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(This is a rendering of Eruch's talk)
[Style of this "transcription" is précis, rather than literal.] [This tape is defective. There is some left-over music in the background, but Eruch is mostly speaking and you can hear his speaking over the music. Apparently as it starts, Eruch has said that there was a story his mother used to tell him, and it involved some inanimate statue or something having come to life, and he asks the other Indians present if there could be any substance to it. The tape is going out of speed so it's the voice of Eruch to start the tape even though it doesn't sound much like him.] [One story of an inanimate statue coming to life is about the child whose mother tells him to take a meal to the statue of Krishna, and the child thinks the purpose of taking the meal to Krishna (Vithoba if I remember the story correctly) is actually to feed the statue. The child implores the statue to take the food, which it eventually does. The mother wants to beat the child for stealing the food, but they go back the next night, the whole family, and the statue again takes the food, thus testifying to the love the child has for God.] The story doesn't in any way appear to be a continuation of "tape elf001a" though from the date it is apparently on the same day. Eruch: "My mother had that habit to incite love for the lord in any way, so she wasn't limited to telling objective stories, and I still have the habit of embellishing stories to increase love for the Lord."
President Jagannath story: After Sai Baba dropped his body in 1918, and Upasni Maharaj had been under the grace and nazar of Sai Baba, Upasni thought of going to Kashi for a Shradh in the memory of Sai Baba. Shradh or Shradha is an annual ceremony, a memorial to a departed one. [Merwanji, our Meher Baba, was with Upasni at the time. There is some disagreement about the word Eruch uses, because he isn't a Hindu, and it's a Hindu ceremony, so the Hindus in the hall at the time set him straight about how to speak about it.] It was not in 1919, but 1920 or 1921, "I forget the year. This story was told to me by Gustadji. Maharaj went with some of his followers and stopped under the Kashi railroad bridge. Maharaj said they would perform the Shradha of Sai Baba. You have to cook food and offer food after invoking the grace of the lord. [There is something about how one should feed Brahmins on that day, so that the food may reach the spirit of the departed one.] Upasni himself being a Brahmin, this was suitable as a ceremony, but there should be no non-Brahmins around, because they were really caste-sensitive. When the Brahmins came to the site, they were much annoyed that persons other than Brahmins appeared to be there working on preparing the food. Some Brahmins put a question to Upasni Maharaj about who that person over there (meaning Merwan) was. He wasn't dressed like a Brahmin. They asked his name.
Upasni Maharaj responded that Merwan's name was "Jagannath", which means lord of the universe. [All get a good laugh out of it. The story is in LM, page 220-221.] Eruch's mother's story takes place in Northeast India, and there is a temple there dedicated to the Lord of the Universe, and in that temple there is a statue of Lord Jagannath. Every year there is a huge gathering, and they take the idol around the town. After all, the statue is the statue of the lord of the universe. Entry to the temple is restricted, and low caste people are not allowed to enter.
One devotee of Jagannath was a carpenter, Sudra, of too low a caste to get into the inner sanctum of the temple. His devotion reached such a height that he couldn't go on without getting into the inner sanctum to worship. Some Brahmin told him he could no longer go into the inner sanctum because his presence had defiled the purity of the inner sanctum. Even they didn't want him to be outside the door, and he was thrown out of the main gate, and though he strained his neck, he couldn't see the lord's statue. All he had seen, all he could worship was the feet of the lord, but being a carpenter he carved the feet and legs of the lord in his hut, and he used to worship the legs and feet. Gradually the legs of the idol in the temple started to wither, waist-downward. Termites?
They came to know about the carpenter who was talking to the statue in endearing terms, and they thought it was a woman, and they got all rumors started that some woman was with the carpenter, and eventually the news of the statue's deterioration reached the king. What was the cause? So lots of messing about, trying to find out, and finally they concluded that the carpenter was the cause of it all, and they came to find out that his devotion gave life to the legs he had created and caused the other legs to wither.The carpenter said he was innocent, and they made him the priest over there. That's the story.
[Eruch tells the story of Satya Mang's coming to visit Baba. This is told many places. Gustadji told this story to Eruch and Gustadji was the store-keeper in those years, so he has a slightly different slant, though not significantly.] Satya Mang was so adept that he could climb a smooth wall, face-downwards and feet upward. He made an entry into some house and as soon as he entered he saw Baba staring at him, and he fell at Baba's feet and ran away, and came to Baba the next day to confess.
The sequel: Baba went to Iran, taking His mandali with Him, but Boman Shah's family were there in Meherabad -- himself, wife and two daughters. Baba entrusted a stock of grain and other things to keep them safe and fed. Satya Mang would come, every now and then, and take some food from them, from the store that Baba had provided for him and them. But, on one occasion, when asked where Boman Shah was, the wife said that he had gone into the village to beg for food. This set badly with Satya Mang. "I take this food away, so he has to go out and beg?" He went out and begged, and begged for them thereafter. That's how he and the family were sustained, until Baba returned.
[An Indian asks a question about when Baba was really born, and on what day? Rather than directly attack the question of astrology that probably prompts this question, Eruch tells that there used to be chaos about the date of Baba's birthday, because there are so many calendar systems in use, and there is a Zoroastrian anniversary based on their lunar calendar. Baba, in the 1940s, set that it should be 5 AM on the 25th February. Baba fixed this date for posterity, and entertained no deviations linked to the issue of the various calendars.] — [Same Indian asks about visit to Peshawar, and Duzdab in 1929. Difficulties with the English authorities are mentioned...]
In later years, Eruch says, being Him that He is, He does His work through us, and His work is to shred our egos, and time and again he would work in this dimension on the mandali. A simple example would be that Baba would ask someone what the time was. That person might say, "It's 10 after 12, Baba." A few minutes later, He would ask again, and maybe someone would give some other time. He might ask again and again, and Eruch often would give an approximate time. Baba would ask for exact time, and eventually Eruch would become exasperated. "Because of His compassion, he would allow us to live with him, in spite of our faults. There is nothing new about this, in any era of His working. [He used to do it all the time.] Of course, we tried to carry out the orders all the time, but we have no guts to say that we did it. He got it done through us."
There is a story about Krishna Nair in print somewhere. [These people know Krishna who is retired from the docks, and lives in Bombay.] "To be with Baba in the night, it is my experience that He keeps watch over us, we do not keep watch over Him." [All laugh.] "It is good that He keeps watch, because it is so tedious to be the watchman, and He will scold us for not doing it right. Our yoga was to do it as well as we could, but He would come to our rescue from time to time to keep us alert and keep us from dying a living death. We have seen many people who tried to do it, but for whatever reason we are still here, in spite of the fact that they did it better than we did it.
"One night, the mosquitos were eating Krishna Nair, and he was quite miserable as he kept watch. Baba told Krishna to do something the next morning -- to get a tonga and take Him to see a saintly yogi [one of many] who had been standing on one foot for years. Krishna did it, but Krishna was so sour [in the aftermath of the preceding night watch] that it was difficult for him. Baba sent Krishna back the next day to the yogi with a message, but when he arrived he discovered that the yogi had dropped his body that very day after Baba's visit. The followers had just returned from the funeral, and told Krishna that the yogi said that he had met the lord of the universe and 'my purpose is finished,' and he dropped. That reminded Krishna that Baba was what He is."
Extended discussion of the children in a city who worship Baba in bizarre ways, as sent in by Madhukar B. Khandale. Eruch cautions that it would be better not to be bizarre. The mandali have discouraged bizarre, showy ways of worshipping Baba. Villagers feel that the Baba people are casting spells on these children.
This concludes the rendering of this tape.
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[00:00:00] Blood testing story that my mother had told me hands of Jerry being I believe in your heart that interest is is still famous over there. But how is love good?
[00:00:31] My book life into something which is unanimously to do what is there any substance in it or my mother just kills stole the story read the words themselves because my mother had that habit, you know to just inside my love my love for the Lord but anything and I'm continuing to do that or embellish something like this place.
[00:01:08] Number two beautiful story. I love you very much. I still remember I tell them tell people sometimes about how love should be even if you are driven out uses in the temple. Yes, Baba shouldn't do that Baba's with the deficit. Oh, yes, but what are the time of Wrath Jana? What is this story? Your mother used to tell you can't have a deliberately of the succeeding from good news. We want the story about it's a very telling story would like to hear. Yes. Yes.
[00:02:02] My studies and the back side before you all right present Juggernaut the story. I'll come back to the story of your waist. What present Juggernaut stone is just a simple one that you reminded me, you know after Sai Baba dropped his body in 1918 and opacity Miraj, of course.
[00:02:27] It was under the guidance and mercy and Grace of Sai Baba. We all know that.
[00:02:37] And then pass the Maharaj thought of going to Kashi.
[00:02:48] For this Rod of whoop ass tomorrow why he did it? He don't know but the story comes it's a beautiful story to at that time. Everyone was with marijuana smell 1G as is known at that time. He was known as mirror 1 G so, you know what shrugs sad, huh? What is a person who has died the close one. So it is said that in memory of the person who departed Souls you just offered something so that in his memory to the Lord invoking blessings of God, we call it random. That's what is shot shot. Please tell her
[00:03:49] It's ceremony once every year for the Department. Yes of The Departed one. So it was not it was not in 1919 that Mara's when their bus was 19 20 21. I forget the year just before when my when she was with him. So naturally this is the story told to me but we studied were so Maharaj went with some of his followers me r1g was also with him and they went and stopped under the bridge. If you all know that Cassie Bridges they be great. So they are no other place so they went and Mara said that now we will perform the sraddha of Sai Baba. It's holy place is a place of pilgrimage and you know revolving around the first image where all the rites rituals and ceremonies and this and that today we will
[00:04:48] Thing about this this morning about us.
[00:04:51] So naturally they wanted in shoddy you have to cook food and you to offer food that is one of the most important thing with after invoking the grace of the Lord and all the things. I don't know and I don't I know nothing about the ceremony but what is happening is that they are preparing for a big priest and all brahmins are to be invited. It is said that through the Bram and satisfaction that that satisfaction reaches the Departed ones this something is good. I think something of that sort. So naturally the brahmins were invited.
[00:05:34] King rotational sent some days to three days prior to the real shroud the ceremony the anniversary of supposed to sign bother so they were all they went from one place to another inviting the primaries. Please come there. That is there's a feast day please join in the shod of the great one.
[00:05:56] So they are accepted the thing but when they heard all these things at some preparations are going on so they came to the site to see what's happening and to their amazement. What happened was that all of them were not brahmins there who are working there and preparing for the feast and this traditional amongst to Diamond World in India that they do not eat from the hands of anybody else except from the brambles.
[00:06:23] And seeing that one gene his usual dress of white shirt and white trousers and all that. He couldn't be abandoned in there was no Authority or engine. That's all so naturally some camels put a question to pass tomorrow judge who was in his as usual the sack cloth and all that. They knew that he is a Brahmin. They didn't know who possess a mirage is or at the time who signed the way they are vaguely some male heard about Sai Baba. He was not that well known all over the country at that time. Now, you have the airports and your the bus running and person that in the time nobody cared less. So he people are those diamonds come in a lot and says there is a Shard going to take place. Yes. Yes. Y'all are invited Maura says with all humility and the please do come on Sir the next day that so what happened was that they looked at Maryland James is but
[00:07:22] He's also working. What's his name?
[00:07:29] So they're Mara said he his name is Jurgen Jurgen. Not the lord of the that's how I remembered it modern. Jagannatha Puri and of brahmins felt satisfied with that.
[00:07:56] Watching variable systems
[00:08:00] It was no it was good of you to have brought one soul back from the other hand. It is his training or that he was on drugs or real good. So that's how jagannatha.
[00:08:28] This story of Juggernaut that my mother told me was this is a different thing. Now we come back to a place called Fury. This is in fully including the place Miss India, not East and there is a Temple dedicated to the lord of the worlds Universe called jagganath. And in that there is an image the idol of Lord. Jagannatha and every year there is a huge Gathering taking place there thousands upon thousands tens of thousands people come there and did place that I do there in a rock musician Chariot and drawl human beings rather Chariot yoked themselves and roll The Chariot to the seats and all that high defying the lon. I said, he is the Lord of he was the create
[00:09:24] That's how it is.
[00:09:27] And people have faith in the jaghana. They go to the temple and all that but the entry is restricted. It's only meant for those who are permitted to be there. But the ones who are of low Caster in terms of they are not allowed this is restricted entry inside the temple the sanctum sanctorum, that's how but what had happened was that there was one devotee of jagannath who was a carpenter. His name was Jay think so to cut the story short. He he was a devotee of Juggernaut also who isn't everybody in his own way calling him out to different names, but everybody is in one way or the other is a devotee devotee of the Lord. So he because he lived there. Naturally. He is devotion was directed towards economic so he is there.
[00:10:22] 2 and when he was young he got himself mixed up with the whole crowd community of the brahmans and all that and he would come and worship the Lord there and his devotion reach that height. They'll he couldn't do without being near there in the sanctum sanctorum one day when the years Roll by pass by one of the brahmans point edema audiences. Who are you? I'm a devotee of jagannatha. What's your caste? He said that sugar is Locust is how dare you come here. You're defile the sentencing to I why are you here? You must not be here get out from here, and he was driven out of the place since you have defined the place.
[00:11:12] What about the sanctity of the place? We have to undergo a lot of Ceremonies in order to again purify the whole thing because of your presence. So for fellow says I'm so sorry. I won't come again and he'll it is tear the tears in his eyes and how he stood outside the door and there of course the brahmins the priest forgot about it and all that and they're all of a sudden again. They spotted him there because all most of them had left and he still there lost in thoughts of the law there he was but the Scruff of his neck he is thrown out of the whole premise is inside out of the gates main gate, so he would stand there and worship the Lord's message. He was a devotee of jagannatha and then he would grain his snake and try to strike a big rims of the Lord and couldn't get it and all that so he caught it thought all that he needed was he was enamored of the feet of the Lord he didn't care for the
[00:12:12] For his body or anything all that he worshipped with the feet of him. So what he did was the being a carpenter he found out the legs of jagannatha and put it in his Hut and they actually is prohibited from coming here. So he would go to work and again come back and beat the legs and put flowers on them, whatever he could afford and press his fee and all that stuff. He has if he is their life.
[00:12:44] It went on for something hot went on for some time. And while he is doing this and being prohibited them from entering the temple and all that gradually jagganath itself as it is considered to be effective governance leg, you know the idol that is there. They started with three ways downwards and one day it was so more disabled that the priests were amazed as washed have what happened in some termites have gone there or what is happening who's eating the but League got withered and nobody knew and hear what's happening is the Juggernaut is having a
[00:13:27] Adopt with his beloved long in his own hat there and were is there a little rooms there? So from one of the side rooms, there are people who know him as a carpenter. Yeah. Do you know him? He's an ordinary man, but he didn't you him that he is a vascular he is not married he get his nobody did and why what are the sounds coming out of some person with an N word of a girl or something that he is talking in those terms and very endearing terms are used here. So they try to look they're still really quietly is what's happening there and sure enough there is somebody here and he is also there and they are having a love lovey-dovey talk it's and so they started naturally these tongues wag. So they started Crossing rumors the Juggernaut bring some woman over here in the night and has a talk there and he have seen him doing something with her and all that.
[00:14:27] Something in the meantime there what happened? The pieces are horrified and the News reaches to the king who was ruling over there at the time and what he found was.
[00:14:40] What he found was that this is truth what they're saying is so what is the cause of it? And he gave orders to find out what's the cause of it was should it happen something has taken place.
[00:14:57] Nobody knew they can't do anything. So the king ordered that his Scouts be sent all over the places here in the capital and find out the cause I think so too and to put together they found they would see that he is filling with some of the legs that are there and these legs there of jagannatha withering so what is this and he was the one who was thrown out of the temple. They knew that also they put two and two together and reported to the king that maybe this fellow is he is he is the cause of it all so they broke open the thing and saw and he was at the time he was serving the lord he was bathing the legs and they were palpable his love his devotion was so great that he made not only the legs bigger than but his devotion gave like to the legs here and he would be serving them and massaging the legs and
[00:15:56] His best as a devotee as a slave of the Lord he was being it that's how he was found out and then they had to ask pardon of him and beseech him to restore hisses. I know nothing of it and I am innocent. I have not done anything of it. I have I have been driven out. I was culprit because I went there but I didn't know I didn't do anything. So then they made him the peace order. That's the story.
[00:16:40] Whatever it is. I don't know anything about the interrogation but he blurted out that he is such a man was much wanted one. He had committed a lot of murders and thefts and all that. He was a dread of the whole place area here. You see ends and Bible says what we need to do. Why do you do it like that? Do you realize what the sanskaras that you are accumulating and all that? What about your family then what will happen to your family and all that must have taken place. So here Bob extracted a promise from him not to do it. I had not heard one year to year one month or two men now this nothing to do it, but then he said but Baba then if I stop
[00:17:24] Robbing or because then there would be no income. How will how is my family lil Sis is all. Yeah. That's what you say is right. We are practical. So do one thing we have our stores over here every week you come and take whatever is needed of rice, Dal and oil and soap and whatever is needed you take from the stores and storekeeper was the study of the time and Baba called the study to him and says here is a man he will come every week which is requirements. And when whatever he requires see that from the stores is given to him without any question. Will that be? All right? This is just so the neela he was deriving this benefit. You see from Baba and for quite a number of months you see he abstain from any theft and robbery or any evil acts you see
[00:18:20] One day as you said you got a thought that well I come every time and most problems are best forgotten and I have given a promise and all that salty but actually is a man who things that I need some ready cash and this and that and I must go in so he he went out looking for a nice place where he can of course lays hands and help some booty.
[00:18:45] So as you said that while he tried his best you see without disturbing the people and all that thinking that he will be very successful in this and he's he was an Adept and it is said that he was so adapt in his heart that he would climb a straight wall.
[00:19:01] Yeah, he had those such vertical grip with his toes and with his finger that he would climb he demonstrated their the for Baba and the money and not the way that he would climb but his face downwards and leg upward. That's how he would scale the balls. Yeah, you're famous for such things and yours much wanted by the police at the time of the British Raj and all that. So yes, so what happened? Is that thinking that way some man has told me he is a good same key person. He did good for me and all that, but I need to do good for myself. And also he went again for that and he
[00:19:52] Made an entry into the house and to his utter surprise through the door. He sees as soon as he made his entry is his baba standing like as if he leaves it was Baba's own house. It was and he was so horrified.
[00:20:08] And he fell at his feet and ran away and then he came the next day to Baba and describe the whole thing and says.
[00:20:16] Forgive me forever now and from that day, he didn't do anything and he continued to draw his this but most probably you may not have heard the sequel to it. What had happened. Is he the change that was brought in him. So what happened is this but of course this continued and barber forgave him and all that now Bob is going for the first time to Iran and he took his monthly to Iran but there was a family woman says family lived. Where now is the old dharamsala
[00:20:52] Does that family Ronnie by name dementia his wife and two daughters and one son were they living there? So Barbara and crested the charge to them and says here is the little money that somehow or other you manage here the stock of grain and all that you manage here. Now, we are all leaving and I will be coming within about two months time. In the meantime, the silver you can pull on and what happened is that somehow or other they manage the whole family manage their such a man would come every now and then as usual and you take some things from them because they had the Stop store and to is that a surprise he found
[00:21:39] That heat inquired as to where there is bomb and shh. So the committee said that he has gone to the village now to beg because Bob has returned was delayed by law. It was a long journey long tour. He didn't return the appointed time on and so forth. So naturally Baumann. Shh was Baba's man's what to do Baba can beg beg in The Villages. He would go out there get all this and he says he goes out to bed and I am the one who takes away these things from here because they had kept the store for him. Whatever was necessary. So he felt so much that he waited there. He stole Baumann G not to go out to beg now and on his behalf and Family's behalf. He went out and begged and still Baba returned he would beg for them and bring all the things. Yeah, and that's how he and the family was sustained. He'll bother
[00:22:38] And bubble is deeply touched and very happy and pleased with it.
[00:22:51] Confronted with the small but dedicated information, you know in summer the city said that Bob has barnak 5af God Panic was sick and bye-bye little bit in the course of some Publications basket has you know, he has written is 5:15. And her mother of Nida has eaten his fight fun because this may be a silly question, but writing the chronicle after all you are there now, we had an opportunity to replace together with him because I was not born at the time himself. So what happened is that in the early years Bob has birthday was celebrated at on different dates according to his arrest in calendar.
[00:23:41] You know verision calendar is a lunar calendar initially the day it won't be on a fixed calendar date English like the English calendar of which date but the dates with the fur, sometimes it will tend to have very sometimes you'll be twenty second of every sometimes tell the feel like that it will differ. So when Bob has people whose followers because the numbers grew larger and spread out wider. So there was chaos. He had to write in letters and informing them that Bella's birthday will this year falls on such and such a date because they never follow the Christian calendar. They were Hindus and more modern Christians and all that. It was chaotic. So even now till today there are no Russians who are dear to the Russian calendar and the although Bob I didn't tell you to stop them from doing it. So what happened is the situation came about I think in the year 40 or so and 1940s in the 40s.
[00:24:41] Till then but there was an uncertain date with him. So what happened at that time the Baba fixed it and says my birthday date at the time of 25th of February 5 a.m. I was born so it is five o'clock and then he ordered the man lie here in his presence. We would be celebrating his birthday on 25th of February and our celebration was just exactly at the stroke of spy even today. We do it last February. We did you just wait for the whatever the local time is at five o'clock all that he told us to do is to just heal him seven times outside arm a baba Ki J 7 times we say that and that's a celebration.
[00:25:25] It is five o'clock on 25th February and and give the second sentence is very high or fly or climb to 27 February 5 o'clock. Yes fix the day. Sometimes we seven times we do that. Yeah, that's all then they greet each other by big baba in one another like that and say happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you of the greeted that they did ba ba ba ba baba each one's that's how you wanted us to do. Once again, we are reborn party. Once again here we take the bots in him. Yeah. One more thing was a contingency and noted that person your second visit to Click Share June September 20th 1940 night while the part was returning to India Indian Land Rotator lose their beliefs about who is the border between turkey and India Bob has Perfect Skin stability nothing some clearance to tell
[00:26:24] Take you quite a from the Indian Japanese history in that condition seat since the he has asked the two of his mandolin people disastrous. What on Earth happened things are comparing Baba to go and approach that Indian different eating. Well now they repeatedly their Pros but they were turned off. So on the fourth time and they were asked to go out and steal approach because the train is supposed to start a next day happens to be sending forth enough to have some so they said they express their reliability Bubba. We went through many times in two companies. So let's be very much annoyed. I will get my own money disappear. They are doing at that time from local Merchants appear, you know little later from that governor of work. Yeah, that's one recommending to the kingdom Embassy but there was no except that there was no instant silly. We're seeing that either people don't have decreased.
[00:27:14] The per unit containing Baba now our Baba says something it is done undertakes go Vince and it'll go but it's a fact that we both felt they were did you know the previous that what happens is that daily?
[00:27:31] It is even later Years also after all I'm only a human beings their men. They have got their minds and there were the feeling so his ways are such he is man amongst men also and he is God man. But what happens is that being that he is he works through he does his work through us and his work through us is so shaving our egos shaving that is the ego so time and again, he would do that simple thing is what's the time now, he'll ask us so we'll look this tent is ten past twelve hour.
[00:28:18] So, how was the time? Is it 10 past 12:00 somebody so no bubbles about ne9 pastels. Why are you sitting posture? So after five minutes again, you'll supports the time he'll asking again and again, I just hear you approximate time. No, but exact and no sooner said the time they will again Ask for water the time is it so it would exasperate us because we are human minds are there so we would again say but I just know told you about that so likewise what happens is they that but Baba we have gone there. They said no, so what we do now will goes will take some other course records and all that Circle. So it is there is a possible like that because we knew he lived the life with him and in spite of us he is compassion.
[00:29:07] Here's our mother and father in one as you say spite of us. He allowed us to live with him and all that hurt, but he would exasperate us. There's no doubt that there's nothing new about it. So don't expect the monthly that well, they will carry out the orders implicitly immediately and all that. Of course, we did that we can't deny that he did it but they have no guts to say that we did it. He got some done to us before thank you, maybe continue to do repeatable and incidents you have also there along with vawa along with some other man. Yeah. There is a story I think printed some is about Krishna, you know here so yeah, it is a question of who is a night Watchman. There he is.
[00:30:07] Was from Malabar Krishnan Iyer, you must have met him he is still alive and well in the dark, we work in the dark. He's retired stays there but he stays in stays there in Bombay. So yeah, there is a story like that. So what had happened was that?
[00:30:28] I think in the late 50s 40s 40s were a must-have because then I in 50s Krishna was not with us. So what had happened was just this that Baba told him that in the night he feels is he exasperation is all the time day and night to be with him it is he who keeps watch over us not we are keeping water that is of my my experience being a night Watchman myself. So it is good that he keeps water. Otherwise it is so tedious not to move about and not to make any noise and not to do this. You can't even sneeze. You can't even talk. You can't even clear your throat. Otherwise you just sit up on the Bell. So have you no concern for me don't you want me to rest? Is this the way that you look after me and all the circle and by the I couldn't help it. Bubba was getting choked. This is control. So our yoga was just to keep an eye towards that is the greatest yoga that he here.
[00:31:28] Daughters uses whatever it is, but it was so real so much of a relief when he would ask for his glass of water or there is because these are sentences. Yeah, so we were waiting here anybody wake up Andrea, so but every 15-20 minutes half an hour she came to our rescue. So what's the time now? How is it what is the noise that is their decision that anything any excuse. You just keep us alert. So that's how nobody can dare say that he did the ninth ward for he was the one who did it or not. Only him who makes made us go through it all. Otherwise, we have seen many people who would want to do it and did it but they did it for a short time. They were far better than most of us who wanted to do it who wanted to serve the boys. Where are they now? No more. Why are we here? So it makes us believe makes us
[00:32:23] You convinced that was only hateful in spite of us just as the yes, that's how it is made us do these things. So that Krishna was exasperated one night and all that with all the mosquitoes and other modulations and all their answers what sort of a God he is and he calls him he says that he is that and how God is merciful and the you know, he didn't a house book that while the world slept all that all that is this area is always all that is so they don't like that. So next morning Bible says David tells him with every money you'll have to go and get your tongue and we'll go we have to go somewhere. So then
[00:33:11] Something he told him to take breakfast or something. I forget now and T if t or something, but it was so sad at that time. You see some girl was called and this hat and they went and there they came to this person who was a yoga video views and he was standing on his one leg there and his leg is swollen like an elephant's leg and all that with one hand like that and just their postures. Are there that hot yoga's are there and all that so there's of course Baba changes nothing.
[00:33:45] And his work was all the returned and then again Baba sent him back. The story is long-drawn story, but the gestures that Bob again sent him back with him certain message.
[00:34:00] And to his surprise what he finds he is no more there the next day. This is what happened. He has come over here. Where is he? So they were they are out. I think that just returned after the funeral or something like that and they found that he had died. And what happened was this is what happened? Why how did he die be very a yesterday. So he said that I have met him now, there is no more I have I have met the Lord or something. Yeah. I met the Lord and now my focus is and now I'm not no more purposeful even extend my life. I was waiting for him. He came my purposes and job, that's all.
[00:34:42] Then that reminder trishna that what he says is so true but he is although he may be like this. Is he provoking and all sorts of iron this discussion, but he is what he is here.
[00:35:02] Yes small. So he drew our attention to the small things on our minds are always like that now mind mind gets boggled you see if he were to speak and speak highly about himself. So mind has to be awakened to these small things on his mind cannot accept addicting game this one by one. They're all keeping him. Nothing any of these already hard, but you must allow him to speak because these are all books.
[00:36:01] You're a good English reader. Yep. You remember? Yeah, I know. Yeah loudly. This is a rendering from I don't know you all may have heard of the Kundalini this one. Yeah still on post post office. So what happened? This is his experience his life in a prison prom ashram at Center. This is a free translation of a report in Marathi by MD and Dallas.
[00:36:36] This Baba Center was opened at Sherry Morrow trow. Nathan g-got crazed residence on 19th, April 1984 within a year of the center's opening it developed rapidly and many people had different experiences about Baba prayers and Artie were performed regularly, once sree bhadra chapati age 35 from Kigali Village about 20 miles from here came as a guest to the center when he saw beloved Baba's photo unseeing Baba's picture yet actual - on a baba and Baba indicated to him to give up smoking. He had once threw away the bundle of BT's and matches while still weeping. He began telling people that Baba is the Living God he gave me darshan etcetera Etc. And in this way different people of the village had different types of experiences.
[00:37:32] But the important details I am reporting are given below and all expect guidance from you regarding this matter.
[00:37:41] Unique premise from at Somali Somali The Village The Village because it's a loli you know, what?
[00:37:51] The real beginning of this premise from started on 18th of March 1985 on that day a boy named Deanna schwa Dole age 20 started weeping loudly in the midst of Art.
[00:38:05] After some time, he became come and other boys also started weeping during RT and crying out baba, baba.
[00:38:13] There were seven older boys.
[00:38:16] In time the emotional weeping and crying of these boys has lessened and some of them have sold it and do not weep now as they did in the beginning.
[00:38:25] On Friday, June 7th 1985 at 6:30 p.m. The wife of Shri got craze started weeping loudly for the first time in the midst of our tea.
[00:38:35] At that time one older boy and three younger boys also started weaving lab day by day. The number of boys who wept increased 30 to 35 to this day these younger boys are of the age groups between 7 and 14. He's younger boys were not coming for our tea before this and they had not read anything about Baba. They had casually heard Bob is RT and Baba Baba John's and tape recorders at some places in the village and the boys began to sing hymns and these Baba bhajans and gradually they started coming for RT at SRI got cooties residence restoring our teeth at all this started.
[00:39:17] In the beginning the boys gazed one pointedly at the photo of Baba tears started flowing from their eyes, then they started weeping and crying baba baba. Nothing can describe the boys one pointed attention and their restlessness.
[00:39:33] Some of them kept gazing at Baba's photo for 1 and 2 hours continuously without distraction and then their eyes would become red in some cases the eyes appeared with become larger.
[00:39:46] On some occasions some of them started making gestures with their hands always remaining silent.
[00:39:53] Usually when one boy starts making these gestures the other boys also start gesturing with their hands boys do not stand. Sometimes they start moving about like snakes on their hands and knees and move toward Baba's photo if the photo is on the wall with hand gestures. They asked that it be taken down. He's emotional boys. Then kiss Baba's photo sometimes a boy holding a baba photo
[00:40:19] Where Baba wears a cloth in his head goes crawling like a snake to the other boys and tells them by signs that Baba has an injury under the claw.
[00:40:30] One five or six boys are together putting their hands around each other's necks. They kiss each other their eyes filling with tears, like four or five snakes sleeping in crawling on their bellies and tangling amongst themselves in the same way these boils these boys and Tangle their hands and feet while laying on their bellies and then move forward or backwards together. Sometimes this happens for half an hour people present have to separate the boys by force trying to bring the boys back to normalcy. They sprinkle cold water on them and their eyes and their faces
[00:41:06] After five or six days some boys. Stop crying loudly these boys do not weep now but sit in one place and gaze continuously at Baba's photo hitting the palms of their hands loudly on the ground. Sometimes they put their heads in the ground and then crawl on their bellies towards Baba's photo sometimes with signs of their hands. They call some boys while in the motional trends
[00:41:34] Some boy who in an emotional trance was outside the room and try to bring him inside if the boy outside doesn't respond than one of the boys might crawl out of the room himself after him putting his hands around his neck and to bring this boy crawling into the room sometimes two or three boys go out with him and try to pull the boy inside the room, but none of the boys stand or none speak out on these entangled boys. Come close to Baba's photo each boy tells something to the other by signs while pointing their fingers at Baba's photo these boys remain in this condition from between a half hour to two hours if they're allowed to sit again in the room after some time they revert to their former condition.
[00:42:18] Sometimes the boys become so emotionally intoxicated that becomes a real problem for the people present how to control and pacified this may continue to 1 or 2 a.m. In the night. Sometimes the boys are taken away by force to their houses on the night of June 20th 1985. It became very difficult to control these boys. So Shri chakra prayed to Baba Baba take care of these boys. There was an immediate response to his prayer in that day one boys aged 11 who used to get highly intoxicated each day. As soon as he came to the center and entered an emotional trance now sat in one place with padmasana host and in the state of intoxication became Less in the other hand the state of intoxication became Less in the other boys.
[00:43:08] On the 20th of June 1985. I witnessed all these things when I went to sadly on request of Sri graph got clay at 12 midnight. I asked all the people present there to say the following prayer to Baba o baba, please don't let these boys get intoxicated as the people here have to continuously look after them and get harest because of the boys Behavior result of this prayer was evident on the 21st of June boy who is sitting in padmasana pose on the previous day became the leading helper he put his hands on those boys were intoxicated in pacifying them finally told by hand signs to send the boys to their homes one by one this way. He said about ten or twelve boys home.
[00:43:56] He's instructing people lifted some of the boys up and carried them home this episode occurred on the 21st of June in the morning, and we return to not floor in the afternoon what changes occurred afterwards. We do not know daily about 10 to 12 younger boys now have such experiences among them. The first oldest boy 25 is prominently among them the following signs a manifest in his voice.
[00:44:25] Imitating Bob is hand gestures the real happiness photo. They joined the hands and fingers.
[00:44:33] They keep silence.
[00:44:35] They do not stand on their feet and finally come out of their emotional trance puttering Ava Tommy have baba Ki Jai.
[00:44:43] When asked about their experiences, he's boys explained as follows. We see Baba in his physical form and sometimes he calls us to come close. Sometimes he tells us by signs that we should not come new Baba remain silent do not fear on the contrary. We feel happy meeting him. We do not know what else happens boys say if we do not come and weep here that our body and head feels numb and after coming here. Our body is like the mind is happy.
[00:45:17] Some of these boys spend the whole day moving around the center and loiter there when three or four boys come together knock on the door of the center and if the door is not opened they Place their heads on the door of the center and look at Baba's photo from the opening or slit in the door. This goes on all day until midnight every day because of this SRI gauri some other people have to watch over these boys. This has become their sole occupation J bhabha and become Valley discovered of this you please permit on this commenting watch the comment. You see there's no comment. But this is how it is happening is the latest that we are heard. This is July in the first month of June is quite recently.
[00:46:10] And this thing that is double His blessings are there on them and all that.
[00:46:17] Can deny these things but at the same time bubba wants us to be very careful and we should not encourage these boys letters have been sent they wanted guidance and all that. So the detail reply and consents and quoting from past experiences what happened with sons of other families and all that. So bubba wants us not to encourage the kids being such thing, but they should control so feelings are aroused. It's a happy thing, but if they were to control and not express themselves if you do them,
[00:47:02] Much good
[00:47:06] Hesitation with the story of earlier total of elected that's what they say because they must have read the Psalms and Proverbs. So that's why they say that pretty much from now reopened.
[00:47:23] But Baba always would want us to contain ourselves this effervescence that takes place is no good.
[00:47:36] But how to tell these youngsters they are in they don't know anything about Bob has life or interest but who to stop who's there? Who are we to stop them from being that but gradualism experience but what has happened has become a problem to the people. He said I'm an intelligent. Yeah. And of course the thing is that in other letters that you received from different persons. So the villages some other field that will they are casting spells on a voyage that is the reaction that will achieve and all that. They come as what have you done to our children? Why are you doing we don't do anything. You don't want them to?