Meher Baba Manifesting

Eruch Jessawalla - The Law of the Land

 

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That we have defiled it. We don't want to hurt your religious feelings. You may have your religious. They although they considered zoroastrians as coffers, you know heathens but whatever it is, they respected the feeling as if you better take away this because we are we are going to demolish all these things.

So the zoroastrians first of all didn't believe that then eventually second thought is all right, so they started preparing and it's not an easy thing to get fire across you see you can't keep the fire a glow all the time and there's an asset needed quick Transportation, you know that and you're so the community heads contacted the community heads here India in Bombay.

Can you say something should be done? Do you must get the Pod here? We can't let go like that. I cannot allow you to defile. What is to be done. Well, we can get it in a plane. It doesn't take much the journey is very short.

How come how is it a fire to be brought in plane means what you know what to do. So the best thing is to what we call call upon the people who are responsible for the flights, whether they will give us a charter flight or not. So the head of the communities, of course, there is no question of money. No question of shortage of money. The restaurants are rich people.

Did they approach the authorities in India?

It's impossible. It's against the law. How can we unless it is well protected. This is what do you want us to do if it is well protected, you know what it is what happens it goes out to follow so you can't have well put well protected fire, even though he want the fire to be a globe and you can't protect it. So what is to be done?

First of many Minds many hearts were put into action eventually with great effort, you know, formerly the soul Air India and everything revolves around is rest Ian tata's it was not as and and something something to do with the original fire of zoroaster. You see what is to be done now burning question avoiding question. You can't neglect it like that can't do anything.

Can't take it for granted or anything else or the law of the land is like that and danger to life danger to the planes. You can't set a precedent a precedent or whatever you pronounce it. So now the set together and those who were in charge in this is

Well what all right provided you protect it properly so that no sparks fly off renewed us prepare such as steel own or something like that. And also they said that will do we realize we are we are people be done with intelligent people. We know what we are asking and we realize the risk because we will be traveling also in it carrying the fire back home to India. So this is all right. Now what happened? This was settled that they are going to chart they permitted a chartered flight.

Right across the question came because this being is arrested issue. The pilot must be a zoroastrian because the Russians don't smoke. They don't defile the fire by putting it in the mouth and blowing the pie like after find a pilot who doesn't smoke is a rarity is if you can find an angel on Earth.

You can find the positive. He doesn't smoke. So it is all these requests and then they said that well we request our with this Charter flight. We should have we shouldn't have any stewardesses receive who are young or if they should not be in the period at the time because it's defiling the fire. You know monthly period of this is this has the effect of a place of the authorities who have madrasas at the time. I better go to public relations for such things. We know that we will give you a chartered flight that will do

Do but you go to public relations, they'll arrange for you to the pilot and others and that all the new better talk to them.

I know this being is all dressed up in the traditional dresses and all that. You know, they came to the boss of nausea Anza and he didn't want the headache and he didn't want to get into this. So he says you please go to mr. Allens. Are you see you go and talk to him. So now the Story begins not happened about the magnet so they come to answers office.

And of course sons are seeing the priests in his office. He surprised he has come to know about all these they are they talked among themselves. So he gets up from his welcomes them and makes them sit down all the rain in his office. There are big portraits above his desk at the back of his seat and everywhere you find his pictures are there at the time they were many pictures their photos.

Today are all seated over there and they put the what you call the request you see and says well what we can do this and you can do that and we can even screen the women, you know from monthly course this is that all the but how can we get a pilot without smoking this is no you must do something and you must get it. Okay, then he tried to tell X people and try to find out there. Is there a pilot there in the Air India get him from?

Different flights in this and that and schedule that flight is make him the pilot but that scheduled flight all these things poor fellow had to do he did he'd have to do that. So they are always in they were assured about it. Now the thanked him profusely for listening to them and whatever he helped we are for the help and all that. Um, no, she won the little one, you know, he feels very little before these people. You know, they are very rare.

Were people so he gets up and says yeah one person kept sitting there.

And the rest of them left.

And then I know she won't answer is yes any other help that I can just know? I want to want you to hear my story. Yes, so he said sit down this is this is my father's picture this my brother. No, are you a follower of meher Baba? This is yes in my humble way. I follow him whatever he wants us to do we do it.

This is the office of the one who follows gababa. So we are very happy the way that you treated us and all that and in return. I may give you a story which I have not told anybody yet.

What is that answer is very anxious to have such these stories, you know, they're like hot cakes for him. So yeah, no, but he promised that he would give it out in the Press. So now the story he's a very revered person. But before he became to this position the status of priest, he was an ordinary person formerly yesterday's youngsters like Ed was before he became priests and all

See you he had his own friends and Company and all that in Bombay. So he says many years ago many many years ago.

One day I was walking by on the fort in the 40 area on, you know, the footpaths we call them what you will call curbs sidewalks.

And the front door is open and a man himself sitting quietly, you know, he has turned and put his feet out there and he sitting like this all by himself because the driver and others who may be they may have gone for some some work, you know, Sababa is it is natural. We know sitting alone on the sitting alone. Nobody nobody is with him that day.

He does not know who he is. He does not know even his faith or nationality of so, he looks at him and he passes by bring passes by and goes a few steps ahead. He cannot resist the temptation to come and see him again.

He comes as if he has forgotten something in a hurry and just looks then passes by size.

So and again, he goes now in his Direction while he's going you cannot resist the temptation something happens mixed in standard and seeing that there's nobody around so he puts his head on his feet and then goes away. This is what he tells Nashua.

This is but how you didn't know meher Baba. So how come that you're telling me about it all why should you tell me a person? Who is he he was same are Bob of yours. He has such magnetic power that I wouldn't bow down to anybody except sarastro himself. Why did he make me do that? But cells? Yeah. He was like him see this is what I'm saying. Is that what you did not know him at the time now,

This is no I didn't know then what happened then how did you come to nurses? Listen? I haven't completed my story. So I didn't know I had to touch my for it to his feet why I did it. I don't know but I passed since I then went ahead past coincidentally. I came across a group of four of my friends coming in the opposite direction from part of it. So I must have gone about three furlongs like that and accosted them or they came and accosted me.

Where are you going in? All that happened? And while they while conversing or the first stop and talk. This is well something very funny happened this morning is what happened. They were also reston's so said you don't there is a certain person that was there in the car and I couldn't resist the temptation of seeing him and I twice went back and forth and then at the end of it I couldn't resist it.

Vision of putting my head on the feet of the person who could that person be really what made you do that? Why did you do that? Because blasphemy according to sarastro said I didn't want to do it but nobody told me but I was compelled to do it why I did it. I don't know who could that person be this is is he still there? Come on, let's see come so here again takes a turn and accompanies his group company, so they go there.

And this pass by and the Sea so two of them knew they were from Pune. Oh is that fellow tour t-shirt seller son? That is where one where Bubba that is people call him and bhava. Mahabhava. He's the one male Bubba because there was a lot of campaign against marry. Bobby said the time in the early years old. Oh newspapers were full with all sorts of rumors about him.

This is all but I put my head down. I don't know why you're a fool. You don't get done it. But today I realize and having put my foot down and coming to this office brings back those memories, which I haven't told anybody. It was kept as a secret in my heart, but your attitude of helping to me helping me out in this dilemma of ours are bringing the sacred fire. You are so good to us home.

So I thought that was seeing him. Once again. I feel like opening my heart to you and tell you the story. That's all.

It's very recent three years ago. So yeah, he does have a magnet in his pocket. You did all those the story but then Babu came to live in there doing for some time.

And when he came he didn't he had the instructions for everyone that nobody should see him and he wanted his privacy so he could do his own work and everything but when Bob arrived from the train when he came out of the train and went into the transport naturally the public saw him and so kitchen seems that that City soon as he would walk out of the Train everybody.

Be looking at him who is this man? Who uses and then when he was staying wherever in Raj pore road going from one place to another people would stig's you gaze at him and so gradually crowd started accumulating and people all kinds of people were clamoring for Bob has darker hue.

So then one day amongst the Mind Ali Baba started complaining in the saying think maybe it was saying the kitchen sings his

I said he's you saying I told you that I didn't want all these people here and hear everybody's coming. What is this?

You're not listening to me properly and kitchen sinks it you said it's not my fault. Well whose fault is it? She's in think that it's your fault. It's my fault is why is this and he says it's because this is a part of the Divine magnetism in your personality which attracts people to you.

I told her the story but he's very young girl. When on I was not there on the thirty at night at at the upper hip the other six hit too far and I understand seek see chic chic chic.

We can't bust and there's a matter of every second important but a blood is needed blood is needed and all that so they try to find the blood and all that but it's impossible to find to match the blood at the time and didn't have spare in the hospital. Also, it happens so often so the father, you know,

What he went out then no. No the when I care about first of all, he does not know in search of that. Where can I find it in? What can I do and says then what happened ultimately our Rickshaw comes after that is this date happening? I don't know but I heard it was late in the night and he is he's very frustrated and disappointed in does not know what to do is daughter's life is there and why mother is there in Bangalore and what will she think about it and what?

Going to happen does not know and then in the early in the morning now, he's going back to the hospital and all of a sudden a man comes in a rickshaw and says, you know, I have come to donate blood. Does anybody need any blood over here and across this person only was just entered the hospital. He says yes, but what's your blood blood group? So he says you find out he takes him there and sure enough. It was the same thing. So blood was taken from him.

And so he is very beholding to the Sportsman. He has come on his own accord and who can he be so he is just trying to ask his address the name name and this and that and so forth. So this is he he says that get me a paper piece of paper. I'll write it down key. So he goes inside and here he disappears. He's no more the man disappeared, but he had seen the Rickshaw that was there and the number and the number.

It was there so he says oh my where is the person gone the ricochets gone everything so he goes back you see.

To find out from the Departments and all who is this person who has come and help me in this picture that so that it shoulder cut is stressed. So he says what do you mean?

My ricochets and the garage for past 15 days for repairs. We shall never but you didn't come here to the hospital didn't bring the direction at the hospital today. What are you talking about? Our ricksha is in garage for so many so long you see? No, it's not my Rickshaw some other option. That's the story. I know what it happened is that

He hadn't told his lovers that for some reason or is work. I do not want y'all to approach me to come to me or the sea, even if you were to spot me on the streets or in a town. Turn your face away from me. I forget now. There was a circular 456 but to see ya was it?

There is do you remember that? Nobody knows here? We are now. We don't know anything about it. The circular is the we don't take we don't attach the importance as we are attaching importance to these episodes. Now when when they begin to live at the time when they are here take we are taking all these episodes for granted you don't attach any importance to its because to us these things are not important. Yeah, they are.

Dust gathering on the time you see around him. See you just brush aside. All these things he and his presence is overwhelming. So what I am trying to hint at so this is the situation and he tells us a day prior to 2nd December in on 1st December. This is you know, there's a test match being played cricket match being played in Pune and I would like to see

Vidia this is tomorrow early morning will drive the kupuna. We were in satara and we'll drive to Pune. Yeah.

Second December the day of accident if you remember 56.

So there I go spatially to see whether the car is clean wash the car and all that and brush the seat. Keep it ready for Baba the next morning I had to drive the car.

He then he said look that day. Although we are going for Cindy cricket match. Don't let anybody know that we are going for the mass or anything of the sort. I said, of course we won't tell anybody and moreover. We are going to keep fast for the whole day 24 hours first. Don't tell anybody.

I said yeah, you won't tell anybody. You know what I mean is don't tell anybody in the sense is, you know, do not naturally we are going out to Pune.

So the women will give you water can Baba's water here will be not only having fast, but he won't even drink a sip of water. So don't try to say the know we are on Fast don't give this Earth don't say anything like that so soon. Oh, yeah, that's a good point. You know, I never thought of it, but he thought okay, it's just

If they give any snack or this or the ticket, but we are going to observe overpass.

So we are all on fast without water without anything and now we are this is the morning of second. So Baba is at different Bungalow and I don't have money with me. So I said I'm I took the car from the monthly Bungalow to The Bungalow where Barbara sided so I'm there and always ready. So as usual all the women are

In this court and that thing and this bag and so many things as it is going on the world tour or something. I accept everything and put in a dick.

Never the word that we are on fast, or we are not going to even to have sip of water. We're not going to eat anything nothing of the sort. So now Bob has in high to lose.

So in the meantime before leaving Monday with all those who were to accompany appointed the Baba. We're in the car from Monday Bungalow measured also come so Bob. I told us that what we'll do is we'll take energy with us and drop him there. Yeah, maybe she doesn't know anything about it. He has to be simply dropped their input and while returning will take Vishnu with us who is in Pune. We've been here.

That's how it was. This is yeah. So now I'm getting out of the Bungalow. I haven't come to Bob is going to get Monday's burglar driving the car out of the gate and all I said just a minute before I could get out of the gate so I completely forgot my license. Sometimes we need the license. So I go inside and fetch my license and keep it then I come back again and we drive the car. We are right on the

The road and there we are across the priests Russian priest says nay Jesus. What what fate is you know, it is said that if you were to see the face of a priest in the morning showed that in the house, he just death in the house. He passes that remark you see and we laugh and I will because he is himself a priest and he tells lies

So young, so we had a hearty laugh.

Now we go to Bob's place to collect him hidden inside the car. He's ready there and he's in a hurry to get out. So he sets we are taking all the things and put it in Dickey and all that but I said Bob has come on I see but we I don't have any money with him. Now. I'm come on come on in the meantime Governor has gone there to fetch some money to give to me for gas and other things. No you come on so I drive very slowly and poor girl.

Running breathless. And then I said Baba Governor is running. This is all that stuff. So she comes and she gets hold of me as his conscious you are you blind that I'm running here. Where are you going over there and all this hideous here. So I took the when he said we are out there and we are we are in Pune now and it's good. The whole field is ready with the players and

All that we reach there and what I'm trying to tell you that we are having a good view of the match that is going on Baba is enjoying. We are seated under a tree and over and a car is parked. Nobody seems to have taken notice of us.

That day at about 2:30 to working people walking on the street and on the road at joining the field that the game is being played so they must have spotted the sky above.

And they started coming inside Bob. Ascari's Baba must be here in spite of the orders and

So they came and I turned my head as I accidentally I see these two people I go immediately there. I said don't you know the order this is here, but Baba is full of love and here he has come here and we just have yes, you're not trying to face him or engine. Suddenly just felt happier all this was there in Barber turned his head. He got up. He got up.

And I could see from his face that he was very disturbed got up and says, come on. Let's get inside. He spoiled the whole data.

And we get up in the get up get inside the car and drive out David ends meet. He needs a more intense and then on our way back to be met with the accident but his compassion is so great while we are there brought back to the Bungalow. He is also all battered and shattered, you know, so he sends word through money. I think she came on a cycle. Oh God.

Forget numbers. I was not in my senses. I had passed out soon. But I am hearing this is you know, Barbara sends a message each one she comes until I don't know who was the person is but it's a lady's voice. It's Baba says.

We have if doctor gives you some medicine or water and thing you can take it now now you can bring the fire.

You remember that even in spite of it all?

Look what I'm saying is that there was a Rosa period nobody should see him turn your face away. This is what happens sometimes.

Story of Alice Tanner. This is what he allows. I lost. So yeah, then we took this right none of them myself. Dr. Milliken was there he's killed and bobaloo and honor.

And we picked up Vishnu and the you were there he envisioned was in the accident. We still have really accident then do as an accident Vishnu was the least hard here. He was not not even least didn't you didn't get any her but nehru was thrown out then do was thrown away which they was in the center in the rear seat.

Nearly was killed. Yeah, no internal injuries.

I was told when I got out of my school, I find my hand on the steering and Langley I said to Barbara what happened so he didn't say anything but um with God dang God God is being ruined everything.

What happened? Yeah.

Nothing

This is what happens when knowing fully well that he has told us not to show but love.

Tries to draw the person thing and this happens sometimes sometimes we forget all this.

It happens differently always but sometimes it happens the way it happened.

You trying to keep a deer novel?

Utilize all of you and overseeing was his companions to out period while he was

Very jolly person because he talked a lot in the beginning his talk was no doubt subdued because of his silence, but in his silence he talked more than a regular person. Yeah.

If I were to tell you many stories are there of his suffering in history of a DC source of Truth greatly.

Hundred Bob also suffer

Many years he was in Baba.

Anything would happen. So we started you will be blamed and we study is so now he has to warm it out that feeling the pent-up feelings and all that. You can't just say that I'm suffering too much and all that. He had learned the lessons you see never to speak out overtly, but we can speak out cowardly in our humors in our poetry in storytelling.

You know running you see you speak out and here you'd understand within Finkel in his eye. You're not isn't it? And he'll understand that we are having a dig at his cause I've heard it said baba baba all the time the blame would he was the source of all this misery to us here, although he is the source of all happiness. What is the source of misery too?

So called Misery. I'm just joking with you also, but it is it is like that at the time when we are living with him, we know that we know that he is the very source of bliss. But how can you reach that Source only through happiness and misery all the opposite season. So he is that tune. So gusta Gina one day comes up with this story versus well tell me a story and he was waiting for that time. He got gets the opportunity.

And he tells this story very telling thing since you know, I'm reminded time and again, I'm reminded as to of that story of that episode in my life. Now. This is what is that episode bubble? Take great interest you Keen interest in dust and you'll provoke many things out of our storytelling, you know, so what is it? This is when I was a kid

Kid, I used to have my school bag across my shoulder. The study was not only a good Storyteller. But he was a good actor too. You put he would stage if you the whole story. Yeah, but the study of intelligence in the sense that very refined so he would show us as to how he was dressed at the time a kid.

And having that bag here and how to walk in all day and when you go from his rent an apartment and house it go to school while going to school. He had to take a regular room. You can't go anywhere else the regular thing every day. Yes to go and come back every day en route. He would find stable.

And whenever he saw that stable, he was fascinated. She would stop there and look and I do this one thing that's always intrigued me. This is what is that Intrigue? What is what was it something coming to kill you? This is yeah. There was something very peculiar. There was an old horse.

That is all the time. Then each time. I saw the old horse was there but the rest of the horses were all new Every time. It will begin after a week or two weeks or two months a month. They will be new batch, but the old horse was always there but he's intrigued me as to how come that this old horses there and all the new horses are all the time changing is the young ones and the old horse was old.

Those who are changing. They're all Young Horses.

Then one day I inquired this device is this what happened when I Grew Older? What is this? This is this is a horse-breaking stable.

You know you and carriages wild horses come there and they purchase horses. So now they are so they have to break the horse for the Carriage Drive the carriage for Riders. It's a different thing but to harness them in a carriage is a different thing. So you needed that. I just remember that and then what I used to see when I used to grow he's telling the story to Baba.

Nice to see that and I was wondering that the old horse would be eating only hey, where is this young horses will be given that what you call those bad bearing bags and they would Munch all the Graham, you know chickpeas and this and that all the nuts and all that and the poor horse look, you know, and you need only he's there for him. And then what happens is the see how he's driving.

Then what happened? Is that what I saw that he would be always there harnessed as one of the horses to a carriage and and the dripping would be done to the old one because you wouldn't be able to go as fast as the young one was there. So all the time trying to urge me to go far hours behold. We always receive the punishment.

But now after many years light has been told mine counter right now with ever.

My wife had to do with my shoes. He would love to take your shoes off. And that was our first encounter 13 years ago had to do with my shoes coming for the very first time at itthey. It was very green and it was a very exciting scene very dramatic and there are virtually no westerners. There's a long line the samadhi and I got in line and I walked up and stepped Across the Threshold my shoes. It was a great uproar great uproar Eric's was there he said to the crowd stop this was

Ian Bob is in his shoes.

And I explained that the shoes and taking off your shoes are playing with nothing to do with religion Allah for God, but it was purely a matter of just cleanliness ball way to work in and now he wouldn't let me because he said it is uncomfortable. It is so couple things. I want to say prior to that period of time that brought me to Barber

13 years ago and I'm probably was childhood polio and become acutely aware of suffering and at age 16 being out of school for a year because of surgery. I would contemplate about various problems in the world political social logical health-wise Etc and how to correct all the wrongs of the world and I began to fantasize variety of political.

Sociological Solutions, but came to a conclusion that none of them were valid except to become God Sunni valid solution to life. Then I dismissed it. That was it 16 years old working 60. Well, I was never into Eastern religion or any kind of meditative practice and I come out of my training at Albany Medical Center in Psychiatry. It was a very straightforward psychiatrist.

And took a job at the University of Massachusetts in Amherst is a staff psychiatrist and I seem to be very happy there except they wouldn't recommend renewing my contract in the year, which was very devastating for me. I said my God, I'm going to go back to selling used cars because that's what I was a former used-car dealer and one of the local local doctors called me up and I hope this day we like you.

Building time and then

Sae staff psychiatrist at the University and then I bought Cushman who was a student and was a third year of UMass and he was like so many people in 69 he was heavily into hallucinogenic drugs and he was flunking out of college. He was despondent, you know suicidal his alienated from his family. He didn't shave his hair was long and then he dropped out of sight and I never thought I had any particular.

Relationship with him because we didn't have that that long and ongoing relationship but the year and a half later he rang me up and said this is about Cushman. Remember me as I remember your name, but I don't remember your face. Come on, we'll have a sandwich came over. He said I thought you might want to know how I'm doing a bob is 20 years younger than I am. He was a patient and he said I am very happy now. I'm coming back and universe.

City we finished my last year. It's got a haircut and I'm off drugs and things are going well with my family just came back from India and the here Baba which kind of sad mayor who and he said Mayor Bob and I asked me to tell me about me or about it as he spoke to me about my hair Baba then erased wrong while reaction while my God, that's me. This is if I suddenly found an identity after flowering

And you gave me the some Humanity. I took that home. I read it and I read at night or day is over it's quiet and I read the statements. I need you and highest of high Lamas a weeping and I didn't want to read any more professional journals a book. I just want to read Baba at home. I read until I fall asleep and tuck them under my pillow.

I knew right then and there I was going to India and this was six months after about a dropped his body. So the summer of 69

And so I read Baba and shortly before the first time at itthey those days to be a fire at home fire broke out and they were driven from the house the wintertime and the damage was some Thirty forty thousand dollars. So it's very serious fire. No don't have yeah. Nobody was injured and fortunately was a house next door.

Occupied by widower who spends the winters in Florida. So she phoned us to say it's okay to use her house. But here it was planned to go to India and it was this fire and I was I was needed but I can be extremely selfish based on those days was very selfish.

The game in spite of leaving the wife the kids to handle all that responsibility.

That's how I came in why I've been coming ever since it's very difficult to really answer. It's it's old hat real is knew all those always some little something that is derive with each trip. Did your family going to to go to India in spite of this tragedy what they're all upset and angry at me and

But what also happened was the as time went on Baba became more prominent in practice and I developed a psychiatric program in a small General Hospital.

And I began putting a bob has photos of his sayings and I felt oh boy, here comes a flat now watch and to my astonishment there was none whatsoever. I just couldn't believe it and said secretary. Do you think it's sorry but up this thing Ababa in the reception room. We're looking at all day. You're behind the desk Jo, that'd be fine. You get away for flak.

You have it comes and even my own private office. We have a separate practice. I bought a huge painting by Leonardo Baba and I I kept it in the back room because I thought if I hung it up people can say the psychiatrist is a quack. He's in the occult. So kept in the back room with storage until one day a patient and all the doors open the crack of doors. Love it. What a beautiful painting. Why don't you hang that up in your room?

And all right, and so it's all hung up everywhere's in Baba is its principal in the kind of therapy? I do his presence. Is there all the time and I is pictures on the wall patient. See it visiting doctors see it.

In I just find it at this so enriching to kind of therapy. I do that. It would be that with Obama would be no therapist.

Baba indeed is truly the master psychologist. He is the really offers just do everything there that you could want in finding a model for doing therapy and just as to go after bottom right now my this a movement inside me to maybe six months take a year off in truly assimilate all about his writings and

To apply that into Psychotherapy techniques

And I'm a little anxious about taking a chance of taking a year off because there's nothing guaranteed their time is up a little wife is very much in favor of it and she's not a bottle of it. You just do it now. She says so that's the story. Are you still in Amherst? Yes.

But what brings you regularly at this time of the it's it's automatic. It's it's spontaneous. It's part of his coming home.

And just coming in to touch base.

I have nothing. I have nothing to ask of anybody. You know that when I come I ask no favors. I asked for no knowledge. No Insight but I feel I must be coming here. Sometimes we don't.

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That we have defiled it. We don't want to hurt your religious feelings. You may have your religious. They although they considered zoroastrians as coffers, you know heathens but whatever it is, they respected the feeling as if you better take away this because we are we are going to demolish all these things.

So the zoroastrians first of all didn't believe that then eventually second thought is all right, so they started preparing and it's not an easy thing to get fire across you see you can't keep the fire a glow all the time and there's an asset needed quick Transportation, you know that and you're so the community heads contacted the community heads here India in Bombay.

Can you say something should be done? Do you must get the Pod here? We can't let go like that. I cannot allow you to defile. What is to be done. Well, we can get it in a plane. It doesn't take much the journey is very short.

How come how is it a fire to be brought in plane means what you know what to do. So the best thing is to what we call call upon the people who are responsible for the flights, whether they will give us a charter flight or not. So the head of the communities, of course, there is no question of money. No question of shortage of money. The restaurants are rich people.

Did they approach the authorities in India?

It's impossible. It's against the law. How can we unless it is well protected. This is what do you want us to do if it is well protected, you know what it is what happens it goes out to follow so you can't have well put well protected fire, even though he want the fire to be a globe and you can't protect it. So what is to be done?

First of many Minds many hearts were put into action eventually with great effort, you know, formerly the soul Air India and everything revolves around is rest Ian tata's it was not as and and something something to do with the original fire of zoroaster. You see what is to be done now burning question avoiding question. You can't neglect it like that can't do anything.

Can't take it for granted or anything else or the law of the land is like that and danger to life danger to the planes. You can't set a precedent a precedent or whatever you pronounce it. So now the set together and those who were in charge in this is

Well what all right provided you protect it properly so that no sparks fly off renewed us prepare such as steel own or something like that. And also they said that will do we realize we are we are people be done with intelligent people. We know what we are asking and we realize the risk because we will be traveling also in it carrying the fire back home to India. So this is all right. Now what happened? This was settled that they are going to chart they permitted a chartered flight.

Right across the question came because this being is arrested issue. The pilot must be a zoroastrian because the Russians don't smoke. They don't defile the fire by putting it in the mouth and blowing the pie like after find a pilot who doesn't smoke is a rarity is if you can find an angel on Earth.

You can find the positive. He doesn't smoke. So it is all these requests and then they said that well we request our with this Charter flight. We should have we shouldn't have any stewardesses receive who are young or if they should not be in the period at the time because it's defiling the fire. You know monthly period of this is this has the effect of a place of the authorities who have madrasas at the time. I better go to public relations for such things. We know that we will give you a chartered flight that will do

Do but you go to public relations, they'll arrange for you to the pilot and others and that all the new better talk to them.

I know this being is all dressed up in the traditional dresses and all that. You know, they came to the boss of nausea Anza and he didn't want the headache and he didn't want to get into this. So he says you please go to mr. Allens. Are you see you go and talk to him. So now the Story begins not happened about the magnet so they come to answers office.

And of course sons are seeing the priests in his office. He surprised he has come to know about all these they are they talked among themselves. So he gets up from his welcomes them and makes them sit down all the rain in his office. There are big portraits above his desk at the back of his seat and everywhere you find his pictures are there at the time they were many pictures their photos.

Today are all seated over there and they put the what you call the request you see and says well what we can do this and you can do that and we can even screen the women, you know from monthly course this is that all the but how can we get a pilot without smoking this is no you must do something and you must get it. Okay, then he tried to tell X people and try to find out there. Is there a pilot there in the Air India get him from?

Different flights in this and that and schedule that flight is make him the pilot but that scheduled flight all these things poor fellow had to do he did he'd have to do that. So they are always in they were assured about it. Now the thanked him profusely for listening to them and whatever he helped we are for the help and all that. Um, no, she won the little one, you know, he feels very little before these people. You know, they are very rare.

Were people so he gets up and says yeah one person kept sitting there.

And the rest of them left.

And then I know she won't answer is yes any other help that I can just know? I want to want you to hear my story. Yes, so he said sit down this is this is my father's picture this my brother. No, are you a follower of meher Baba? This is yes in my humble way. I follow him whatever he wants us to do we do it.

This is the office of the one who follows gababa. So we are very happy the way that you treated us and all that and in return. I may give you a story which I have not told anybody yet.

What is that answer is very anxious to have such these stories, you know, they're like hot cakes for him. So yeah, no, but he promised that he would give it out in the Press. So now the story he's a very revered person. But before he became to this position the status of priest, he was an ordinary person formerly yesterday's youngsters like Ed was before he became priests and all

See you he had his own friends and Company and all that in Bombay. So he says many years ago many many years ago.

One day I was walking by on the fort in the 40 area on, you know, the footpaths we call them what you will call curbs sidewalks.

And the front door is open and a man himself sitting quietly, you know, he has turned and put his feet out there and he sitting like this all by himself because the driver and others who may be they may have gone for some some work, you know, Sababa is it is natural. We know sitting alone on the sitting alone. Nobody nobody is with him that day.

He does not know who he is. He does not know even his faith or nationality of so, he looks at him and he passes by bring passes by and goes a few steps ahead. He cannot resist the temptation to come and see him again.

He comes as if he has forgotten something in a hurry and just looks then passes by size.

So and again, he goes now in his Direction while he's going you cannot resist the temptation something happens mixed in standard and seeing that there's nobody around so he puts his head on his feet and then goes away. This is what he tells Nashua.

This is but how you didn't know meher Baba. So how come that you're telling me about it all why should you tell me a person? Who is he he was same are Bob of yours. He has such magnetic power that I wouldn't bow down to anybody except sarastro himself. Why did he make me do that? But cells? Yeah. He was like him see this is what I'm saying. Is that what you did not know him at the time now,

This is no I didn't know then what happened then how did you come to nurses? Listen? I haven't completed my story. So I didn't know I had to touch my for it to his feet why I did it. I don't know but I passed since I then went ahead past coincidentally. I came across a group of four of my friends coming in the opposite direction from part of it. So I must have gone about three furlongs like that and accosted them or they came and accosted me.

Where are you going in? All that happened? And while they while conversing or the first stop and talk. This is well something very funny happened this morning is what happened. They were also reston's so said you don't there is a certain person that was there in the car and I couldn't resist the temptation of seeing him and I twice went back and forth and then at the end of it I couldn't resist it.

Vision of putting my head on the feet of the person who could that person be really what made you do that? Why did you do that? Because blasphemy according to sarastro said I didn't want to do it but nobody told me but I was compelled to do it why I did it. I don't know who could that person be this is is he still there? Come on, let's see come so here again takes a turn and accompanies his group company, so they go there.

And this pass by and the Sea so two of them knew they were from Pune. Oh is that fellow tour t-shirt seller son? That is where one where Bubba that is people call him and bhava. Mahabhava. He's the one male Bubba because there was a lot of campaign against marry. Bobby said the time in the early years old. Oh newspapers were full with all sorts of rumors about him.

This is all but I put my head down. I don't know why you're a fool. You don't get done it. But today I realize and having put my foot down and coming to this office brings back those memories, which I haven't told anybody. It was kept as a secret in my heart, but your attitude of helping to me helping me out in this dilemma of ours are bringing the sacred fire. You are so good to us home.

So I thought that was seeing him. Once again. I feel like opening my heart to you and tell you the story. That's all.

It's very recent three years ago. So yeah, he does have a magnet in his pocket. You did all those the story but then Babu came to live in there doing for some time.

And when he came he didn't he had the instructions for everyone that nobody should see him and he wanted his privacy so he could do his own work and everything but when Bob arrived from the train when he came out of the train and went into the transport naturally the public saw him and so kitchen seems that that City soon as he would walk out of the Train everybody.

Be looking at him who is this man? Who uses and then when he was staying wherever in Raj pore road going from one place to another people would stig's you gaze at him and so gradually crowd started accumulating and people all kinds of people were clamoring for Bob has darker hue.

So then one day amongst the Mind Ali Baba started complaining in the saying think maybe it was saying the kitchen sings his

I said he's you saying I told you that I didn't want all these people here and hear everybody's coming. What is this?

You're not listening to me properly and kitchen sinks it you said it's not my fault. Well whose fault is it? She's in think that it's your fault. It's my fault is why is this and he says it's because this is a part of the Divine magnetism in your personality which attracts people to you.

I told her the story but he's very young girl. When on I was not there on the thirty at night at at the upper hip the other six hit too far and I understand seek see chic chic chic.

We can't bust and there's a matter of every second important but a blood is needed blood is needed and all that so they try to find the blood and all that but it's impossible to find to match the blood at the time and didn't have spare in the hospital. Also, it happens so often so the father, you know,

What he went out then no. No the when I care about first of all, he does not know in search of that. Where can I find it in? What can I do and says then what happened ultimately our Rickshaw comes after that is this date happening? I don't know but I heard it was late in the night and he is he's very frustrated and disappointed in does not know what to do is daughter's life is there and why mother is there in Bangalore and what will she think about it and what?

Going to happen does not know and then in the early in the morning now, he's going back to the hospital and all of a sudden a man comes in a rickshaw and says, you know, I have come to donate blood. Does anybody need any blood over here and across this person only was just entered the hospital. He says yes, but what's your blood blood group? So he says you find out he takes him there and sure enough. It was the same thing. So blood was taken from him.

And so he is very beholding to the Sportsman. He has come on his own accord and who can he be so he is just trying to ask his address the name name and this and that and so forth. So this is he he says that get me a paper piece of paper. I'll write it down key. So he goes inside and here he disappears. He's no more the man disappeared, but he had seen the Rickshaw that was there and the number and the number.

It was there so he says oh my where is the person gone the ricochets gone everything so he goes back you see.

To find out from the Departments and all who is this person who has come and help me in this picture that so that it shoulder cut is stressed. So he says what do you mean?

My ricochets and the garage for past 15 days for repairs. We shall never but you didn't come here to the hospital didn't bring the direction at the hospital today. What are you talking about? Our ricksha is in garage for so many so long you see? No, it's not my Rickshaw some other option. That's the story. I know what it happened is that

He hadn't told his lovers that for some reason or is work. I do not want y'all to approach me to come to me or the sea, even if you were to spot me on the streets or in a town. Turn your face away from me. I forget now. There was a circular 456 but to see ya was it?

There is do you remember that? Nobody knows here? We are now. We don't know anything about it. The circular is the we don't take we don't attach the importance as we are attaching importance to these episodes. Now when when they begin to live at the time when they are here take we are taking all these episodes for granted you don't attach any importance to its because to us these things are not important. Yeah, they are.

Dust gathering on the time you see around him. See you just brush aside. All these things he and his presence is overwhelming. So what I am trying to hint at so this is the situation and he tells us a day prior to 2nd December in on 1st December. This is you know, there's a test match being played cricket match being played in Pune and I would like to see

Vidia this is tomorrow early morning will drive the kupuna. We were in satara and we'll drive to Pune. Yeah.

Second December the day of accident if you remember 56.

So there I go spatially to see whether the car is clean wash the car and all that and brush the seat. Keep it ready for Baba the next morning I had to drive the car.

He then he said look that day. Although we are going for Cindy cricket match. Don't let anybody know that we are going for the mass or anything of the sort. I said, of course we won't tell anybody and moreover. We are going to keep fast for the whole day 24 hours first. Don't tell anybody.

I said yeah, you won't tell anybody. You know what I mean is don't tell anybody in the sense is, you know, do not naturally we are going out to Pune.

So the women will give you water can Baba's water here will be not only having fast, but he won't even drink a sip of water. So don't try to say the know we are on Fast don't give this Earth don't say anything like that so soon. Oh, yeah, that's a good point. You know, I never thought of it, but he thought okay, it's just

If they give any snack or this or the ticket, but we are going to observe overpass.

So we are all on fast without water without anything and now we are this is the morning of second. So Baba is at different Bungalow and I don't have money with me. So I said I'm I took the car from the monthly Bungalow to The Bungalow where Barbara sided so I'm there and always ready. So as usual all the women are

In this court and that thing and this bag and so many things as it is going on the world tour or something. I accept everything and put in a dick.

Never the word that we are on fast, or we are not going to even to have sip of water. We're not going to eat anything nothing of the sort. So now Bob has in high to lose.

So in the meantime before leaving Monday with all those who were to accompany appointed the Baba. We're in the car from Monday Bungalow measured also come so Bob. I told us that what we'll do is we'll take energy with us and drop him there. Yeah, maybe she doesn't know anything about it. He has to be simply dropped their input and while returning will take Vishnu with us who is in Pune. We've been here.

That's how it was. This is yeah. So now I'm getting out of the Bungalow. I haven't come to Bob is going to get Monday's burglar driving the car out of the gate and all I said just a minute before I could get out of the gate so I completely forgot my license. Sometimes we need the license. So I go inside and fetch my license and keep it then I come back again and we drive the car. We are right on the

The road and there we are across the priests Russian priest says nay Jesus. What what fate is you know, it is said that if you were to see the face of a priest in the morning showed that in the house, he just death in the house. He passes that remark you see and we laugh and I will because he is himself a priest and he tells lies

So young, so we had a hearty laugh.

Now we go to Bob's place to collect him hidden inside the car. He's ready there and he's in a hurry to get out. So he sets we are taking all the things and put it in Dickey and all that but I said Bob has come on I see but we I don't have any money with him. Now. I'm come on come on in the meantime Governor has gone there to fetch some money to give to me for gas and other things. No you come on so I drive very slowly and poor girl.

Running breathless. And then I said Baba Governor is running. This is all that stuff. So she comes and she gets hold of me as his conscious you are you blind that I'm running here. Where are you going over there and all this hideous here. So I took the when he said we are out there and we are we are in Pune now and it's good. The whole field is ready with the players and

All that we reach there and what I'm trying to tell you that we are having a good view of the match that is going on Baba is enjoying. We are seated under a tree and over and a car is parked. Nobody seems to have taken notice of us.

That day at about 2:30 to working people walking on the street and on the road at joining the field that the game is being played so they must have spotted the sky above.

And they started coming inside Bob. Ascari's Baba must be here in spite of the orders and

So they came and I turned my head as I accidentally I see these two people I go immediately there. I said don't you know the order this is here, but Baba is full of love and here he has come here and we just have yes, you're not trying to face him or engine. Suddenly just felt happier all this was there in Barber turned his head. He got up. He got up.

And I could see from his face that he was very disturbed got up and says, come on. Let's get inside. He spoiled the whole data.

And we get up in the get up get inside the car and drive out David ends meet. He needs a more intense and then on our way back to be met with the accident but his compassion is so great while we are there brought back to the Bungalow. He is also all battered and shattered, you know, so he sends word through money. I think she came on a cycle. Oh God.

Forget numbers. I was not in my senses. I had passed out soon. But I am hearing this is you know, Barbara sends a message each one she comes until I don't know who was the person is but it's a lady's voice. It's Baba says.

We have if doctor gives you some medicine or water and thing you can take it now now you can bring the fire.

You remember that even in spite of it all?

Look what I'm saying is that there was a Rosa period nobody should see him turn your face away. This is what happens sometimes.

Story of Alice Tanner. This is what he allows. I lost. So yeah, then we took this right none of them myself. Dr. Milliken was there he's killed and bobaloo and honor.

And we picked up Vishnu and the you were there he envisioned was in the accident. We still have really accident then do as an accident Vishnu was the least hard here. He was not not even least didn't you didn't get any her but nehru was thrown out then do was thrown away which they was in the center in the rear seat.

Nearly was killed. Yeah, no internal injuries.

I was told when I got out of my school, I find my hand on the steering and Langley I said to Barbara what happened so he didn't say anything but um with God dang God God is being ruined everything.

What happened? Yeah.

Nothing

This is what happens when knowing fully well that he has told us not to show but love.

Tries to draw the person thing and this happens sometimes sometimes we forget all this.

It happens differently always but sometimes it happens the way it happened.

You trying to keep a deer novel?

Utilize all of you and overseeing was his companions to out period while he was

Very jolly person because he talked a lot in the beginning his talk was no doubt subdued because of his silence, but in his silence he talked more than a regular person. Yeah.

If I were to tell you many stories are there of his suffering in history of a DC source of Truth greatly.

Hundred Bob also suffer

Many years he was in Baba.

Anything would happen. So we started you will be blamed and we study is so now he has to warm it out that feeling the pent-up feelings and all that. You can't just say that I'm suffering too much and all that. He had learned the lessons you see never to speak out overtly, but we can speak out cowardly in our humors in our poetry in storytelling.

You know running you see you speak out and here you'd understand within Finkel in his eye. You're not isn't it? And he'll understand that we are having a dig at his cause I've heard it said baba baba all the time the blame would he was the source of all this misery to us here, although he is the source of all happiness. What is the source of misery too?

So called Misery. I'm just joking with you also, but it is it is like that at the time when we are living with him, we know that we know that he is the very source of bliss. But how can you reach that Source only through happiness and misery all the opposite season. So he is that tune. So gusta Gina one day comes up with this story versus well tell me a story and he was waiting for that time. He got gets the opportunity.

And he tells this story very telling thing since you know, I'm reminded time and again, I'm reminded as to of that story of that episode in my life. Now. This is what is that episode bubble? Take great interest you Keen interest in dust and you'll provoke many things out of our storytelling, you know, so what is it? This is when I was a kid

Kid, I used to have my school bag across my shoulder. The study was not only a good Storyteller. But he was a good actor too. You put he would stage if you the whole story. Yeah, but the study of intelligence in the sense that very refined so he would show us as to how he was dressed at the time a kid.

And having that bag here and how to walk in all day and when you go from his rent an apartment and house it go to school while going to school. He had to take a regular room. You can't go anywhere else the regular thing every day. Yes to go and come back every day en route. He would find stable.

And whenever he saw that stable, he was fascinated. She would stop there and look and I do this one thing that's always intrigued me. This is what is that Intrigue? What is what was it something coming to kill you? This is yeah. There was something very peculiar. There was an old horse.

That is all the time. Then each time. I saw the old horse was there but the rest of the horses were all new Every time. It will begin after a week or two weeks or two months a month. They will be new batch, but the old horse was always there but he's intrigued me as to how come that this old horses there and all the new horses are all the time changing is the young ones and the old horse was old.

Those who are changing. They're all Young Horses.

Then one day I inquired this device is this what happened when I Grew Older? What is this? This is this is a horse-breaking stable.

You know you and carriages wild horses come there and they purchase horses. So now they are so they have to break the horse for the Carriage Drive the carriage for Riders. It's a different thing but to harness them in a carriage is a different thing. So you needed that. I just remember that and then what I used to see when I used to grow he's telling the story to Baba.

Nice to see that and I was wondering that the old horse would be eating only hey, where is this young horses will be given that what you call those bad bearing bags and they would Munch all the Graham, you know chickpeas and this and that all the nuts and all that and the poor horse look, you know, and you need only he's there for him. And then what happens is the see how he's driving.

Then what happened? Is that what I saw that he would be always there harnessed as one of the horses to a carriage and and the dripping would be done to the old one because you wouldn't be able to go as fast as the young one was there. So all the time trying to urge me to go far hours behold. We always receive the punishment.

But now after many years light has been told mine counter right now with ever.

My wife had to do with my shoes. He would love to take your shoes off. And that was our first encounter 13 years ago had to do with my shoes coming for the very first time at itthey. It was very green and it was a very exciting scene very dramatic and there are virtually no westerners. There's a long line the samadhi and I got in line and I walked up and stepped Across the Threshold my shoes. It was a great uproar great uproar Eric's was there he said to the crowd stop this was

Ian Bob is in his shoes.

And I explained that the shoes and taking off your shoes are playing with nothing to do with religion Allah for God, but it was purely a matter of just cleanliness ball way to work in and now he wouldn't let me because he said it is uncomfortable. It is so couple things. I want to say prior to that period of time that brought me to Barber

13 years ago and I'm probably was childhood polio and become acutely aware of suffering and at age 16 being out of school for a year because of surgery. I would contemplate about various problems in the world political social logical health-wise Etc and how to correct all the wrongs of the world and I began to fantasize variety of political.

Sociological Solutions, but came to a conclusion that none of them were valid except to become God Sunni valid solution to life. Then I dismissed it. That was it 16 years old working 60. Well, I was never into Eastern religion or any kind of meditative practice and I come out of my training at Albany Medical Center in Psychiatry. It was a very straightforward psychiatrist.

And took a job at the University of Massachusetts in Amherst is a staff psychiatrist and I seem to be very happy there except they wouldn't recommend renewing my contract in the year, which was very devastating for me. I said my God, I'm going to go back to selling used cars because that's what I was a former used-car dealer and one of the local local doctors called me up and I hope this day we like you.

Building time and then

Sae staff psychiatrist at the University and then I bought Cushman who was a student and was a third year of UMass and he was like so many people in 69 he was heavily into hallucinogenic drugs and he was flunking out of college. He was despondent, you know suicidal his alienated from his family. He didn't shave his hair was long and then he dropped out of sight and I never thought I had any particular.

Relationship with him because we didn't have that that long and ongoing relationship but the year and a half later he rang me up and said this is about Cushman. Remember me as I remember your name, but I don't remember your face. Come on, we'll have a sandwich came over. He said I thought you might want to know how I'm doing a bob is 20 years younger than I am. He was a patient and he said I am very happy now. I'm coming back and universe.

City we finished my last year. It's got a haircut and I'm off drugs and things are going well with my family just came back from India and the here Baba which kind of sad mayor who and he said Mayor Bob and I asked me to tell me about me or about it as he spoke to me about my hair Baba then erased wrong while reaction while my God, that's me. This is if I suddenly found an identity after flowering

And you gave me the some Humanity. I took that home. I read it and I read at night or day is over it's quiet and I read the statements. I need you and highest of high Lamas a weeping and I didn't want to read any more professional journals a book. I just want to read Baba at home. I read until I fall asleep and tuck them under my pillow.

I knew right then and there I was going to India and this was six months after about a dropped his body. So the summer of 69

And so I read Baba and shortly before the first time at itthey those days to be a fire at home fire broke out and they were driven from the house the wintertime and the damage was some Thirty forty thousand dollars. So it's very serious fire. No don't have yeah. Nobody was injured and fortunately was a house next door.

Occupied by widower who spends the winters in Florida. So she phoned us to say it's okay to use her house. But here it was planned to go to India and it was this fire and I was I was needed but I can be extremely selfish based on those days was very selfish.

The game in spite of leaving the wife the kids to handle all that responsibility.

That's how I came in why I've been coming ever since it's very difficult to really answer. It's it's old hat real is knew all those always some little something that is derive with each trip. Did your family going to to go to India in spite of this tragedy what they're all upset and angry at me and

But what also happened was the as time went on Baba became more prominent in practice and I developed a psychiatric program in a small General Hospital.

And I began putting a bob has photos of his sayings and I felt oh boy, here comes a flat now watch and to my astonishment there was none whatsoever. I just couldn't believe it and said secretary. Do you think it's sorry but up this thing Ababa in the reception room. We're looking at all day. You're behind the desk Jo, that'd be fine. You get away for flak.

You have it comes and even my own private office. We have a separate practice. I bought a huge painting by Leonardo Baba and I I kept it in the back room because I thought if I hung it up people can say the psychiatrist is a quack. He's in the occult. So kept in the back room with storage until one day a patient and all the doors open the crack of doors. Love it. What a beautiful painting. Why don't you hang that up in your room?

And all right, and so it's all hung up everywhere's in Baba is its principal in the kind of therapy? I do his presence. Is there all the time and I is pictures on the wall patient. See it visiting doctors see it.

In I just find it at this so enriching to kind of therapy. I do that. It would be that with Obama would be no therapist.

Baba indeed is truly the master psychologist. He is the really offers just do everything there that you could want in finding a model for doing therapy and just as to go after bottom right now my this a movement inside me to maybe six months take a year off in truly assimilate all about his writings and

To apply that into Psychotherapy techniques

And I'm a little anxious about taking a chance of taking a year off because there's nothing guaranteed their time is up a little wife is very much in favor of it and she's not a bottle of it. You just do it now. She says so that's the story. Are you still in Amherst? Yes.

But what brings you regularly at this time of the it's it's automatic. It's it's spontaneous. It's part of his coming home.

And just coming in to touch base.

I have nothing. I have nothing to ask of anybody. You know that when I come I ask no favors. I asked for no knowledge. No Insight but I feel I must be coming here. Sometimes we don't.

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I said well there's a remote possibility but I should say that well, if you want to have a look at him and see him from a distance it is possible. How is it possible? How can it be possible? Well, it says at the time of Camilla.

You know when there is a mass Gathering of millions of people and he want to pinpoint a certain person you can't be in that crowd all that you have to stand out from the pack. So this is if he if you cross the river and scanned out on the other back then maybe there's a possibility of having a view of others. How is it possible? You follow what I'm saying is is logical truth is it's quite logical. So it says means you mean to say that

On the bank of the river he will be there. Yeah, there's a real possibility in the meantime. What had happened is that Baba does came to know that, you know shuttle gonna come on. Yeah New Life give started going from one place to another and

When we went be stationed at his farm, which is no not that kind of known as mines remarking, but then it is now officially recorded and known as Mayor Marty. It's named after a baba. So by the government so he came in contact and he came to know through shatrughna. The shatrughna is made Arrangement at certain.

What we call carrots that has been taken up by his was owned by his friend. Shut up. My husband and Baba and the Rhythm and the money will be on the Terrace to view this whole occasion instead of being inside the cab.

So he tried to get the address bar with ask Auntie against them and immediately went and inform who care about because it's near to that restrict this place Michigan hardwar. It's hard. It was hard work. So since the real focus on yes, I'm sure to come you had to cross the river and go on the other bank and see there and then forgot old index. He might be appearing there on the Terrace the from a

You can see it if you want. That is the only possibility this is now mind. I will Hazard that so that's how for the first time he had a view of Baba from that district is a long distance and Ganges River is not a small River or regulated you call it makes a huge two things and but from there he actually saw him as the dazzling figure. This is Sarah bothered us. He tells me

Odyssey Baba the he tells he asked Barbara's Bar Association. Is that the person there in that white that is you standing there? So here that's the robe of the new life that company as it is called. Yeah, he's the one and he looks at him looks like and some other his heartfelt and there is something in this man because just by he could accept him there is something in your life.

And then he tells Baba that that was the first games of love polka polka polka dots of the then he tells David us where will it be possible whenever the opportunities afforded to us. Is it possible for us to have a clothes that Shin of him interviewer and the interviewee new life. He doesn't see anybody on his it's not possible. He didn't know that Bobby would make it possible I exactly

Year because if you all know they'll go through the records you find that for one day. He stepped into Old life 1/16 of a budget of October 1959.

So well bothered us naturally was at that time in the circle. So he came to know about that and he informed her car and then poke are there were many other colleagues of him who were also underground workers case you need them was a prisoner. You know, here's your nigga. I just heard a story. Where is it? Yeah in the glow. Yeah, and then there was another another MLA the time member of the legislative assembly.

Long many years his name was Robert triple super sorry. So he was there also so they were they were the invitees at the time so he inquired and they were all colleagues in prison and the time see there is the new so they were followers of other they had heard of Bob and they accepted him. This book has yet to accept but he has not accepted but he has seen

From a distance

So what happened? Is this now some other folk art tries to Wrangle his way into the assembly for that one day and get his admission did so through these people who were very close to about had come close to but not they are not very close but there was a new one. You see it just like yeah. Yeah, the westerners are the time you see and the eagerness and enthusiasm and Baba is slave to their love although Baba didn't want any Outsiders or anything, but they

I said so if I say, all right, let him come bring him there with you. So that's how he got into that stable at that time. And that meeting for one day. Is that for few hours New Life from New Life to Old life and the stable of Oregon's place. There is known as our Constable they mobula sure it was known now for it had been given the name of Florence hall now some somebody some

Religious organization has taken it. I don't know how many years have passed by so in this table. We are all assembled there on that appointed Dion 16th, October. And of course those new life companions are with Baba and Baba is there Baba has not come and the stable is now it's not a small thing. I have hands other kind is a very well known figure if you if you have heard of his me. It's a dynasty. See they are the heads of

Means of people following us there. They are following religious pollen his the religious head and his son and his son's son and all day. They are on the throne in college.

So

Baba had assembled people invitees were there on their appointed time and Baba walks inside the strip.

And try to get like this is this corrugated sheet like a huge gate is there but a very shabby looking this all in a dilapidated condition with him. I don't know why being the ancient one he seems to be attached to dilapidated things. It seems to me. Yeah our garden lucky for us. Yeah. It is lucky. So we are all they're squatting on the earth stable media reports.

You can't have any marble paid things is yard. So we are all there and rickety chair is put for him in a corner at the far end of this table. And he walks in with us. I was there and others two or three Companions of New Life at they're all the companies. Are there you 21 20 of them and we walking double boxing with a few of us and we region to the chair and sits down.

And doesn't sit down. He he enters and all of a sudden they were all seated there come a few minutes before a half an hour 15 minutes before and they all stand up. So barbarous fill them sit down.

And the injunction was nobody should bow down just they can hold their hands. So they folded their hands when they stood up and was killed him sit down and it takes a seat belt when takes his seat. He turns to me and says asks me have they all come I can't count them who are here on Earth. So I look at them and I see the whole full and I said, yeah all are coming because the time is because they were the new about the punctuality and all

As India they are components of the game. So he calls one of the other companies by name Vishnu. We are he were he remembered Vishnu this morning you remembered now we know so he Vishnu was there so which day is the so he tell you he signals to Vishnu shut the gate now.

So for Vishnu from nearby deceit, it's a long distance. Although it's stable is a big one. So he walks the distance and goes to subjugate. The two gates are to be brought together to love them.

And mind you there is no such thing as window or until that stable. You see we are all like horses stabled are you know, there is of course between the roof and the wall, there is a little ventilation. That's all just an open Gap that that was the ventilation.

So and that was the thing to which the light filtered in Wiley shutting the gate to Hill to his notice stuns goose. Taji, who is an old companion ibada and being old of age and he needs to peel when X is frequently. So he was coming with his God. You're not dying and walking and his coming. So it's just respect this but naturally was a

Life's companion Bob has very old companion same he was with Barbara from time of Sai Baba and past month. It's a matter of respect. You don't you just do that. You see immediately shut that gate when we study is kept out like that for such an important meeting here Baba stepped into new whole life for one day for New Life. Although gusta G was an old New Life companion also, so he waits for a while. He's waiting there. He is back.

Back is turned to look at Gustafson is signaling to him to come soon. In the meantime three persons dashed inside the stable. They had heard that seen people coming flocking to mahabaleshwar and they were all from different parts of India. Somebody had come from Pakistan and somebody from Bombay and somebody they all loopy and other places and my publisher is a place a small place is a small hill station ill interrogate crashing here.

Vicky they came inside they just rushed inside and they had heard that meher Baba is there they had heard his name before because baba baba will be visiting my pleasure in your life together. And this is a good opportunity. Megabytes comes to they rushed inside and they went straight to the chair unawares. I was taken up because I was there by side by the sash. I should know better that they should not bow down. But before I could do anything they fell at his feet all three of them.

Together so Bob immediately gets up from his chair and mouse down to them. They are embarrassed and they bow down again and bobbing bounce down and this goes on for two three times. Then I get back my senses. It happened within a minute recording so I catch hold of them. I said, what are you doing? I just lovely but it was goodness on my part. I caught hold of I said, what are you trying to do don't you know that he doesn't want you to bow down because the

Enough because we didn't know about this is going very and caressed his their cheeks and better than and all that embrace them and all that. Don't bother now your make me go so they were happy and they left because they got the physical touch Ababa the contact and all it did was happy.

So then of course when they left Vishnu love the dough

Vishnu comes close to Baba and Picard is see Melissa Picard is Cindy who cares who is an observer now in the company of all the followers of Melba. He's the only one stranger he look he views all this.

And this is what sort of man he is that a person borrows down to him and he returns it takes such great pains and he goes down on the floor on the ground and bows down and all that and now these are the things that come later on to our noses because he is nourished these to me so but what is mind is saying at the time I have to depict that so he is his mind says that will

Have been with leaders. I am myself a leader and I don't mind anybody paying me great respect this year on the contrary feel happy and my day is a good day when somebody does that and there are so many political leaders all over the place. And if you happy about to do in Garland in this and that I'm here is somebody somebody sorry sometimes something we must find out with her. So this is how it has started playing upon his mind the situation.

But when Vishnu came close to Baba and Bobby looks at him and says you are in a new life you were isn't it? Yesterday. We are stepping to own life today. But you know the rules I told you to obey me implicitly I told you to shut the gate and why did you not shut the gate in the meantime, these people came in what what stopped what prevented you from Chinese? So he is actually innocent retells, Baba.

Baba we study was coming and I saw him coming and so I was trying to call him soon. It will be pleased we started what does boostedgt to do with my order. I had ordered you to do it, even if you are seeing God coming. So what has that to do with my honor to you. Why do you wait and then he turns to the people and says how often have been driving home to you all that I want.

You too, baby. Nobody seems to pay any means. He's lamenting now on his own as if he saw you love me. Yeah, and I Am The Interpreter is nobody pay he pays heed to what I mean by obedience and all that and then he says even if I were to tell you to give me a slap you should do it. Come here. Give me a slap now person gets up with all this long necks and he goes and just does this

Vince is this the way to obey me. Is this the slap if any if you were to give a slap to somebody to Pat him on the cheek. Is this the way to open it all this book? Are you seeing her mind?

We did not know that all this drama yet called a meeting a very important meeting. He is stepping into Old life of one few hours from his new life that he would never return to Old life and he has done all this. Why should you do all the sir and it seemed as if but it is so logical that Baba is now emphasizing the fact on obedience and all that. But drama behind this behind the stage is something different which we came to know later on.

So what happened is that he is lamenting the fact that nobody seems to be heat to my injunction to obey me implicitly. This is he is disgusted with that man. He called somebody you come and give me a slap. So the person comes in here like that. Is this the slap that a person goes to another one? Is this the way that you all do it? Nobody seems to pay heed anything you come and give me and then he calls out one to me.

Crosses different Pakistan. And now this is the third time now, he should do something and we know Karis those who know him, you know, yeah, what a fanatic he is. He gives such a tight slap to Baba has turned his head like that. I saw it. What is under the slab? That was Bob versus this is what I mean by obedience to your this is obedience.

And other that in humans is yeah. I'm very happy and pleased would you consider that the women went so what happened is now all this is being witnessed by polka.

His mind is in a turmoil. This is what a leader he is deep a give them orders as a and they carry them out, but nobody has taken upon no leader has taken upon himself to give an example of obedience. And here he is being slapped one after the other and he's never satisfied till the real slap is there the change is hard immediately.

Cut off the giant of a man took all his clothes have need including his goatee and everything naked Stark naked guy and just followed the defeat of Barbara. This is awkward. Absolutely. Yeah everything so, you know in Northern India.

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Tablecloth that that all Indians have them so that it was them so Bobby looks at him. What is this body possessions mind everything I Surrender.

Now this is I'm happy to hear from you. But you just wear the clothes back. So this is my order and he sits quietly. And from that day on the impact was so great on him. But he instead of being after his life now. He has dedicated his life to Baba. That's the story.

And soon after that then of course, he was on the line at the time. He went from place to place in the district telling about Baba telling about his love telling about him being the ancient one and all that sort of thing. He did much work formerly. He had even planned to assassinate.

Even when he was not wearing his leg had or G-Man there are sort of like that and you know, we would advise him take no you just went down.

Yeah, I forgot. He had heart trouble also because of his huge fact that she structure, you know when you came to name. It was wonderful he but people were telling you know, when he came to Maple car was invited to name to that and Layla and then he came we were busy Beach but people were saying was such an experience being taking pukar down.

Highway down from Maine to to Myrtle Beach because in America, you know, we're not used to these items are not even able to stop at this truck stops and of their needs a new but just another trucker they're sitting there with a cup of coffee in there down and nobody said boo to anybody knows the waitress, you know, Kelly five, you know over easier than the, you know, real pep. Talk about you were going in break something.

You're No Nonsense people nothing. So now what happens is that it's not just for that time that this Baba set us an example of obedience for whenever he commanded given order.

Because it was what happened was that at that time the meeting disposed of after the deliberations were over he had given that little message which is somebody has made it. That is The Sermon on the Mount and all that sort of thing. You know how it is a table? Sure. Bob Stern. Yeah, I call this and Mound because my publisher is a man in this Advanced and all that very beautiful message. No doubt.

This is there. But of course we again started on a new life with a new life with me with that's the that's the end of our old life people and all that nothing yet. No, no contact nothing of that sort, but that episode served as best to see when later on after he dropped his body and you all started coming over here and in the early years when y'all came y'all, we're not after what me about us.

Said or here but whatever is discourses of what did God speak say, he said in in God speaks or anything of that sort. They were after every details of his personal life and what happened in this and that is new life and soul live lives of almost there. And in the midst of the topic and talks one day it so happened that I described them as Java. Well, how what happened? How did he come from New Life to this place again? So I described them what?

Night prior to that and that night. We all know the story about the bird and how Baba wanted us to beat him without shoes and spit upon him and all that. That story is famously so they would ask me the question is how did you feel at the time you are did y'all going didn't enjoy feel anything to spit on em on a trip chew em like that.

The time we are never given a thought to exist I said no, he'd never felt anything never felt anything so, you know then or suddenly struck me, why are we didn't feel anything because the lesson that he had taught us of implicit obedience on that day in the life itself. Yeah, he wanted it. So he added. Yeah, who are we to question him and why we should do it on the contrary. We felt happy having sure.

Him because he felt happy and relieved because of his well cruelty to the word. He says Ah now I'm relieved of the burden now the top it all spit on me and then he spat on is now I'm very happy and because he was happy people happy. That's and people when we can arrange them. This is what sort of people this is what I am saying. What is the differences in anything that you give them happiness?

Anything that whatever caters to is pleasure is a pleasure to us is our academics. That's all sometimes really did a nice thing except Italy nice, but it didn't make him happy the women will do, you know gently persuade and gently push her eyes, but it's just like my father your nails. The fingernails are really grown long time to cut that would make such a face.

As if it was such a big thing that all right, they're not that big but I mean there were big for watching the pattern that were engaged. So he turned around to one of us I say that is that big

So then in an industry that I have worked there, I promise to cherish that he's going to read out this that accesses thing to do the matter. What about tomorrow?

That's a lot best day. It is very happy that tomorrow is a nice thing about donating but then it didn't make him happy. Sometimes it is to be great fun run by the ones who said II can I to Goose - shrilly smartly in time and I'm not just the looks cares things like that. Not bad. So

You do this and said, you know and I was just trying to come in massage. Okay, so at the dining table after breakfast nobody sometimes the chair would be turned this way and babble the seated Mara bring out the mustache scissors and been trimming them the media might come out and do something the perform about us coming to the minimum. Listen and I go back and

Tends to me and say that's good. The ones have a lot of how and I be honest and truthful even believe it. But yes and I will get to have a properly and I said but this side is a little bigger than this side, but I think she said and she's okay, right? So she turns the left side. I got this.

How are you? How's it now? How do you find it now? So I love can I say well now this shade isn't so much to me that there is as well. Now, how do you find it now? All right. Now I said well, is it out between you I would have no mustache left.

Those are the party was there ever a time when he didn't have a mustache. No, but so after people have been asking me as to what me. He had big bushy mustache first, right? Yeah. Well in the very early all this so what is what led him to trim the mustache so I just brush it off by saying you ask the women.

We did it. I don't know. I want to know do you we all know anything about it? So it is so then I was right as the women. No, but the one thing that always appealed to me is all these pranks that we would play with him would be and he would play with us but out. Yeah because he does not know anything. He's totally innocent about all this.

And these things that led me but also to believe who he is one of the things what happens is this that these are the last year. This is the last year now 1968-69 now everything is is or 68 knows 4268 end of it. So 269 here we have a month in. Yeah. See, this is 68

Most probably December and all that. It seems that it is the woman's duty to have hot water ready for his bath and this and that because everything is being done there and women seek to that and they took great care of his body and we know it can be very happy about it. And of course when he was on tour then it was my turn formerly before I was Kaka body is to seek his body then out acaba. Yeah retired.

It was my turn. So I just grabbed the same thing played his hair combed his hair trimming the mustache and shaving his beard and this and that and see it is hot water enough ice to do that. It seems that word came in the end of the 1968 from inside saying that now Governor brought the news to me and says try to do one thing get bother to take about. This is why this is we have tried our best and he

He doesn't want to take a bath and it's for a long time now. It's not good for his body. So we must give him and Tyson to take a bath with every time the tomorrow would be there with him. Today is a cloudy day. I have cold. I have I'm feeling feverish and you try to put it off and some other when he escaped from the women's side and came here and you come and sometimes say that you know, today is my crucifixion day.

Pacific Cindy. Yeah, and we didn't understand says do you know what it what I mean by it? I will take a bath when I go here in the afternoon and there again, he'll put it off some some excuse and will again come away. So that's how it was say they did not succeed and they thought that well I might do something to succeed, you know, so they shifted the onus on me.

Begin the Box. Well, I said, all right. I'll try my best knowing fully well because I heard from Governor what they did and all that everything failed. Nothing seemed to induce him to take a bath and it was imperative that you saw his body. His pores need to be what you call opened under. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, how do you seem to be there is but he needed that because what happens every afternoon, I would massages body with talcum powder.

And all that beauty coming and I'll just give it up but how to rub it just a little to help. You know, how do you tell what do you call Jennifer that would make him sleep and do that and then to top it all you see prior to this box business what had happened why government was so adamant and others were element for him to take bath. Is that all that calc was there and could be washed but the top it off.

The love of his lovers they heard that his body is failing all that. So from Iran, somebody sent a Jar full of almond oil almond oil is very famous. You see for body to do strength and yeah medic strong. Yeah. It's a fascinating almond oil the whole job. So they had scented with petition to Baba that this is sent for you for your body to do you good and now your body will be nice around that and he

Looks and one thing that he didn't like to my knowledge any woman would come or any man would come and then Bob would Embrace and if he had any grease or his head and naturally the chief the head ghost was the cheek and that is greasy that he what is this your put oil there. So he would be very careful. If there is an oily head. Then he embraced will not be that intimidation.

Today that much I noticed also and to adopt it all to have oil on his body, you know was real Pacific Ocean, but because of the love of his loved ones from Iran, but since it says love and he's looked at me and he said Baba is really good instead of the style being used. This is the best thing for massage and all that and then put we'll put your body in son and he denies absorb the sun's rays and all that. So this had been happening in every did that bottle.

Be here on the windowsill and you look how much is there and I said I will use only little tank wipe it off clean and I used to do that. He didn't.

The bag this yes very slightly. I killed. Yeah, so I

So then what happened? Is that every did he didn't like the oil and he wanted the oil to finish. Now, how do we do that? He want me to have a little of the oil and then he wanted me to have more of the oil so that it's finished and we get over this so there was a tussle music. So all that was there and of course the women were noticing these things and and the pores are being blocked with you all the time with that old talc powder. That was they're not taking bath the oil.

Then all that but in spite of it the body was very good. Very fine. But what do you call it medically pores need to be open? So the news comes to me that some other get him to think about. Well, I'm here as usual as if nothing has been told to me and of course Baba does not know we know that he does not many.

So he says it is there one fine day soon after this message at come to me a couple of days after that.

I think the advantage he called me near has something that he wanted me to show something and I went there and I saw it and he knew that I had very strong nostrils for smell. So while I'm doing that I'm close to his face and body and as I purposely did that without this is what's the matter I said, I don't know there is a stink around here.

Stink out your items. He had also powerful nostrils. Well established since of yeah, he said I don't smell anything. This is my brother it is there so I even share and you see that there is a dad yet little creatures are here that or something I went down and looked at under his chair and passed my hand and said nothing and did when I got up at the back.

Exactly. Oh I said I know where from where it comes with from Ventura. This is from you're scared. I had to tell Eli answers. This is really so he did this you see it is not very no no smell. See I said, yeah, but Baba for you because you it is just scared that when you don't have that smell but I as a stranger away from your scalp I get it.

Case is it real as a realtor but was not here. So I said I said this morning using GT500 I'm going to win now and one one over the women, you know, because women took pride in yeah, so I was very happy that I won and when I sat down balances go and bring the bed, so I went and rang the bell for garlic. I said I told him in the

Meantime that Baba is time that you should take a bath now and get over with this all this horrible because suppose if somebody comes over here and base is you and all that people used to come is not proper is doesn't good. It doesn't look good in all that is that the case don't ring the bells. So then I rang the bell cow is game. I thought that he's asking her over to prepare the hot water and his duty Bartok body immediately. So when Governor comes on a cycle here

As he comes did you call from his boss is here. Come here. You remember some years ago. One of my lover's from the West had sent a perfume bottle. I have given to Mara to keep it.

See if she can find it ask her to find that and bring it here.

Well after sometimes yeah, it must have taken about half an hour or an hour long time. It was so and in the meantime, we are doing something as if nothing has happened, you know, because I was serious that he should take a bath so we can't go on harping on that. Otherwise the seriousness is lost. So now it comes with a bottle. So Bobby looks at it opens it see how it is. He calls mrs. See how the sainted actually has very good. Just see that

So then he took it is it is just end up here. It is now smell now. I said, yeah the perfume remember keep this bottle on that silver this game before it enters our she enters remember to rub the CAC other they won't have any cigarettes last. I lost nothing seemed.

Inducing to take baths. So then we are the only did he know that he didn't know what clock.

How about this is in the not just periods. Yeah. Yeah at four o'clock. He became hot water in the morning first thing.

And that's what it's not. I mean I had we've been removing or closed after not very social so long. What would our salesmen like events are usually very afraid so it's almost like, you know regular himself.

So the only course left now. I told her that we appear to have it was very upset about Asian. We should be something and all of a sudden I said the only thing to man hundred if you think the medical discoveries importantly whole Soldier taking injections. So how did the what happened yet? Next opportunity was there are of course many days passed by now. It's a matter of

Days weeks are there and days are passing by in the week. There are only four weeks left for into possible. What is important is three weeks are there 113 I suppose your birthday 14 14 is your birthday on 13 on 13 January. He works here the last day.

That's how we remember because of his birthday and telegram to be distributed. Yeah, it's 114th nausea rest Baba's room because dr. Stowell stopped him from coming he would come he had nothing but they said no Bobby. You should take rest if you want if there is any work there with they can come their energy. They will be in your room there. So on 14 we are now called there and I'm with his own hands. He distributed sweets and remember Dawn Dawn today is his birthday and this and that

And today is the day changing constellation Stakes race. It is a great day in India also find we continued with hard work and finish top off and then you sell back and all that and days are passing by this must be about 25th 26th of January 26th. I don't remember the exact day, but very few days were left now for the last wish I didn't know.

So now go there is very

Jittery about all this and what to do and we are all the time trying to find out what to do such as do one thing. He likes for DePaul lavender water. Is this lavender water in 11th? Yeah. We like the perfume of that bit about always like perfume, but not all perfumes station person rolls lavender, so somebody had sent a bottle of lavenders water for now.

So it's got a bottle of lavender is very good. Get hot water ready and these see what would happen keep the water ready. And when we come the just get the water ready and keep it there. So we got we are called and by Barbara for the post and mail every day the demon was there till the last and it has not left us even now. So what happens is they are going there now and bye-bye seated this

Playing and singing so messy recover Saturday bringing the pill.

In the meantime what happened? I will do is feet soles of his feet and started rubbing ski, and I said see what it is.

What is it, you know how to drive skill you can have a powder of skin can rub it like that. They're determined to wash the rub the sole of your feet and you're just sponge defeat. At least if you don't want to take a bath then why can't he do this?

First is all right. I said for that being Bob I will make you sit there and you put your face down. We had a basin of what and then we I poured a bottle not the whole bottles see that how lavender water is nice nice fragrance here lavender water is so yeah. So, you know, I've been bath towels just scrub towels and all that. I started gov everyone like myself another and all that and then squirt Leah after I've done that change the towel change the water knew.

Has been put that's why I bother said what is this as it? Naturally it does naughty water you're throwing it out. And I really want to find you in the meantime, then what happened? I just lifted his pajamas Gil started doing this. What are you doing? I said, no just here then here then here and here the whole body. This is you're using the same tactics that I taught. I did for the must I said, what can we do?

Absolutely, scrubbed and cleaned and everything everything.

So this is how it is how to handle the body gasps like that another bath after that. That was the last night as we prepare the body and all that. His body is nothing to be prepared. But use this.

Okay. Good night. Good night.

Had his wife by any other time it'll give it all seated the and distance and Baba is doing is working with the poor and the neighbors and all that one. And then Francis quiet evening of said, I don't know how to because I'm the barber nearby and we are all anxious to get the thing over you see so all of a sudden it seems this is what Francis said later on prices must begin his wife you see because she was not believing in Baba.

So she is looking and Frances looking in every time that I see all like Co see how he's tending to these people around so all of us, he's a good man good neither must have overheard them and he turned round and either I have to say that Baba says, he's not a good man. Now the says he is God, man.

Change that if there is something in that lump in the block just got that look and that's the end of it all the because I'm not a good man and God man.

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elf004b Audio Extracted.wav [00:00:00] I said well there's a remote possibility but I should say that well, if you want to have a look at him and see him from a distance it is possible. How is it possible? How can it be possible? Well, it says at the time of Camilla. [00:00:19] You know when there is a mass Gathering of millions of people and he want to pinpoint a certain person you can't be in that crowd all that you have to stand out from the pack. So this is if he if you cross the river and scanned out on the other back then maybe there's a possibility of having a view of others. How is it possible? You follow what I'm saying is is logical truth is it's quite logical. So it says means you mean to say that [00:00:49] On the bank of the river he will be there. Yeah, there's a real possibility in the meantime. What had happened is that Baba does came to know that, you know shuttle gonna come on. Yeah New Life give started going from one place to another and [00:01:09] When we went be stationed at his farm, which is no not that kind of known as mines remarking, but then it is now officially recorded and known as Mayor Marty. It's named after a baba. So by the government so he came in contact and he came to know through shatrughna. The shatrughna is made Arrangement at certain. [00:01:39] What we call carrots that has been taken up by his was owned by his friend. Shut up. My husband and Baba and the Rhythm and the money will be on the Terrace to view this whole occasion instead of being inside the cab. [00:01:56] So he tried to get the address bar with ask Auntie against them and immediately went and inform who care about because it's near to that restrict this place Michigan hardwar. It's hard. It was hard work. So since the real focus on yes, I'm sure to come you had to cross the river and go on the other bank and see there and then forgot old index. He might be appearing there on the Terrace the from a [00:02:26] You can see it if you want. That is the only possibility this is now mind. I will Hazard that so that's how for the first time he had a view of Baba from that district is a long distance and Ganges River is not a small River or regulated you call it makes a huge two things and but from there he actually saw him as the dazzling figure. This is Sarah bothered us. He tells me [00:02:56] Odyssey Baba the he tells he asked Barbara's Bar Association. Is that the person there in that white that is you standing there? So here that's the robe of the new life that company as it is called. Yeah, he's the one and he looks at him looks like and some other his heartfelt and there is something in this man because just by he could accept him there is something in your life. [00:03:23] And then he tells Baba that that was the first games of love polka polka polka dots of the then he tells David us where will it be possible whenever the opportunities afforded to us. Is it possible for us to have a clothes that Shin of him interviewer and the interviewee new life. He doesn't see anybody on his it's not possible. He didn't know that Bobby would make it possible I exactly [00:03:52] Year because if you all know they'll go through the records you find that for one day. He stepped into Old life 1/16 of a budget of October 1959. [00:04:08] So well bothered us naturally was at that time in the circle. So he came to know about that and he informed her car and then poke are there were many other colleagues of him who were also underground workers case you need them was a prisoner. You know, here's your nigga. I just heard a story. Where is it? Yeah in the glow. Yeah, and then there was another another MLA the time member of the legislative assembly. [00:04:39] Long many years his name was Robert triple super sorry. So he was there also so they were they were the invitees at the time so he inquired and they were all colleagues in prison and the time see there is the new so they were followers of other they had heard of Bob and they accepted him. This book has yet to accept but he has not accepted but he has seen [00:05:08] From a distance [00:05:10] So what happened? Is this now some other folk art tries to Wrangle his way into the assembly for that one day and get his admission did so through these people who were very close to about had come close to but not they are not very close but there was a new one. You see it just like yeah. Yeah, the westerners are the time you see and the eagerness and enthusiasm and Baba is slave to their love although Baba didn't want any Outsiders or anything, but they [00:05:40] I said so if I say, all right, let him come bring him there with you. So that's how he got into that stable at that time. And that meeting for one day. Is that for few hours New Life from New Life to Old life and the stable of Oregon's place. There is known as our Constable they mobula sure it was known now for it had been given the name of Florence hall now some somebody some [00:06:10] Religious organization has taken it. I don't know how many years have passed by so in this table. We are all assembled there on that appointed Dion 16th, October. And of course those new life companions are with Baba and Baba is there Baba has not come and the stable is now it's not a small thing. I have hands other kind is a very well known figure if you if you have heard of his me. It's a dynasty. See they are the heads of [00:06:39] Means of people following us there. They are following religious pollen his the religious head and his son and his son's son and all day. They are on the throne in college. [00:06:56] So [00:06:59] Baba had assembled people invitees were there on their appointed time and Baba walks inside the strip. [00:07:11] And try to get like this is this corrugated sheet like a huge gate is there but a very shabby looking this all in a dilapidated condition with him. I don't know why being the ancient one he seems to be attached to dilapidated things. It seems to me. Yeah our garden lucky for us. Yeah. It is lucky. So we are all they're squatting on the earth stable media reports. [00:07:41] You can't have any marble paid things is yard. So we are all there and rickety chair is put for him in a corner at the far end of this table. And he walks in with us. I was there and others two or three Companions of New Life at they're all the companies. Are there you 21 20 of them and we walking double boxing with a few of us and we region to the chair and sits down. [00:08:11] And doesn't sit down. He he enters and all of a sudden they were all seated there come a few minutes before a half an hour 15 minutes before and they all stand up. So barbarous fill them sit down. [00:08:24] And the injunction was nobody should bow down just they can hold their hands. So they folded their hands when they stood up and was killed him sit down and it takes a seat belt when takes his seat. He turns to me and says asks me have they all come I can't count them who are here on Earth. So I look at them and I see the whole full and I said, yeah all are coming because the time is because they were the new about the punctuality and all [00:08:54] As India they are components of the game. So he calls one of the other companies by name Vishnu. We are he were he remembered Vishnu this morning you remembered now we know so he Vishnu was there so which day is the so he tell you he signals to Vishnu shut the gate now. [00:09:14] So for Vishnu from nearby deceit, it's a long distance. Although it's stable is a big one. So he walks the distance and goes to subjugate. The two gates are to be brought together to love them. [00:09:28] And mind you there is no such thing as window or until that stable. You see we are all like horses stabled are you know, there is of course between the roof and the wall, there is a little ventilation. That's all just an open Gap that that was the ventilation. [00:09:46] So and that was the thing to which the light filtered in Wiley shutting the gate to Hill to his notice stuns goose. Taji, who is an old companion ibada and being old of age and he needs to peel when X is frequently. So he was coming with his God. You're not dying and walking and his coming. So it's just respect this but naturally was a [00:10:16] Life's companion Bob has very old companion same he was with Barbara from time of Sai Baba and past month. It's a matter of respect. You don't you just do that. You see immediately shut that gate when we study is kept out like that for such an important meeting here Baba stepped into new whole life for one day for New Life. Although gusta G was an old New Life companion also, so he waits for a while. He's waiting there. He is back. [00:10:46] Back is turned to look at Gustafson is signaling to him to come soon. In the meantime three persons dashed inside the stable. They had heard that seen people coming flocking to mahabaleshwar and they were all from different parts of India. Somebody had come from Pakistan and somebody from Bombay and somebody they all loopy and other places and my publisher is a place a small place is a small hill station ill interrogate crashing here. [00:11:16] Vicky they came inside they just rushed inside and they had heard that meher Baba is there they had heard his name before because baba baba will be visiting my pleasure in your life together. And this is a good opportunity. Megabytes comes to they rushed inside and they went straight to the chair unawares. I was taken up because I was there by side by the sash. I should know better that they should not bow down. But before I could do anything they fell at his feet all three of them. [00:11:46] Together so Bob immediately gets up from his chair and mouse down to them. They are embarrassed and they bow down again and bobbing bounce down and this goes on for two three times. Then I get back my senses. It happened within a minute recording so I catch hold of them. I said, what are you doing? I just lovely but it was goodness on my part. I caught hold of I said, what are you trying to do don't you know that he doesn't want you to bow down because the [00:12:16] Enough because we didn't know about this is going very and caressed his their cheeks and better than and all that embrace them and all that. Don't bother now your make me go so they were happy and they left because they got the physical touch Ababa the contact and all it did was happy. [00:12:40] So then of course when they left Vishnu love the dough [00:12:44] Vishnu comes close to Baba and Picard is see Melissa Picard is Cindy who cares who is an observer now in the company of all the followers of Melba. He's the only one stranger he look he views all this. [00:13:02] And this is what sort of man he is that a person borrows down to him and he returns it takes such great pains and he goes down on the floor on the ground and bows down and all that and now these are the things that come later on to our noses because he is nourished these to me so but what is mind is saying at the time I have to depict that so he is his mind says that will [00:13:31] Have been with leaders. I am myself a leader and I don't mind anybody paying me great respect this year on the contrary feel happy and my day is a good day when somebody does that and there are so many political leaders all over the place. And if you happy about to do in Garland in this and that I'm here is somebody somebody sorry sometimes something we must find out with her. So this is how it has started playing upon his mind the situation. [00:13:59] But when Vishnu came close to Baba and Bobby looks at him and says you are in a new life you were isn't it? Yesterday. We are stepping to own life today. But you know the rules I told you to obey me implicitly I told you to shut the gate and why did you not shut the gate in the meantime, these people came in what what stopped what prevented you from Chinese? So he is actually innocent retells, Baba. [00:14:31] Baba we study was coming and I saw him coming and so I was trying to call him soon. It will be pleased we started what does boostedgt to do with my order. I had ordered you to do it, even if you are seeing God coming. So what has that to do with my honor to you. Why do you wait and then he turns to the people and says how often have been driving home to you all that I want. [00:14:58] You too, baby. Nobody seems to pay any means. He's lamenting now on his own as if he saw you love me. Yeah, and I Am The Interpreter is nobody pay he pays heed to what I mean by obedience and all that and then he says even if I were to tell you to give me a slap you should do it. Come here. Give me a slap now person gets up with all this long necks and he goes and just does this [00:15:29] Vince is this the way to obey me. Is this the slap if any if you were to give a slap to somebody to Pat him on the cheek. Is this the way to open it all this book? Are you seeing her mind? [00:15:43] We did not know that all this drama yet called a meeting a very important meeting. He is stepping into Old life of one few hours from his new life that he would never return to Old life and he has done all this. Why should you do all the sir and it seemed as if but it is so logical that Baba is now emphasizing the fact on obedience and all that. But drama behind this behind the stage is something different which we came to know later on. [00:16:13] So what happened is that he is lamenting the fact that nobody seems to be heat to my injunction to obey me implicitly. This is he is disgusted with that man. He called somebody you come and give me a slap. So the person comes in here like that. Is this the slap that a person goes to another one? Is this the way that you all do it? Nobody seems to pay heed anything you come and give me and then he calls out one to me. [00:16:43] Crosses different Pakistan. And now this is the third time now, he should do something and we know Karis those who know him, you know, yeah, what a fanatic he is. He gives such a tight slap to Baba has turned his head like that. I saw it. What is under the slab? That was Bob versus this is what I mean by obedience to your this is obedience. [00:17:10] And other that in humans is yeah. I'm very happy and pleased would you consider that the women went so what happened is now all this is being witnessed by polka. [00:17:27] His mind is in a turmoil. This is what a leader he is deep a give them orders as a and they carry them out, but nobody has taken upon no leader has taken upon himself to give an example of obedience. And here he is being slapped one after the other and he's never satisfied till the real slap is there the change is hard immediately. [00:17:55] Cut off the giant of a man took all his clothes have need including his goatee and everything naked Stark naked guy and just followed the defeat of Barbara. This is awkward. Absolutely. Yeah everything so, you know in Northern India. [00:18:36] Wine club [00:18:55] Tablecloth that that all Indians have them so that it was them so Bobby looks at him. What is this body possessions mind everything I Surrender. [00:19:14] Now this is I'm happy to hear from you. But you just wear the clothes back. So this is my order and he sits quietly. And from that day on the impact was so great on him. But he instead of being after his life now. He has dedicated his life to Baba. That's the story. [00:19:39] And soon after that then of course, he was on the line at the time. He went from place to place in the district telling about Baba telling about his love telling about him being the ancient one and all that sort of thing. He did much work formerly. He had even planned to assassinate. [00:20:00] Even when he was not wearing his leg had or G-Man there are sort of like that and you know, we would advise him take no you just went down. [00:20:11] Yeah, I forgot. He had heart trouble also because of his huge fact that she structure, you know when you came to name. It was wonderful he but people were telling you know, when he came to Maple car was invited to name to that and Layla and then he came we were busy Beach but people were saying was such an experience being taking pukar down. [00:20:41] Highway down from Maine to to Myrtle Beach because in America, you know, we're not used to these items are not even able to stop at this truck stops and of their needs a new but just another trucker they're sitting there with a cup of coffee in there down and nobody said boo to anybody knows the waitress, you know, Kelly five, you know over easier than the, you know, real pep. Talk about you were going in break something. [00:21:34] You're No Nonsense people nothing. So now what happens is that it's not just for that time that this Baba set us an example of obedience for whenever he commanded given order. [00:21:49] Because it was what happened was that at that time the meeting disposed of after the deliberations were over he had given that little message which is somebody has made it. That is The Sermon on the Mount and all that sort of thing. You know how it is a table? Sure. Bob Stern. Yeah, I call this and Mound because my publisher is a man in this Advanced and all that very beautiful message. No doubt. [00:22:19] This is there. But of course we again started on a new life with a new life with me with that's the that's the end of our old life people and all that nothing yet. No, no contact nothing of that sort, but that episode served as best to see when later on after he dropped his body and you all started coming over here and in the early years when y'all came y'all, we're not after what me about us. [00:22:49] Said or here but whatever is discourses of what did God speak say, he said in in God speaks or anything of that sort. They were after every details of his personal life and what happened in this and that is new life and soul live lives of almost there. And in the midst of the topic and talks one day it so happened that I described them as Java. Well, how what happened? How did he come from New Life to this place again? So I described them what? [00:23:19] Night prior to that and that night. We all know the story about the bird and how Baba wanted us to beat him without shoes and spit upon him and all that. That story is famously so they would ask me the question is how did you feel at the time you are did y'all going didn't enjoy feel anything to spit on em on a trip chew em like that. [00:23:48] The time we are never given a thought to exist I said no, he'd never felt anything never felt anything so, you know then or suddenly struck me, why are we didn't feel anything because the lesson that he had taught us of implicit obedience on that day in the life itself. Yeah, he wanted it. So he added. Yeah, who are we to question him and why we should do it on the contrary. We felt happy having sure. [00:24:17] Him because he felt happy and relieved because of his well cruelty to the word. He says Ah now I'm relieved of the burden now the top it all spit on me and then he spat on is now I'm very happy and because he was happy people happy. That's and people when we can arrange them. This is what sort of people this is what I am saying. What is the differences in anything that you give them happiness? [00:24:47] Anything that whatever caters to is pleasure is a pleasure to us is our academics. That's all sometimes really did a nice thing except Italy nice, but it didn't make him happy the women will do, you know gently persuade and gently push her eyes, but it's just like my father your nails. The fingernails are really grown long time to cut that would make such a face. [00:25:16] As if it was such a big thing that all right, they're not that big but I mean there were big for watching the pattern that were engaged. So he turned around to one of us I say that is that big [00:25:38] So then in an industry that I have worked there, I promise to cherish that he's going to read out this that accesses thing to do the matter. What about tomorrow? [00:25:52] That's a lot best day. It is very happy that tomorrow is a nice thing about donating but then it didn't make him happy. Sometimes it is to be great fun run by the ones who said II can I to Goose - shrilly smartly in time and I'm not just the looks cares things like that. Not bad. So [00:26:20] You do this and said, you know and I was just trying to come in massage. Okay, so at the dining table after breakfast nobody sometimes the chair would be turned this way and babble the seated Mara bring out the mustache scissors and been trimming them the media might come out and do something the perform about us coming to the minimum. Listen and I go back and [00:26:49] Tends to me and say that's good. The ones have a lot of how and I be honest and truthful even believe it. But yes and I will get to have a properly and I said but this side is a little bigger than this side, but I think she said and she's okay, right? So she turns the left side. I got this. [00:27:19] How are you? How's it now? How do you find it now? So I love can I say well now this shade isn't so much to me that there is as well. Now, how do you find it now? All right. Now I said well, is it out between you I would have no mustache left. [00:27:55] Those are the party was there ever a time when he didn't have a mustache. No, but so after people have been asking me as to what me. He had big bushy mustache first, right? Yeah. Well in the very early all this so what is what led him to trim the mustache so I just brush it off by saying you ask the women. [00:28:21] We did it. I don't know. I want to know do you we all know anything about it? So it is so then I was right as the women. No, but the one thing that always appealed to me is all these pranks that we would play with him would be and he would play with us but out. Yeah because he does not know anything. He's totally innocent about all this. [00:28:49] And these things that led me but also to believe who he is one of the things what happens is this that these are the last year. This is the last year now 1968-69 now everything is is or 68 knows 4268 end of it. So 269 here we have a month in. Yeah. See, this is 68 [00:29:20] Most probably December and all that. It seems that it is the woman's duty to have hot water ready for his bath and this and that because everything is being done there and women seek to that and they took great care of his body and we know it can be very happy about it. And of course when he was on tour then it was my turn formerly before I was Kaka body is to seek his body then out acaba. Yeah retired. [00:29:50] It was my turn. So I just grabbed the same thing played his hair combed his hair trimming the mustache and shaving his beard and this and that and see it is hot water enough ice to do that. It seems that word came in the end of the 1968 from inside saying that now Governor brought the news to me and says try to do one thing get bother to take about. This is why this is we have tried our best and he [00:30:19] He doesn't want to take a bath and it's for a long time now. It's not good for his body. So we must give him and Tyson to take a bath with every time the tomorrow would be there with him. Today is a cloudy day. I have cold. I have I'm feeling feverish and you try to put it off and some other when he escaped from the women's side and came here and you come and sometimes say that you know, today is my crucifixion day. [00:30:49] Pacific Cindy. Yeah, and we didn't understand says do you know what it what I mean by it? I will take a bath when I go here in the afternoon and there again, he'll put it off some some excuse and will again come away. So that's how it was say they did not succeed and they thought that well I might do something to succeed, you know, so they shifted the onus on me. [00:31:18] Begin the Box. Well, I said, all right. I'll try my best knowing fully well because I heard from Governor what they did and all that everything failed. Nothing seemed to induce him to take a bath and it was imperative that you saw his body. His pores need to be what you call opened under. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, how do you seem to be there is but he needed that because what happens every afternoon, I would massages body with talcum powder. [00:31:48] And all that beauty coming and I'll just give it up but how to rub it just a little to help. You know, how do you tell what do you call Jennifer that would make him sleep and do that and then to top it all you see prior to this box business what had happened why government was so adamant and others were element for him to take bath. Is that all that calc was there and could be washed but the top it off. [00:32:19] The love of his lovers they heard that his body is failing all that. So from Iran, somebody sent a Jar full of almond oil almond oil is very famous. You see for body to do strength and yeah medic strong. Yeah. It's a fascinating almond oil the whole job. So they had scented with petition to Baba that this is sent for you for your body to do you good and now your body will be nice around that and he [00:32:48] Looks and one thing that he didn't like to my knowledge any woman would come or any man would come and then Bob would Embrace and if he had any grease or his head and naturally the chief the head ghost was the cheek and that is greasy that he what is this your put oil there. So he would be very careful. If there is an oily head. Then he embraced will not be that intimidation. [00:33:19] Today that much I noticed also and to adopt it all to have oil on his body, you know was real Pacific Ocean, but because of the love of his loved ones from Iran, but since it says love and he's looked at me and he said Baba is really good instead of the style being used. This is the best thing for massage and all that and then put we'll put your body in son and he denies absorb the sun's rays and all that. So this had been happening in every did that bottle. [00:33:48] Be here on the windowsill and you look how much is there and I said I will use only little tank wipe it off clean and I used to do that. He didn't. [00:34:01] The bag this yes very slightly. I killed. Yeah, so I [00:34:08] So then what happened? Is that every did he didn't like the oil and he wanted the oil to finish. Now, how do we do that? He want me to have a little of the oil and then he wanted me to have more of the oil so that it's finished and we get over this so there was a tussle music. So all that was there and of course the women were noticing these things and and the pores are being blocked with you all the time with that old talc powder. That was they're not taking bath the oil. [00:34:38] Then all that but in spite of it the body was very good. Very fine. But what do you call it medically pores need to be open? So the news comes to me that some other get him to think about. Well, I'm here as usual as if nothing has been told to me and of course Baba does not know we know that he does not many. [00:35:10] So he says it is there one fine day soon after this message at come to me a couple of days after that. [00:35:17] I think the advantage he called me near has something that he wanted me to show something and I went there and I saw it and he knew that I had very strong nostrils for smell. So while I'm doing that I'm close to his face and body and as I purposely did that without this is what's the matter I said, I don't know there is a stink around here. [00:35:52] Stink out your items. He had also powerful nostrils. Well established since of yeah, he said I don't smell anything. This is my brother it is there so I even share and you see that there is a dad yet little creatures are here that or something I went down and looked at under his chair and passed my hand and said nothing and did when I got up at the back. [00:36:17] Exactly. Oh I said I know where from where it comes with from Ventura. This is from you're scared. I had to tell Eli answers. This is really so he did this you see it is not very no no smell. See I said, yeah, but Baba for you because you it is just scared that when you don't have that smell but I as a stranger away from your scalp I get it. [00:36:47] Case is it real as a realtor but was not here. So I said I said this morning using GT500 I'm going to win now and one one over the women, you know, because women took pride in yeah, so I was very happy that I won and when I sat down balances go and bring the bed, so I went and rang the bell for garlic. I said I told him in the [00:37:17] Meantime that Baba is time that you should take a bath now and get over with this all this horrible because suppose if somebody comes over here and base is you and all that people used to come is not proper is doesn't good. It doesn't look good in all that is that the case don't ring the bells. So then I rang the bell cow is game. I thought that he's asking her over to prepare the hot water and his duty Bartok body immediately. So when Governor comes on a cycle here [00:37:47] As he comes did you call from his boss is here. Come here. You remember some years ago. One of my lover's from the West had sent a perfume bottle. I have given to Mara to keep it. [00:38:04] See if she can find it ask her to find that and bring it here. [00:38:11] Well after sometimes yeah, it must have taken about half an hour or an hour long time. It was so and in the meantime, we are doing something as if nothing has happened, you know, because I was serious that he should take a bath so we can't go on harping on that. Otherwise the seriousness is lost. So now it comes with a bottle. So Bobby looks at it opens it see how it is. He calls mrs. See how the sainted actually has very good. Just see that [00:38:41] So then he took it is it is just end up here. It is now smell now. I said, yeah the perfume remember keep this bottle on that silver this game before it enters our she enters remember to rub the CAC other they won't have any cigarettes last. I lost nothing seemed. [00:39:11] Inducing to take baths. So then we are the only did he know that he didn't know what clock. [00:39:41] How about this is in the not just periods. Yeah. Yeah at four o'clock. He became hot water in the morning first thing. [00:39:55] And that's what it's not. I mean I had we've been removing or closed after not very social so long. What would our salesmen like events are usually very afraid so it's almost like, you know regular himself. [00:40:19] So the only course left now. I told her that we appear to have it was very upset about Asian. We should be something and all of a sudden I said the only thing to man hundred if you think the medical discoveries importantly whole Soldier taking injections. So how did the what happened yet? Next opportunity was there are of course many days passed by now. It's a matter of [00:40:49] Days weeks are there and days are passing by in the week. There are only four weeks left for into possible. What is important is three weeks are there 113 I suppose your birthday 14 14 is your birthday on 13 on 13 January. He works here the last day. [00:41:09] That's how we remember because of his birthday and telegram to be distributed. Yeah, it's 114th nausea rest Baba's room because dr. Stowell stopped him from coming he would come he had nothing but they said no Bobby. You should take rest if you want if there is any work there with they can come their energy. They will be in your room there. So on 14 we are now called there and I'm with his own hands. He distributed sweets and remember Dawn Dawn today is his birthday and this and that [00:41:39] And today is the day changing constellation Stakes race. It is a great day in India also find we continued with hard work and finish top off and then you sell back and all that and days are passing by this must be about 25th 26th of January 26th. I don't remember the exact day, but very few days were left now for the last wish I didn't know. [00:42:10] So now go there is very [00:42:15] Jittery about all this and what to do and we are all the time trying to find out what to do such as do one thing. He likes for DePaul lavender water. Is this lavender water in 11th? Yeah. We like the perfume of that bit about always like perfume, but not all perfumes station person rolls lavender, so somebody had sent a bottle of lavenders water for now. [00:42:45] So it's got a bottle of lavender is very good. Get hot water ready and these see what would happen keep the water ready. And when we come the just get the water ready and keep it there. So we got we are called and by Barbara for the post and mail every day the demon was there till the last and it has not left us even now. So what happens is they are going there now and bye-bye seated this [00:43:13] Playing and singing so messy recover Saturday bringing the pill. [00:43:25] In the meantime what happened? I will do is feet soles of his feet and started rubbing ski, and I said see what it is. [00:43:34] What is it, you know how to drive skill you can have a powder of skin can rub it like that. They're determined to wash the rub the sole of your feet and you're just sponge defeat. At least if you don't want to take a bath then why can't he do this? [00:44:03] First is all right. I said for that being Bob I will make you sit there and you put your face down. We had a basin of what and then we I poured a bottle not the whole bottles see that how lavender water is nice nice fragrance here lavender water is so yeah. So, you know, I've been bath towels just scrub towels and all that. I started gov everyone like myself another and all that and then squirt Leah after I've done that change the towel change the water knew. [00:44:33] Has been put that's why I bother said what is this as it? Naturally it does naughty water you're throwing it out. And I really want to find you in the meantime, then what happened? I just lifted his pajamas Gil started doing this. What are you doing? I said, no just here then here then here and here the whole body. This is you're using the same tactics that I taught. I did for the must I said, what can we do? [00:45:03] Absolutely, scrubbed and cleaned and everything everything. [00:45:16] So this is how it is how to handle the body gasps like that another bath after that. That was the last night as we prepare the body and all that. His body is nothing to be prepared. But use this. [00:45:55] Okay. Good night. Good night. [00:46:14] Had his wife by any other time it'll give it all seated the and distance and Baba is doing is working with the poor and the neighbors and all that one. And then Francis quiet evening of said, I don't know how to because I'm the barber nearby and we are all anxious to get the thing over you see so all of a sudden it seems this is what Francis said later on prices must begin his wife you see because she was not believing in Baba. [00:46:45] So she is looking and Frances looking in every time that I see all like Co see how he's tending to these people around so all of us, he's a good man good neither must have overheard them and he turned round and either I have to say that Baba says, he's not a good man. Now the says he is God, man. [00:47:14] Change that if there is something in that lump in the block just got that look and that's the end of it all the because I'm not a good man and God man.

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