Eruch Jessawalla - Customs and Traditions
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Now you something Mary Center Mall. You have a couple over there. Come here. What is she did?
She's in the Army her husband works. She's also working.
You said is that we mean by the couple of there's a couple of bubble lovers there because you know this couple maybe sentiment.
Are there any in Korea, you know, you don't know anything Hong Kong Taipei. The only thing that I know about.
Where did Jim my work? Do you know Vietnam? He told me one day the story believe it or not and is from Jim Myers. So he said I was in the Army and he didn't like the whole thing. But still he walls and you are seated somewhere.
And the street did and he was noticing an old man.
Laboring like anything and it was hot and sweaty and all that the old man was going on and on and on.
And he could not resist looking at him and then stage came when he could not resist just sitting there not taking any notice of them by directly approaching him. So he had to go there try to find out what is he trying to do trying to kill himself like that you're struggling with a pillar you see the post that was there and he was trying to stake in it and pull it properly and against it and it runs digging a pit or something like that deliver quickly as we call it here.
So he goes this and it looks at this old man. He's very old that old man. So he says, what are you doing?
And to his amazement what he sees that he has a baba button on his chest the old man the old man.
So this is so he simply said Mary Baba. That's all nothing more. But still he says to my amazement. I found that this old man. I was so taken aback. You see with pity and all that wanting to comfort him. I went there and the comforters was there on his chest. He says he knows how he was comforting.
Despite to be no. We don't know who are the water how many variables in Korea there's but the sea told us about detail you alone anymore.
I hear there's somebody in Taipei, but we don't have an address for him in Singapore are not going to make the results.
And the public is how you and I never I never mentioned bother again. That's why he needs later something and say and I said States, you know, the filters that come so one of the reporters Bubba pit visit three times, he was around the world three times 13 times. He went outside the
During one of his visits
You are asking the 50s. Maybe know how many disciples you have got all over the world. What's the number of your disciple?
So I was the interpreted.
I wanted to see what is he going to say now how number of his disciples with do we have a counter and think we know account or we don't even know so he that came the reply. He says do you ever intend to come the number of hair on your head? He's putting across question to the little the answer.
It is very easy for bald person to count the number of Heaven.
But
Baba had a lot of him. He always has a lot of hair.
On his head
Because he has abundance of his followers all over the world sometimes in one form or another longing for him calling out to him not knowing whether they're calling out to marry Barbara good Jesus her apart from all the established a twins. There are many many products. They are all his followers.
Google had called a meeting of his workers.
Giving the final draft of a circular to be sent out all over the world calling his nearest and dearest workers.
From all over the world
Deluca subpoena for the summer to be in his company
And we were thinking as to how he would do it and what we need to do and all that because we would see that his health was failing.
Physically, it seemed to me at least but it was not possible because it seemed that it was possible. Why should I feel it that way in the world? So I'm looking at him and see him eventually it so transpired that day that was finalized must they must all come and send out the invitation because the new mutation can be a bother I'll tell me about her to his loved ones and all over the world and each group had a definite period
Come and be with him. How many four days four days she was dead.
Honoring the invitation the god extended they are not see mother did not see and they did and others.
Not in vain, but those who have witnessed that be sitting with him fabulous reduction. It's very easy. I won't be like this that you see now be very strong. How is it possible?
Every day of all days a week and of for two months, it's not just from outside the country. It's from India as well as all over the world.
State should you big groups in in the morning westerners in the evening afternoons easterners like that? You see.
This is why do you always bother about it?
This is well. If I am unable to sit I'll be declining what's there in that doggy? Very strong. And then he one day I was in a very sad mood seeing this. Uh, it's all comforting words that he's giving off that you know, as I told you all the time observing all the time trying to seize it so
Comforting words then he says to me remember I will not let you down.
Go ahead. Let it do. You see he pastored then when he passed away. His body was taken to mehrabad the tomb that is going from here and all that. Well, that was forgot just in two months time. There will be these people will be coming by chartered flights. You see they are already put in the money that one spins for charter flights alone. So at the time where the body was
In state lying there in the inside the Crypt, you know, that group was originally made them just as you have the murals outside on the walls the noodles inside to regulatory. So while the body is still there it was there for seven days.
People come in they say that well, we have to send our cables westerners and come also their albums of the other pills of the so what should we do should become a not that at that moment. His words came to my mind. Why not let it be I shall not let you all down. So I said to them he has extended his invitation. It's left to every individual to accept the invitation of God or rejected.
At the time he is there.
Look Tina. What is it? This is the miracle of the god of the draw. Nothing. Nothing Exquisite. Nothing extraordinary. It is the silent giving of his love without anybody noticing.
Sole supplier of cream to the calendars biggest firm is in India.
Bottom corner
Supplying cream or butter than Jesus when he came in contact, you know how he came in contact her Bible.
Through a vision, you know the story when you know about vagina, then you must know about you know, you know, you know, it is forgotten. Come on baby. No, I don't remember the story that he is briefly please. He saw a vision When Baba was a new life and he sees all
Some great one walking by and says you you come and Supply the stores today. He shows the plane and violin and then the house the go and get all the supplies over the food and all that Jaden.
And nobody was supposed to know that he was coming in this guy. Who is the person who khaki not Allah is the person you see our users father was who knew about his arrival, you know? No she won't.
Not knowing their but he knew the house. He knocked at the house. It was night and the purse cake even the father of hands are opened its what is it? What do you want? This is his there's somebody coming here to this house who has ordered me to get all this. What what all is what it what have you brought? This is no, I haven't got it in see that. So his
House is there it has a tiny compound beyond the compounds the main road. This is the gods are waiting there, please unload. This is what what I try to be your come to a wrong place. Nobody is going to come here. Nobody wants anything who has asked you to bring this. No, no is some mistake some different it is no then somebody who is going to come.
He has lot of people around him and he told me to bring it where it is. Tell you Vision about it. When did you have the vision Series? Where are you? Who are you what are you and so forth then you could not resist he knew that the next day Baba is coming arriving. This is the only one who knew.
That's he says always do one thing. I have my small case, you know, I can't store all this can't even that one Bullock cart inside. You better go and find your resident somewhere outside in an inn or some some place where you can store these things and come to me in the evening tomorrow next day because you know Baba is supposed to arrive in the after e and then he might speak to Baba Baba might burst the subjective. He has called it.
I'll let you know in the evening tomorrow evening.
That's how he went away and then my father said get him to come and see me. That's how all the thing is God and he came and not only that then Baba said what is all as soon as he saw Baba that he was the one.
So he prostrated before Barbara and Bobby didn't like it because it is New Life and we had to pull him up. What is this? What what are you this is you asked me to bring all these things in our bucket. When did I tell you baba? You told me Envision you you were the one who told me to go to that house. And so I've got it. So do you mean to say that we are really the cooks over here who is going to cook who's going to like this?
What do you want if you can cook and I can I get my fun family. This is your of course, you have to go and get the that's how the whole family came and they acted as real Chef since you servants, you know prepare food for high class people in Seoul in contracted to the calendars means what Kevin is a huge firm Factory, you know manufacturing butter and cheese.
Cream and all that sort of leads to give in canned things in it. Have you ever bought any such things can we don't have canned Cheese's that's what all that butter. But also you don't have not candy. That's how it works. He came.
The term about Johnny I'm telling ya Cummings. I didn't know if I'd missed ya so he came and he did that his family came and served. Not only so but cooked would go to the market get the fresh vegetables and clean them and do this and the feast that we had a new life a life of sheer helplessness and hopelessness was and Baba said that our life will be such that he will
Kings would be good envious. That's how we were Beggars and yet we were made helpless and hopeless with the food that we was served to us. We felt that that was such a nice rich food and prepared with such love and surrender. They act the hotspot touch that they are serving the lord himself. So that's how it was so
He was so overpowered with all this this whole situation that was and being constantly in company of Bob and all that in you life. Mind you he didn't know what was happening in knew anything about Baba and say eventually then it was whenever you would ask what happened. What is this? So you'd say Baba John Tory sing. When are you going? Who are we how long you're going to say stay all the answers would be Baba Jani.
From that day onwards you just lost the balance of his mind you see is it babajanian? Anything will die. I'm not saying that you would be the things that would come out of his mind. So that's how to reduce and we didn't just see the degree of surrender. So he said he knew nothing everything. Is he who does it he is the one who is the doer the cause and everything? Who was he didn't know?
Yeah, it's Baba Johnny. So we feel we forgot his name is Tori singing and we used to call him Baba Jani Baba. Johnny said this entire versions, but see how he what happened. Is that after some time I think after about 15 days or 20 days. I forget my exact that he cooked and served in order novices and when satisfied and pleased with you, I'm really very happy. Now you go back and do whatever you like.
Goodbye, so all of the family were sent away and all done by children. They would cook another day all went back.
It was a very sad party for the whole family and then he ordered his family that from today onwards who's the day they arrived let the kitchen of the house be always open to any Wayfarer who comes for food lest. He might come and be my confusion.
So yeah, kept the whole kitchen family continue to cook and kept food ready at all hours of the day and night for all the people who would come so people when they you know how it is for these drawers. Any people any replies any Vagabond can come and eat there was no objection knows nobody stop.
List one day he might come and he might refuse it.
He lost all his wealth in feeding the people start saying his name was Tony sin. Is he still alive? No, he died soon up. Then what happened after some time then of course, he was inducted for a new life in the face called give any faction. He was called again. That's how we came to know about this next phase of his life when he came with her came to us and Baba said,
Now look, you know the know how about it all I want them to do G business give him his clarified butter. So you help them get all the cream that you are supplying to Kevin to stop that and get it here. So that's how it was all calendars so shut down there and we started manufacturing here knowledge. So he was with us for quite a long time. And then when he went back it all continued and then we got his son got married very happy.
We and all that would gradually his wealth dwindled to zero as you say zero credit zero credit and then he passed away happily how he must have been at that time when he passed away. He must have been about nearing 70.
Before Bobbi Kristina the problem
What is key used for I mean, why is it you know why but just imagine butter in this climate will be turn rancid, isn't it? Unless you have refrigeration but household year. They don't have any representations. You see majority of the people nowadays. It's getting involved in who have visited the formally so what they should do. They would go a step further you prepared butter separate separate eyes trained.
I'm from cream you get the butter and the butter is boiled again and made into G. There is certain temperature curve is clarified. So the butter of the water is just evaporates and all that and it's there and that remains to you year-over-year properly kept his taste if you can whenever you want you can take it and cook anything and it has a beautiful.
Awful Aroma is of G. You can get you can get rid of the pure ghee or yes hydrogenated made for the Indian. Yeah. Yeah, if you can fry an egg in that my God what that egg? It is delicious. If you put a little spoon of it you see in doll boil it and give you can be spread on bread like butter.
These children we are still in use even freshly-prepared gives their mothers used to give us so much apathy and sprinkle a little sugar and roll it and cue that would be our afternoon Delicacies in the children loved it. Sometimes it's better with brown sugar. It brings out the flavor of brown sugar as well. As GE is very delicious. Very delicious much better than the smell.
Or whatever you call it the aroma of the butter that you have, you know that but Karis also sent a different thing much better than that only farmers have will be no. Oh, yeah, even that is gone. It's lost. Its now abnormally costly. He is about 50 rupees partner 50 rupees a pound key.
Who's going to buy it? Formerly? It was hardly 5 and is a pound. What's the additional process with the butter all that you do is to boil the butter eat it. But you know there is moisture in it. You see this is boiling their Sunday that little scum the come see us come out small and then but it sure it must have a proper consistency if you go a temperature Beyond it.
Gets burned to see so yeah, so the sukkah is some keyonna. What what do you do?
Yeah, not to be overheated not to be under heated.
Ball that is water. But I know somebody who did that a Syrian lady who always does that to her butter and the things that come out of American buddish said you wouldn't believe the air and the dirt impurities. No don't know but it's good to have clarified butter. You can preserve it without Refrigeration. You can take it whenever you want cook anything and just getting the moisture out. We'll make it last for a year, huh? Yeah.
Yeah provided provided you don't put the spoon there and paste it and then I put the spoon again or take it out you say like this externalized otherwise westerners are prone to put dip your finger. They stood as it's nice to put two fingers in tasted very good three fingers.
Do yeah, it's it is considered to be defined Even in our homes Nobody Does this uses?
Children brought up not to do that not to put your finger. You can put your finger we eat with fingers in your portion of the food but not in the main dish from the did she take it in your office. And then you put your fingers in you can't just take this and eat it like that and you hand over your mouth. Then you have to wash your hands before eating.
But that's formal means what there in the west is he who eats because they have used their gloves and all that. It's always clean. There's no need to wash, you know, you have your cream and all that sort of thing. Don't tell you that we wash before eating but it's all freezing. You know, the water is very cold. We have to watch me eat.
Even that survived spoons and forks. We need water. Why? Why do you why do you have Cutlery there weren't so big. Why do you have Cutlery marriage Louis Tilly the RPM pick it up the European average you watch them go into the dining hall and maybe a quarter of you will wash the hands of the program since I always do Never Say Never.
Five minutes after you wash your hands again. Yeah in this country doing now you sit here see how how the feet are there you go out. I had gone out. Yeah it is this so it is best not gone not to have a fad of washing. But when you want to eat something that you want to put in your system wash it is best to have that tour on safe side. That doesn't mean that you wash anything off or intensive. It is the comfort that is clean for others.
Students because others do not want any your hands to put in dirty hands to touch anything if you take fruit of grapes or anything else or you wash your hands and then do nobody will object it.
Here in India. There was original custom was that you eat in a platter is a huge platter there and we all sit around the platter and if you eat from the same but are eating or so decent that it wouldn't be defiling anybody and we will so we will take a more so and that we won't even put our fingers that with the thumb, you know will push the Marshal. Yeah. Yeah, we have this get up with this is shoveling.
Like that, inhale the see how it is and then shall you shall that's how it was. So naturally we had to be very careful all the elders. Are there the children are there so children are taught. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was the etiquette at the time. All City plates came. Otherwise the glass.
There were no glasses. There was the bowl of water. That was the each one who take and drink. That's why we don't touch it used to drink it that way so that all can drink it you follow all the necessary because you are glasses. You can have a glass for each one of you that's how it is necessity was there at the time it's that's why these customs and traditions are because of the missus now, you all have spoons and knives and forks, and there's no need to wash our until you have
Have you have no time to do all that you do is just rush from your work, you know and like dogs you talk about it and then rushed to the work again in short we have fast food, you know, yeah fast fast, but don't you think we're slow eaters? I thought yeah. I know that you think that much I know that you put in things in the mouth, but you go on munching and chewing we just but we means not
Only meher Baba people who lived with him. Did we Indians the Jew as I this morning? I was telling me, you know, my mother taught me to what what did I say? Eat your water to your drink your food?
Choose so much and missing the saliva that you eventually don't swallow your morsel. But you drink them also the Chinese and the water you have to put it in your mouth and just mix it and then chew it and then gulp it. So that's how it is that keeps you makes you Centenary your opacity or Century hundred thirty years. Ten years. Ten years hundred ten years like that Sababa.
On live to be that long. She really that way right? I didn't know there was no such thing as time. Yeah one never knows. It's a Restless feeling one. Once you're with him. There's a feeling of restlessness in one when we call when he might come here. You might want to you might do this. You can't afford to waste your time.
I'm relishing the food. You're like worse than a dog dining table and he would say that you like that you spoil your stomach very much concerned about his concern was comforting but was it allowed? Was it permitted?
Cunt because anytime he might it will be who spoilt ourselves. We can't save you. Maybe there is there was something in us that the restlessness he might want as he might call her see my do then we will be caught up like that many people who have seen the film's they tell me that what a glutton you seem to be even in front of all you take a piece of cake and he you know that often. Yeah. Baba gives me peace of
Cake and I just put in the mouth and what happened because mouth has to be in your mouth.
Do you have a choke choke choke for putting too much in your mouth? It might be at the time when somebody would ask you see nowadays. We are getting that sensation weakness can do every night. You see he has to just cough and older so now it is be a feeling that because we talked at the time while we have that rapid food inside you see so
Seems that some parts of our anatomy have gone week or something like that. So there is a choking sensation. You have to cough it out and sometimes I have it but invariably paint as you know, follow every night because some people that you know that love must be getting weaker or something and that at the time
I think it has started finish over.
There's a beginning. It's a great comfort.
Everything that's composed must come apart. Isn't that Buddha? So does the world that never did the world have a beginner? Yeah, it has that is the creation not the world.
Everything is the beginning the adventure had a beginning that when person would you repeat that? It is infinite unconsciousness evolving itself into Infinite Consciousness, and it felt like a Mobius Loop.
And he tells me to exactly what the doctor tells you. Now this kind of orders are very difficult. You can do anything for baba, but supposing Bob over to tell me, you know, you please much make her happy when you know, whatever she would like that's quite a different thing. Actually it is for baba. But you see we differentiate we separate we learned that in time anyway at though in those days. We didn't even question and having Barber said
Why you saying it? We didn't even question? Why does Babylon me to go to a doctor? Why does he nothing?
He wants me to go to the doctor. I went do what the doctor said that wretched doctor. I don't know what he's born as now but he's topped my door completely. He said there will be strict diet. No dahle. No dahle of any kind. No doubt of any kind and castor oil every week and boil spinach. I hated vegetables at home. My poor mother would cook vegetables and such.
Various ways and and very delicious. Hmm. I push it away. No use for vegetables either the chickpea flour like bhajiyas and Waters and things or eggs fish and me. So here was it not only delicious spinach but boil spinach and even mirrors at afterwards we'd feel so sorry for you. They are you sad with this bowl of water hot water with spinach in it dipping your fingers bringing out that spinach and eating at you know,
Don't support Naja. She didn't know how to prepare my omelette that was chickpea flour means door million dollars and everything. So she made my omelet out of wheat flour.
And it was a stickiest messes you can imagine rubber. So I've wrote it put it in my mouth and pull I strong teeth them. I was young. I was very hungry. So I know that that's the way I'd had my omelet. This went on for quite some time. And one day Bible said Baba said, no, he doesn't tell me what the doctor would say says you can have Dal and rice from today.
Yes freaked all for you. So I still remember I sat there with a plate of rice and door for me. It was like mutton Biryani or anything. You see now I was happy. I was having rice and daal on its own Merit not as a substitute, which I had asked for. And now this is from Baba mine has been removed. This is from Baba in the same way the point I was trying out of going to make is when
My father lost the case and all the property was wiped out. It was like a clean slate finished. Nothing that they he had earned or was called his was re-elected remaining all white clean. And then Baba sent them something every month to subsist on it was from Baba not from you not for my own self in the same way. This door was not
My attempt to make a substitute give Baba a substitute surrender say all right, no meat. I'll take Don White all that out and that he presented the darkness you have done.
In that same way, we we offer so many substitutes to ourselves and to him because it is no joke giving the real thing. So in his compassion and his Lobby allows it we offer flowers as a gesture and it is from the heart it is with love, but the real flowers are the little sacrifices.
Sacrificing what you would like to what he would like giving those little givings obedience, even when it is not what you would want to do that coconut representation of a coconut of the plaster or at the feet of the Lord the coconut represents the mind to give up the mind to surrender the mind to him impossible. So he allows us to put a coconut with there you see the church
Churches, you see it everywhere. Even at Baba's feet so many of his Hindu lovers become it's a traditional thing. We put the coconut there. So you see he
Actually what he says is don't worry. Don't worry about anything. He'd sit in like that's a why why why why are your head only try to love me and to hold on to me and I shall myself thank God supposing to be near him supposing you'd had to have not a diploma, but I'm supposed you had to have so much knowledge or you want you had to have achievement of so many months of meditation or so much of this stuff.
That where would we be broken down Furniture a very fortunate just to be allowed to be with him accepting us for what we are as long as we are he is totally holy his
I did the come down from the hill get done errors back here. What you say in that that line that you've repeated to share ERS. What do you mean lost with one?
Long ago, you know that reminds me of that last couplet.
I'm slave of the master who has released me from ignorance.
Doesn't say who will release me.
As for weeks, that's right. It's an accomplished now. Just please him be his who has a release.
Talking of that or Baba says is don't worry. It's his habit.
Always he keeps telling us don't worry don't worry, but it's not a habit not to worry, but I have every with me in the old files a telegram Baba had sent to Rob Jew and the writing is an English spelling is an English.
They are better repeat this with us. There's a telegram in my files of ram juice. So this telegram was sent by Baba to rummage around ago. And the right the wording is in English, but it says fika mat Karo fwk are fickle means worry Matt. Mhm at don't and Carol is do Flickr. Mat Karo.
Even in the telegram don't worry side mirror.
I think one of your medicine starting making a song of figure macro Jaber.
Well, Tom, we've used it extensively in Australia. I was telling Tom.
We've just asked permission to print 5,000 copies for Australia, which will distribute almost completely to currently people who write in magazines. Yes. I get all sorts of magazines and I go through and I look at the letters. I think this person could be interested and we've had a very good response. Yes to the book. Yes, there is currently there was
Young young woman who is it is coming out and meetings regularly just over the last month or two. We sent her a book and she she was so taken with a cheery read it and then she immediately searched where she could find more literature and track me down and turned up. Yes. It was. I mean that one book was enough to bring her to Varna.
Well, what what is particularly good about it is that it's 90% Barber because first of all that the first part is Barbara's life and the second part are excerpts from all the discourses put together by me with occasional interlocking sentences so that there's a film
So that the whole book is really is really a bomb and this makes it particularly worthwhile because if you have the in truth of the offer and the author's personality comes in but once there's a yes
Spontaneous little urging on my part
How did you happen to come down to Bob? And then Dorothy? How did you happen to run him? They started speaking of you think their hearts and all the I was really very happy episode to me when I when all of a sudden Dorothy speaks out to Thompson strong. What are you saying? You never told me that before and he started saying that terms of it Dorothy. What do you suggest?
I heard this before.
It was such a delightful all that we have vast you remember that last in both wear the same position and many missed and some other at that time. There was nobody who had recorded or intended. So it was just a spontaneous. I said, well it was what they spoke to Bob and not to us, but we were permitted to listen to them. So so good very very good.
I'm sure the youngsters would benefit by these things.
Because
Harper always claimed he didn't do Miracles, but as a miracle element in is
I was suffering very badly from acute me grains. It was towards the end of the second World War. I lived in London and I was married to Hugh Kingsmill the writer.
And they became very acute.
And I've been to several doctors and nobody could do anything for me. And so I'd come down to find Stone and
And I was in a desperate State and then someone suggested psycho analysis. I was so ignorant at the time. I didn't even know what psychoanalysis was was very vague about and however a psychoanalyst was found for me and I had been going for about six months and the me grains had stopped vomiting.
And I was feeling fine.
No, no, and then one evening, I figure appeared in my doodle lose you.
I called him the person Prince.
And he started giving me teaching.
Telling me about philosophy and evolution and all the sudden things.
And I was absolutely delighted about this at the time. I was running an East-West group.
I was very knowledgeable about Eastern teachings. I could almost recite the bhagavad-gita and the upanishads by heart. And so this for me was absolutely wonderful. He was he was a an Eastern somebody or other whom I called my Persian Prince actually telling me things that I hadn't even heard gone up into another dimension.
This went on for about a fortnight and I recall it very clearly because it was a Friday which was the end of the five-day week and
I'd taken a fresh batch. I wrote everything down that the person friend said to me took it along to my analyst and on this particular morning. I put it on his desk and he said more of the same I said, yes.
How do you said Dorothy Kingsmill I have to tell you that this has to stop. He said you are trying to evade the truth. You have invented a Yes, Man.
Who agrees with all these ideas you have and
It is my work to make you confront yourself and face what it is that has made you so ill and now that you are recovering from it and everything is going well. Your resistances have invented this figure.
It's these lies. Don't stop. I'm afraid I must stop the analysis.
And I was so stunned. I was so shocked by this but I had enough sense to suddenly say in self-defense look here.
You say these are lies.
If I am inventing.
Oldest material I've been bringing to you the last few days. I don't need to be an analysis. I'm one of the wisest women in the world. You said you're not going to you're not going to get away with that.
I have enough put my foot down and you don't come and see me again until this stops. I staggered out they Consulting room and went back home and although I hadn't had a migraine for two or three months as I stepped over the threshold of my home. I felt nausea sickness and Ami grain descended on me and who Kingsmill sent me?
Bed and
Told me he said I'm got to go out. I'm going to call in the library. Can I get you a book? So I said yes, but nothing to do with philosophy. Nothing to do with religion. Bring me a simple bring me a novel bring me a simple love story and he was gone for some little time when he came back he put a book in my hand. He said that I found this I think you'll be interested and I looked at it.
The title was the perfect Master by Charles.
I like to two pages of and salt so it was that it was a philosophical book and I thought then and in my distress and anger, I just did this needle through the thing that down and it fell on the floor open who can smell was very nice person looked at me very reproachfully for my Bad Manners pick the book up but handed it to me at the page which
Would fall in the open and I looked at it and was about to say I'm so sorry. I was so rude when I suddenly let out a yell. My God is my personal things. Look look look at it the same curls the same expression the same. It's my personal friend smoker.
It was then late Friday afternoon. I'd read the book by Saturday morning. There was will back its address in it and I wrote will back it straight away and the posts were quick in those days despite the fact that there's a war on and on Monday morning. We'll back it rang me up and said
Would you like me to come and see you don't worry about your experiences? And don't worry about your Analyst at the moment. This is how may be a barber works. I said, can you come and see me today? And he said yes, he could so he came and had tea with us and
The war was on I wrote to India, but I was some little time before I got a reply, but meanwhile we'll back it had directed me to Delia de Leon who was then at the caretaker of Florence Nightingale Hospital in London. And so that whilst I was waiting for an acknowledgement from India. I was already getting to know a great.
Deal, I mean will Beckett talk to me and deal was telling me things and she used to have little meetings.
But to go back to how I got back to my analyst.
Two or three days after I had written to will Beckett I had a dream in which my person prints came back and said
Finish your analysis. It's going to be very important to you.
Apologize to your analyst but
If you have any more experiences and this nature do not mention them they are not necessary to the analyst keep them to yourself.
So I followed that I went back to my analyst. I apologized and he accepted it and he fortunately didn't ask me how I had come to this conclusion.
Finished fairly speedily and I was passed out as
Not actually analyzed but cured of me green, which I'm which proposals to I was he the talks I had had killed me and that is how I came to make it happen.
And when I got the letter from India course for about that how I bombarded it with Baba? What does this mean Baba? What does that mean Baba? What is this? How am I to how am I to understand this patiently patiently letter after letter I got explaining, you know, the inevitable question. I mean the perfect Master but who was the perfect master who made that the
Those perfect nice dependent and this sort of thing. So that was how I came to make about what year was that Dorothy? It'll be about 90 between 1943 1944 and when you first met him with what 1952
And then you Kingsmill died in 1949 of a duodenal ulcer and Tom and I married in 1952 and I took Tom I made no attempt to convert Tom to I've never tempted to convert anyone to make a barber. I wait for them to ask and Tom was very busy at the time and I used to tell him that little bits but no more than that.
So now you go on and say how you came to meet Lee.
Well
All my life I've lived.
A very materialistic life
At the age of 21 I gave up.
Anything to do with religion or God?
I didn't I gave up religion I didn't.
Say that God doesn't exist on the country. I thought I thought he rather it rather probable that he did exist, but I didn't think that our paths need necessarily cross. I went my way and I wasn't going to read the feet up even I have to allow me to get on with my 9, but of course he did.
But I began to find that.
My own direction of it was not a satisfactory as I'd anticipated it would be.
And apart from the fact that
My own direction of it was not altogether satisfactory.
I began to be I won't say haunted. I began to have at the back of my mind a particular question.
I have a question took the particular form of words. No reason why it should have done or something to dampen took the particular form of words of asking. Is there a pattern in the carpet?
And I in connection with this. Is there a pattern in the carpet. I had a particular image.
Of a little
Let's call it an ant Little Creatures walking across the floor.
It's can look sideways or forwards but it doesn't look up.
Doesn't look down. It just keeps on going and it comes up all the time against.
Difficulties obstacles places where the going is easy places that seem to be agreeable and aren't cases that seem as though they would be painful but actually lead to some satisfaction or moment for peace of mind and I thought
If I were not in hand.
But a quick set up higher than this looking down would I see a pattern in the carpet and would I then know better how to direct my wife if there is a pattern by following a certain course would I do better than by just going ahead and choosing what I think will give me most enjoyment.
So this question, is there a pattern in the carpet head already come into my mind.
A couple of years earlier than my meeting with father and su su making contact with Dorothy. I met her first just about softly before husband died and was we were just all three beginning to get to know each other a bit. And then after he died Dorothy and I began to get to know each other much better.
And I remember that after a long long talk with jealousy.
At the end of it saying
I've never I've never met anyone in all my life who is so much concerned about the truth As You Are.
And our teacher said to me.
And you what about you? What is your attitude truth? And I thought for a minute and then I say
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Now you something Mary Center Mall. You have a couple over there. Come here. What is she did?
She's in the Army her husband works. She's also working.
You said is that we mean by the couple of there's a couple of bubble lovers there because you know this couple maybe sentiment.
Are there any in Korea, you know, you don't know anything Hong Kong Taipei. The only thing that I know about.
Where did Jim my work? Do you know Vietnam? He told me one day the story believe it or not and is from Jim Myers. So he said I was in the Army and he didn't like the whole thing. But still he walls and you are seated somewhere.
And the street did and he was noticing an old man.
Laboring like anything and it was hot and sweaty and all that the old man was going on and on and on.
And he could not resist looking at him and then stage came when he could not resist just sitting there not taking any notice of them by directly approaching him. So he had to go there try to find out what is he trying to do trying to kill himself like that you're struggling with a pillar you see the post that was there and he was trying to stake in it and pull it properly and against it and it runs digging a pit or something like that deliver quickly as we call it here.
So he goes this and it looks at this old man. He's very old that old man. So he says, what are you doing?
And to his amazement what he sees that he has a baba button on his chest the old man the old man.
So this is so he simply said Mary Baba. That's all nothing more. But still he says to my amazement. I found that this old man. I was so taken aback. You see with pity and all that wanting to comfort him. I went there and the comforters was there on his chest. He says he knows how he was comforting.
Despite to be no. We don't know who are the water how many variables in Korea there's but the sea told us about detail you alone anymore.
I hear there's somebody in Taipei, but we don't have an address for him in Singapore are not going to make the results.
And the public is how you and I never I never mentioned bother again. That's why he needs later something and say and I said States, you know, the filters that come so one of the reporters Bubba pit visit three times, he was around the world three times 13 times. He went outside the
During one of his visits
You are asking the 50s. Maybe know how many disciples you have got all over the world. What's the number of your disciple?
So I was the interpreted.
I wanted to see what is he going to say now how number of his disciples with do we have a counter and think we know account or we don't even know so he that came the reply. He says do you ever intend to come the number of hair on your head? He's putting across question to the little the answer.
It is very easy for bald person to count the number of Heaven.
But
Baba had a lot of him. He always has a lot of hair.
On his head
Because he has abundance of his followers all over the world sometimes in one form or another longing for him calling out to him not knowing whether they're calling out to marry Barbara good Jesus her apart from all the established a twins. There are many many products. They are all his followers.
Google had called a meeting of his workers.
Giving the final draft of a circular to be sent out all over the world calling his nearest and dearest workers.
From all over the world
Deluca subpoena for the summer to be in his company
And we were thinking as to how he would do it and what we need to do and all that because we would see that his health was failing.
Physically, it seemed to me at least but it was not possible because it seemed that it was possible. Why should I feel it that way in the world? So I'm looking at him and see him eventually it so transpired that day that was finalized must they must all come and send out the invitation because the new mutation can be a bother I'll tell me about her to his loved ones and all over the world and each group had a definite period
Come and be with him. How many four days four days she was dead.
Honoring the invitation the god extended they are not see mother did not see and they did and others.
Not in vain, but those who have witnessed that be sitting with him fabulous reduction. It's very easy. I won't be like this that you see now be very strong. How is it possible?
Every day of all days a week and of for two months, it's not just from outside the country. It's from India as well as all over the world.
State should you big groups in in the morning westerners in the evening afternoons easterners like that? You see.
This is why do you always bother about it?
This is well. If I am unable to sit I'll be declining what's there in that doggy? Very strong. And then he one day I was in a very sad mood seeing this. Uh, it's all comforting words that he's giving off that you know, as I told you all the time observing all the time trying to seize it so
Comforting words then he says to me remember I will not let you down.
Go ahead. Let it do. You see he pastored then when he passed away. His body was taken to mehrabad the tomb that is going from here and all that. Well, that was forgot just in two months time. There will be these people will be coming by chartered flights. You see they are already put in the money that one spins for charter flights alone. So at the time where the body was
In state lying there in the inside the Crypt, you know, that group was originally made them just as you have the murals outside on the walls the noodles inside to regulatory. So while the body is still there it was there for seven days.
People come in they say that well, we have to send our cables westerners and come also their albums of the other pills of the so what should we do should become a not that at that moment. His words came to my mind. Why not let it be I shall not let you all down. So I said to them he has extended his invitation. It's left to every individual to accept the invitation of God or rejected.
At the time he is there.
Look Tina. What is it? This is the miracle of the god of the draw. Nothing. Nothing Exquisite. Nothing extraordinary. It is the silent giving of his love without anybody noticing.
Sole supplier of cream to the calendars biggest firm is in India.
Bottom corner
Supplying cream or butter than Jesus when he came in contact, you know how he came in contact her Bible.
Through a vision, you know the story when you know about vagina, then you must know about you know, you know, you know, it is forgotten. Come on baby. No, I don't remember the story that he is briefly please. He saw a vision When Baba was a new life and he sees all
Some great one walking by and says you you come and Supply the stores today. He shows the plane and violin and then the house the go and get all the supplies over the food and all that Jaden.
And nobody was supposed to know that he was coming in this guy. Who is the person who khaki not Allah is the person you see our users father was who knew about his arrival, you know? No she won't.
Not knowing their but he knew the house. He knocked at the house. It was night and the purse cake even the father of hands are opened its what is it? What do you want? This is his there's somebody coming here to this house who has ordered me to get all this. What what all is what it what have you brought? This is no, I haven't got it in see that. So his
House is there it has a tiny compound beyond the compounds the main road. This is the gods are waiting there, please unload. This is what what I try to be your come to a wrong place. Nobody is going to come here. Nobody wants anything who has asked you to bring this. No, no is some mistake some different it is no then somebody who is going to come.
He has lot of people around him and he told me to bring it where it is. Tell you Vision about it. When did you have the vision Series? Where are you? Who are you what are you and so forth then you could not resist he knew that the next day Baba is coming arriving. This is the only one who knew.
That's he says always do one thing. I have my small case, you know, I can't store all this can't even that one Bullock cart inside. You better go and find your resident somewhere outside in an inn or some some place where you can store these things and come to me in the evening tomorrow next day because you know Baba is supposed to arrive in the after e and then he might speak to Baba Baba might burst the subjective. He has called it.
I'll let you know in the evening tomorrow evening.
That's how he went away and then my father said get him to come and see me. That's how all the thing is God and he came and not only that then Baba said what is all as soon as he saw Baba that he was the one.
So he prostrated before Barbara and Bobby didn't like it because it is New Life and we had to pull him up. What is this? What what are you this is you asked me to bring all these things in our bucket. When did I tell you baba? You told me Envision you you were the one who told me to go to that house. And so I've got it. So do you mean to say that we are really the cooks over here who is going to cook who's going to like this?
What do you want if you can cook and I can I get my fun family. This is your of course, you have to go and get the that's how the whole family came and they acted as real Chef since you servants, you know prepare food for high class people in Seoul in contracted to the calendars means what Kevin is a huge firm Factory, you know manufacturing butter and cheese.
Cream and all that sort of leads to give in canned things in it. Have you ever bought any such things can we don't have canned Cheese's that's what all that butter. But also you don't have not candy. That's how it works. He came.
The term about Johnny I'm telling ya Cummings. I didn't know if I'd missed ya so he came and he did that his family came and served. Not only so but cooked would go to the market get the fresh vegetables and clean them and do this and the feast that we had a new life a life of sheer helplessness and hopelessness was and Baba said that our life will be such that he will
Kings would be good envious. That's how we were Beggars and yet we were made helpless and hopeless with the food that we was served to us. We felt that that was such a nice rich food and prepared with such love and surrender. They act the hotspot touch that they are serving the lord himself. So that's how it was so
He was so overpowered with all this this whole situation that was and being constantly in company of Bob and all that in you life. Mind you he didn't know what was happening in knew anything about Baba and say eventually then it was whenever you would ask what happened. What is this? So you'd say Baba John Tory sing. When are you going? Who are we how long you're going to say stay all the answers would be Baba Jani.
From that day onwards you just lost the balance of his mind you see is it babajanian? Anything will die. I'm not saying that you would be the things that would come out of his mind. So that's how to reduce and we didn't just see the degree of surrender. So he said he knew nothing everything. Is he who does it he is the one who is the doer the cause and everything? Who was he didn't know?
Yeah, it's Baba Johnny. So we feel we forgot his name is Tori singing and we used to call him Baba Jani Baba. Johnny said this entire versions, but see how he what happened. Is that after some time I think after about 15 days or 20 days. I forget my exact that he cooked and served in order novices and when satisfied and pleased with you, I'm really very happy. Now you go back and do whatever you like.
Goodbye, so all of the family were sent away and all done by children. They would cook another day all went back.
It was a very sad party for the whole family and then he ordered his family that from today onwards who's the day they arrived let the kitchen of the house be always open to any Wayfarer who comes for food lest. He might come and be my confusion.
So yeah, kept the whole kitchen family continue to cook and kept food ready at all hours of the day and night for all the people who would come so people when they you know how it is for these drawers. Any people any replies any Vagabond can come and eat there was no objection knows nobody stop.
List one day he might come and he might refuse it.
He lost all his wealth in feeding the people start saying his name was Tony sin. Is he still alive? No, he died soon up. Then what happened after some time then of course, he was inducted for a new life in the face called give any faction. He was called again. That's how we came to know about this next phase of his life when he came with her came to us and Baba said,
Now look, you know the know how about it all I want them to do G business give him his clarified butter. So you help them get all the cream that you are supplying to Kevin to stop that and get it here. So that's how it was all calendars so shut down there and we started manufacturing here knowledge. So he was with us for quite a long time. And then when he went back it all continued and then we got his son got married very happy.
We and all that would gradually his wealth dwindled to zero as you say zero credit zero credit and then he passed away happily how he must have been at that time when he passed away. He must have been about nearing 70.
Before Bobbi Kristina the problem
What is key used for I mean, why is it you know why but just imagine butter in this climate will be turn rancid, isn't it? Unless you have refrigeration but household year. They don't have any representations. You see majority of the people nowadays. It's getting involved in who have visited the formally so what they should do. They would go a step further you prepared butter separate separate eyes trained.
I'm from cream you get the butter and the butter is boiled again and made into G. There is certain temperature curve is clarified. So the butter of the water is just evaporates and all that and it's there and that remains to you year-over-year properly kept his taste if you can whenever you want you can take it and cook anything and it has a beautiful.
Awful Aroma is of G. You can get you can get rid of the pure ghee or yes hydrogenated made for the Indian. Yeah. Yeah, if you can fry an egg in that my God what that egg? It is delicious. If you put a little spoon of it you see in doll boil it and give you can be spread on bread like butter.
These children we are still in use even freshly-prepared gives their mothers used to give us so much apathy and sprinkle a little sugar and roll it and cue that would be our afternoon Delicacies in the children loved it. Sometimes it's better with brown sugar. It brings out the flavor of brown sugar as well. As GE is very delicious. Very delicious much better than the smell.
Or whatever you call it the aroma of the butter that you have, you know that but Karis also sent a different thing much better than that only farmers have will be no. Oh, yeah, even that is gone. It's lost. Its now abnormally costly. He is about 50 rupees partner 50 rupees a pound key.
Who's going to buy it? Formerly? It was hardly 5 and is a pound. What's the additional process with the butter all that you do is to boil the butter eat it. But you know there is moisture in it. You see this is boiling their Sunday that little scum the come see us come out small and then but it sure it must have a proper consistency if you go a temperature Beyond it.
Gets burned to see so yeah, so the sukkah is some keyonna. What what do you do?
Yeah, not to be overheated not to be under heated.
Ball that is water. But I know somebody who did that a Syrian lady who always does that to her butter and the things that come out of American buddish said you wouldn't believe the air and the dirt impurities. No don't know but it's good to have clarified butter. You can preserve it without Refrigeration. You can take it whenever you want cook anything and just getting the moisture out. We'll make it last for a year, huh? Yeah.
Yeah provided provided you don't put the spoon there and paste it and then I put the spoon again or take it out you say like this externalized otherwise westerners are prone to put dip your finger. They stood as it's nice to put two fingers in tasted very good three fingers.
Do yeah, it's it is considered to be defined Even in our homes Nobody Does this uses?
Children brought up not to do that not to put your finger. You can put your finger we eat with fingers in your portion of the food but not in the main dish from the did she take it in your office. And then you put your fingers in you can't just take this and eat it like that and you hand over your mouth. Then you have to wash your hands before eating.
But that's formal means what there in the west is he who eats because they have used their gloves and all that. It's always clean. There's no need to wash, you know, you have your cream and all that sort of thing. Don't tell you that we wash before eating but it's all freezing. You know, the water is very cold. We have to watch me eat.
Even that survived spoons and forks. We need water. Why? Why do you why do you have Cutlery there weren't so big. Why do you have Cutlery marriage Louis Tilly the RPM pick it up the European average you watch them go into the dining hall and maybe a quarter of you will wash the hands of the program since I always do Never Say Never.
Five minutes after you wash your hands again. Yeah in this country doing now you sit here see how how the feet are there you go out. I had gone out. Yeah it is this so it is best not gone not to have a fad of washing. But when you want to eat something that you want to put in your system wash it is best to have that tour on safe side. That doesn't mean that you wash anything off or intensive. It is the comfort that is clean for others.
Students because others do not want any your hands to put in dirty hands to touch anything if you take fruit of grapes or anything else or you wash your hands and then do nobody will object it.
Here in India. There was original custom was that you eat in a platter is a huge platter there and we all sit around the platter and if you eat from the same but are eating or so decent that it wouldn't be defiling anybody and we will so we will take a more so and that we won't even put our fingers that with the thumb, you know will push the Marshal. Yeah. Yeah, we have this get up with this is shoveling.
Like that, inhale the see how it is and then shall you shall that's how it was. So naturally we had to be very careful all the elders. Are there the children are there so children are taught. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was the etiquette at the time. All City plates came. Otherwise the glass.
There were no glasses. There was the bowl of water. That was the each one who take and drink. That's why we don't touch it used to drink it that way so that all can drink it you follow all the necessary because you are glasses. You can have a glass for each one of you that's how it is necessity was there at the time it's that's why these customs and traditions are because of the missus now, you all have spoons and knives and forks, and there's no need to wash our until you have
Have you have no time to do all that you do is just rush from your work, you know and like dogs you talk about it and then rushed to the work again in short we have fast food, you know, yeah fast fast, but don't you think we're slow eaters? I thought yeah. I know that you think that much I know that you put in things in the mouth, but you go on munching and chewing we just but we means not
Only meher Baba people who lived with him. Did we Indians the Jew as I this morning? I was telling me, you know, my mother taught me to what what did I say? Eat your water to your drink your food?
Choose so much and missing the saliva that you eventually don't swallow your morsel. But you drink them also the Chinese and the water you have to put it in your mouth and just mix it and then chew it and then gulp it. So that's how it is that keeps you makes you Centenary your opacity or Century hundred thirty years. Ten years. Ten years hundred ten years like that Sababa.
On live to be that long. She really that way right? I didn't know there was no such thing as time. Yeah one never knows. It's a Restless feeling one. Once you're with him. There's a feeling of restlessness in one when we call when he might come here. You might want to you might do this. You can't afford to waste your time.
I'm relishing the food. You're like worse than a dog dining table and he would say that you like that you spoil your stomach very much concerned about his concern was comforting but was it allowed? Was it permitted?
Cunt because anytime he might it will be who spoilt ourselves. We can't save you. Maybe there is there was something in us that the restlessness he might want as he might call her see my do then we will be caught up like that many people who have seen the film's they tell me that what a glutton you seem to be even in front of all you take a piece of cake and he you know that often. Yeah. Baba gives me peace of
Cake and I just put in the mouth and what happened because mouth has to be in your mouth.
Do you have a choke choke choke for putting too much in your mouth? It might be at the time when somebody would ask you see nowadays. We are getting that sensation weakness can do every night. You see he has to just cough and older so now it is be a feeling that because we talked at the time while we have that rapid food inside you see so
Seems that some parts of our anatomy have gone week or something like that. So there is a choking sensation. You have to cough it out and sometimes I have it but invariably paint as you know, follow every night because some people that you know that love must be getting weaker or something and that at the time
I think it has started finish over.
There's a beginning. It's a great comfort.
Everything that's composed must come apart. Isn't that Buddha? So does the world that never did the world have a beginner? Yeah, it has that is the creation not the world.
Everything is the beginning the adventure had a beginning that when person would you repeat that? It is infinite unconsciousness evolving itself into Infinite Consciousness, and it felt like a Mobius Loop.
And he tells me to exactly what the doctor tells you. Now this kind of orders are very difficult. You can do anything for baba, but supposing Bob over to tell me, you know, you please much make her happy when you know, whatever she would like that's quite a different thing. Actually it is for baba. But you see we differentiate we separate we learned that in time anyway at though in those days. We didn't even question and having Barber said
Why you saying it? We didn't even question? Why does Babylon me to go to a doctor? Why does he nothing?
He wants me to go to the doctor. I went do what the doctor said that wretched doctor. I don't know what he's born as now but he's topped my door completely. He said there will be strict diet. No dahle. No dahle of any kind. No doubt of any kind and castor oil every week and boil spinach. I hated vegetables at home. My poor mother would cook vegetables and such.
Various ways and and very delicious. Hmm. I push it away. No use for vegetables either the chickpea flour like bhajiyas and Waters and things or eggs fish and me. So here was it not only delicious spinach but boil spinach and even mirrors at afterwards we'd feel so sorry for you. They are you sad with this bowl of water hot water with spinach in it dipping your fingers bringing out that spinach and eating at you know,
Don't support Naja. She didn't know how to prepare my omelette that was chickpea flour means door million dollars and everything. So she made my omelet out of wheat flour.
And it was a stickiest messes you can imagine rubber. So I've wrote it put it in my mouth and pull I strong teeth them. I was young. I was very hungry. So I know that that's the way I'd had my omelet. This went on for quite some time. And one day Bible said Baba said, no, he doesn't tell me what the doctor would say says you can have Dal and rice from today.
Yes freaked all for you. So I still remember I sat there with a plate of rice and door for me. It was like mutton Biryani or anything. You see now I was happy. I was having rice and daal on its own Merit not as a substitute, which I had asked for. And now this is from Baba mine has been removed. This is from Baba in the same way the point I was trying out of going to make is when
My father lost the case and all the property was wiped out. It was like a clean slate finished. Nothing that they he had earned or was called his was re-elected remaining all white clean. And then Baba sent them something every month to subsist on it was from Baba not from you not for my own self in the same way. This door was not
My attempt to make a substitute give Baba a substitute surrender say all right, no meat. I'll take Don White all that out and that he presented the darkness you have done.
In that same way, we we offer so many substitutes to ourselves and to him because it is no joke giving the real thing. So in his compassion and his Lobby allows it we offer flowers as a gesture and it is from the heart it is with love, but the real flowers are the little sacrifices.
Sacrificing what you would like to what he would like giving those little givings obedience, even when it is not what you would want to do that coconut representation of a coconut of the plaster or at the feet of the Lord the coconut represents the mind to give up the mind to surrender the mind to him impossible. So he allows us to put a coconut with there you see the church
Churches, you see it everywhere. Even at Baba's feet so many of his Hindu lovers become it's a traditional thing. We put the coconut there. So you see he
Actually what he says is don't worry. Don't worry about anything. He'd sit in like that's a why why why why are your head only try to love me and to hold on to me and I shall myself thank God supposing to be near him supposing you'd had to have not a diploma, but I'm supposed you had to have so much knowledge or you want you had to have achievement of so many months of meditation or so much of this stuff.
That where would we be broken down Furniture a very fortunate just to be allowed to be with him accepting us for what we are as long as we are he is totally holy his
I did the come down from the hill get done errors back here. What you say in that that line that you've repeated to share ERS. What do you mean lost with one?
Long ago, you know that reminds me of that last couplet.
I'm slave of the master who has released me from ignorance.
Doesn't say who will release me.
As for weeks, that's right. It's an accomplished now. Just please him be his who has a release.
Talking of that or Baba says is don't worry. It's his habit.
Always he keeps telling us don't worry don't worry, but it's not a habit not to worry, but I have every with me in the old files a telegram Baba had sent to Rob Jew and the writing is an English spelling is an English.
They are better repeat this with us. There's a telegram in my files of ram juice. So this telegram was sent by Baba to rummage around ago. And the right the wording is in English, but it says fika mat Karo fwk are fickle means worry Matt. Mhm at don't and Carol is do Flickr. Mat Karo.
Even in the telegram don't worry side mirror.
I think one of your medicine starting making a song of figure macro Jaber.
Well, Tom, we've used it extensively in Australia. I was telling Tom.
We've just asked permission to print 5,000 copies for Australia, which will distribute almost completely to currently people who write in magazines. Yes. I get all sorts of magazines and I go through and I look at the letters. I think this person could be interested and we've had a very good response. Yes to the book. Yes, there is currently there was
Young young woman who is it is coming out and meetings regularly just over the last month or two. We sent her a book and she she was so taken with a cheery read it and then she immediately searched where she could find more literature and track me down and turned up. Yes. It was. I mean that one book was enough to bring her to Varna.
Well, what what is particularly good about it is that it's 90% Barber because first of all that the first part is Barbara's life and the second part are excerpts from all the discourses put together by me with occasional interlocking sentences so that there's a film
So that the whole book is really is really a bomb and this makes it particularly worthwhile because if you have the in truth of the offer and the author's personality comes in but once there's a yes
Spontaneous little urging on my part
How did you happen to come down to Bob? And then Dorothy? How did you happen to run him? They started speaking of you think their hearts and all the I was really very happy episode to me when I when all of a sudden Dorothy speaks out to Thompson strong. What are you saying? You never told me that before and he started saying that terms of it Dorothy. What do you suggest?
I heard this before.
It was such a delightful all that we have vast you remember that last in both wear the same position and many missed and some other at that time. There was nobody who had recorded or intended. So it was just a spontaneous. I said, well it was what they spoke to Bob and not to us, but we were permitted to listen to them. So so good very very good.
I'm sure the youngsters would benefit by these things.
Because
Harper always claimed he didn't do Miracles, but as a miracle element in is
I was suffering very badly from acute me grains. It was towards the end of the second World War. I lived in London and I was married to Hugh Kingsmill the writer.
And they became very acute.
And I've been to several doctors and nobody could do anything for me. And so I'd come down to find Stone and
And I was in a desperate State and then someone suggested psycho analysis. I was so ignorant at the time. I didn't even know what psychoanalysis was was very vague about and however a psychoanalyst was found for me and I had been going for about six months and the me grains had stopped vomiting.
And I was feeling fine.
No, no, and then one evening, I figure appeared in my doodle lose you.
I called him the person Prince.
And he started giving me teaching.
Telling me about philosophy and evolution and all the sudden things.
And I was absolutely delighted about this at the time. I was running an East-West group.
I was very knowledgeable about Eastern teachings. I could almost recite the bhagavad-gita and the upanishads by heart. And so this for me was absolutely wonderful. He was he was a an Eastern somebody or other whom I called my Persian Prince actually telling me things that I hadn't even heard gone up into another dimension.
This went on for about a fortnight and I recall it very clearly because it was a Friday which was the end of the five-day week and
I'd taken a fresh batch. I wrote everything down that the person friend said to me took it along to my analyst and on this particular morning. I put it on his desk and he said more of the same I said, yes.
How do you said Dorothy Kingsmill I have to tell you that this has to stop. He said you are trying to evade the truth. You have invented a Yes, Man.
Who agrees with all these ideas you have and
It is my work to make you confront yourself and face what it is that has made you so ill and now that you are recovering from it and everything is going well. Your resistances have invented this figure.
It's these lies. Don't stop. I'm afraid I must stop the analysis.
And I was so stunned. I was so shocked by this but I had enough sense to suddenly say in self-defense look here.
You say these are lies.
If I am inventing.
Oldest material I've been bringing to you the last few days. I don't need to be an analysis. I'm one of the wisest women in the world. You said you're not going to you're not going to get away with that.
I have enough put my foot down and you don't come and see me again until this stops. I staggered out they Consulting room and went back home and although I hadn't had a migraine for two or three months as I stepped over the threshold of my home. I felt nausea sickness and Ami grain descended on me and who Kingsmill sent me?
Bed and
Told me he said I'm got to go out. I'm going to call in the library. Can I get you a book? So I said yes, but nothing to do with philosophy. Nothing to do with religion. Bring me a simple bring me a novel bring me a simple love story and he was gone for some little time when he came back he put a book in my hand. He said that I found this I think you'll be interested and I looked at it.
The title was the perfect Master by Charles.
I like to two pages of and salt so it was that it was a philosophical book and I thought then and in my distress and anger, I just did this needle through the thing that down and it fell on the floor open who can smell was very nice person looked at me very reproachfully for my Bad Manners pick the book up but handed it to me at the page which
Would fall in the open and I looked at it and was about to say I'm so sorry. I was so rude when I suddenly let out a yell. My God is my personal things. Look look look at it the same curls the same expression the same. It's my personal friend smoker.
It was then late Friday afternoon. I'd read the book by Saturday morning. There was will back its address in it and I wrote will back it straight away and the posts were quick in those days despite the fact that there's a war on and on Monday morning. We'll back it rang me up and said
Would you like me to come and see you don't worry about your experiences? And don't worry about your Analyst at the moment. This is how may be a barber works. I said, can you come and see me today? And he said yes, he could so he came and had tea with us and
The war was on I wrote to India, but I was some little time before I got a reply, but meanwhile we'll back it had directed me to Delia de Leon who was then at the caretaker of Florence Nightingale Hospital in London. And so that whilst I was waiting for an acknowledgement from India. I was already getting to know a great.
Deal, I mean will Beckett talk to me and deal was telling me things and she used to have little meetings.
But to go back to how I got back to my analyst.
Two or three days after I had written to will Beckett I had a dream in which my person prints came back and said
Finish your analysis. It's going to be very important to you.
Apologize to your analyst but
If you have any more experiences and this nature do not mention them they are not necessary to the analyst keep them to yourself.
So I followed that I went back to my analyst. I apologized and he accepted it and he fortunately didn't ask me how I had come to this conclusion.
Finished fairly speedily and I was passed out as
Not actually analyzed but cured of me green, which I'm which proposals to I was he the talks I had had killed me and that is how I came to make it happen.
And when I got the letter from India course for about that how I bombarded it with Baba? What does this mean Baba? What does that mean Baba? What is this? How am I to how am I to understand this patiently patiently letter after letter I got explaining, you know, the inevitable question. I mean the perfect Master but who was the perfect master who made that the
Those perfect nice dependent and this sort of thing. So that was how I came to make about what year was that Dorothy? It'll be about 90 between 1943 1944 and when you first met him with what 1952
And then you Kingsmill died in 1949 of a duodenal ulcer and Tom and I married in 1952 and I took Tom I made no attempt to convert Tom to I've never tempted to convert anyone to make a barber. I wait for them to ask and Tom was very busy at the time and I used to tell him that little bits but no more than that.
So now you go on and say how you came to meet Lee.
Well
All my life I've lived.
A very materialistic life
At the age of 21 I gave up.
Anything to do with religion or God?
I didn't I gave up religion I didn't.
Say that God doesn't exist on the country. I thought I thought he rather it rather probable that he did exist, but I didn't think that our paths need necessarily cross. I went my way and I wasn't going to read the feet up even I have to allow me to get on with my 9, but of course he did.
But I began to find that.
My own direction of it was not a satisfactory as I'd anticipated it would be.
And apart from the fact that
My own direction of it was not altogether satisfactory.
I began to be I won't say haunted. I began to have at the back of my mind a particular question.
I have a question took the particular form of words. No reason why it should have done or something to dampen took the particular form of words of asking. Is there a pattern in the carpet?
And I in connection with this. Is there a pattern in the carpet. I had a particular image.
Of a little
Let's call it an ant Little Creatures walking across the floor.
It's can look sideways or forwards but it doesn't look up.
Doesn't look down. It just keeps on going and it comes up all the time against.
Difficulties obstacles places where the going is easy places that seem to be agreeable and aren't cases that seem as though they would be painful but actually lead to some satisfaction or moment for peace of mind and I thought
If I were not in hand.
But a quick set up higher than this looking down would I see a pattern in the carpet and would I then know better how to direct my wife if there is a pattern by following a certain course would I do better than by just going ahead and choosing what I think will give me most enjoyment.
So this question, is there a pattern in the carpet head already come into my mind.
A couple of years earlier than my meeting with father and su su making contact with Dorothy. I met her first just about softly before husband died and was we were just all three beginning to get to know each other a bit. And then after he died Dorothy and I began to get to know each other much better.
And I remember that after a long long talk with jealousy.
At the end of it saying
I've never I've never met anyone in all my life who is so much concerned about the truth As You Are.
And our teacher said to me.
And you what about you? What is your attitude truth? And I thought for a minute and then I say
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