Eruch Jessawalla & Mani S Irani - The Onion Go Down
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That be a wolf family. He would have every letter read up to him. I know that even from the beginning he started.
Me on this they wanted me he pushed me to it. So that in that way I could really say it's from Baba to all all of his children because after it was done it was read to him Harris would read out to him and I'd be called and barber said that is the best but then when I found each one was the best it means he was satisfied. He would add he would delete he would say, no, not this
I put that in what about this message and then it would suppose all the time going from him and then when I say I know I was done because after a while even the family lets us group more of my time would go in that and I would discuss with Eric some points with a Francis and all and then I can type out in between whenever I had time and by the time the completed thing got done it took quite some time. So I tell myself heave a sigh of relief.
I won't even think about it for another month. At least you see and in 15 days Bible would look at the new very innocently said and she writing another family letter Baba. So we just can't is very chewy. I mean, so just reach them two weeks ago. Oh, yeah, two days later. Oh you have a busy you were writing the family legend that that really was.
He did to you what no doubt.
I would sit sometimes.
In a room here in which you keep onions is to keep a lot of onions. It's the onion go down. We call it. We still to this day call it the onion go down all the now the onions I think I placed somewhere else plus here, but it is to be full of onions. So when I couldn't type here for some reason, I forget I would go into that room. Somehow managed to put a little tip boy there and a chair and do my typing of the family.
Is there and I think the ammonia probably gave me inspiration more than I would think but I would keep incense sticks there and and I could watch I could watch Barbara's dot the monthly hauled off from their see so I could know when Bob was coming out I could rush hour and then
We had forgotten one thing that that room is the room Baba first sat in seclusion in Meredith. And first we came to matters add Bob established his home here and his base here because many many years were spent. In fact in one place without traveling Bob has spent more time in perizaad than anywhere else. I didn't realize that that's the room.
Baba said in seclusion when he first came to Meredith by itself before we came and settled here, but there is a bubble Ava will be called tribute Will Davis he is so close to trees and plants and things that people refer to them as she as he he would touch a tree and say, oh he's good. He's good and then he touched some woods somewhere and
That he was saying this is good for some you would so when when he came over with me to that side with onion good armoires for some for some reason he touched the wood and said oh, this is good. This is at that time. I said, well, he's crackers. I'm in this good as an old door. This wood is just an old door and the paint peeling off and I thought this tree in Living Wood is something but that's also right now I can take things with a grain of salt.
Even as I thought that in a Flash another flash came to me, but he's right that is when I remembered this is the room Baba said in seclusion in and so this room really has that he felt him.
Yes, he's good that dog.
Said room still here the onion room. Yes. Oh, yes.
That's that last Green Door.
It has a lock on it. Just right across here.
Do you remember which one bubble visited?
Avatars about in 1958. He stayed at the Bellevue Hotel and wisdom that hotel has been demolished but it's all been done in the name of progress.
But do you know that I have an interest in making LED lights stained glass and I particularly like getting old doors stripping them of their paint and restoring putting LED light in them. I've done a lot of them and I was I often would go to Brisbane to the demolition yards. These are the companies that demolish the building and then sell the second-hand materials and I was fortunate
One day to go to the demolition yard that had demolished the Bellevue Hotel and bought five of the doors from the hotel which I have sold two of them now to Baba lovers who were building their homes on my road and they put on a show.
But when we talk of trees, I record something that was unusual to say the least when we were in satara and Baba wasn't for a while in an old place but marriage which was what was the name of the place Bob was with Alicia.
The Mast wasn't Jag rila, it was not but no, but it's why you're late.
Book as Bangla probably I don't know if it's an older little place a rooms couple of rooms man was so Bob was in seclusion there and the must Alicia was within that gentle beautiful mask you have seen pictures of him, but gentle Biden beard and he would so Mara and I were told to go and see him twice a week.
Some some period like that. Otherwise, it was an absolute seclusion. None of the others could say so once when we went there along the walk to look at them lovely walks in satara. We walked to the place we've been in with Baba see the bubbles showed us Alicia and just sat around Baba asks some things and outside that house was a big tree a fresh green tree with lovely fresh green leaves. We always remembered that like,
Before you enter you see that tree and one day as we came out of Barbara's room to go back to our place Grafton. We saw that the tree was broken the top of the tank was broken. There was a that been a a sort of a window to it and there was a live fire.
There was a friend not just a frame there was a fire but the the trunk was green the leaves that Brian that had fallen down was green the rest of the leaves on it with green and here it was a bright fire love. It was a lovely sight to see this fire blazing and a green green tree. So when we told baba, but I think we had we went back the next day and barber said that was
How is what?
That was a spark that flew out from the work he was doing that was the significance of it was his work. That's the only thing you said and I realized that that's why we cover was terrifically unusual just to see it. And then of course we listen to these lines of the gazelles, which was sent to Baba and here's this lover who said who says
Who has this glass of wine it sort of divine significance. I mean is not meant in the sense that we understand it. But here the lover has this glass of wine at the Beloved is poured and he holds it and in the agony of his love the tears have fallen into the glass and mixed with the wine. So this lover tells someone don't touch my glass.
Are your hands will burn?
There is the fire of my love has mixed with the wine. Don't touch it things like that. We we cannot even have a glimpse and barber tells us that Divine love is an ocean of fire that it is. No joke, but this path is not for the weak-hearted the faith cited and that is why it is the real Warriors of those who can go through this this this path in this life in obedience in love.
And then there was this other song in which the pigeon says the pigeon that's carrying.
At message and note from the lava to the Beloved the carrier pigeon and the lover says that the pigeon that was carrying my my my note to my beloved the pigeon was burned because of the fire that was in in the pain the words that I wrote It's that's why Barber used to when he would talk about by John and he would say
She was Emperor and that that was not not for the faint-hearted that you have. She was real man in the real sense. And that is why Baba taught himself herself never referred to herself or allowed anybody to refer to her as a woman imagine. She would have been called Imagine by rights in the ordinary way, but she was Baba.
Can anybody did call her imagined? She would be at the but that
And that's what papa says when that happens. That is nothing to say nothing you it's his silence then and the and the illustration which I've said a number of times have I would say we want to know through the mind that which is beyond the mind which mind cannot touch but we can only take it in through the mind so we asked him for explanations of things.
Which are beyond the mind to please give it to us so we can take it through the night. So Baba one day said because he is so compassionate it comes to our level he gives, you know to each one in as we can digest at this wicked taken but he says that it once he gives us illustration. He said supposing supposing a child were to come to you someone grown up and married was sitting before him, but the question was going on.
Between him and bottom. So Baba said supposing a a child comes to you and says tell me tell me all about marriage.
How could you tell when the child grows up? He will know from his experience what marriage means what sex means what white means all that. She will know then there will be no no question once he knows that is nothing to question. But if you were to ask you, what would you say how you can say, but how would you make the child know that you can tell the child about the wedding?
You can tell him that the bride wore that is the groom did that and the Mother-in-law cried and the cake was so big and what it contain and the rate was such and such and the lace was from Italy in about was making these gestures. I'm making the words. Oh the Bible says when you ask me, I'm really telling you about the wedding.
But when inside you you know of that marriage, then there are signs. There's nothing to ask nothing to say.
Father when he would even explain like that, it was Simplicity itself because truth is simple mama said once seated right here something had happened and Bible said it is so simple that is almost impossible.
Because we cannot take the simple. We must have some shape. We must have trimmings. We must have both we must have color. We must have something that which attracts so naturally but the real is so simple.
So then Bob would say things like that to me. They have been the real service real discusses casually like like this that I just described or like somebody who always was harping on God realization. We don't even know what we're talking about when we talk of things like that and and ask him to you know, just to tell you but but what can you tell so so when this person is always somebody visiting by the way none, who are
Being with him at questions and if they had because somebody else had a question. So this person was there and again, you know, very late to talk about the God realization is that God realization and Papa said to him there were no carpets here, by the way, it's just Shabbat stone flooring. We have a stove Glory underneath this so Papa just pointed to that and he said you see that
The man look yes. Yes. Yes Stone and Bob has asked him a question. What is the difference between that stone and you as a person hand so he knows that that's a lotta different Stone and me. He said exactly said Baba that is the difference between you and a god-realized state.
After that the man who never brother.
The time when he told Mother and mother was a pain to find the cheese fasting and not eating that is observing silence because his voice was beautiful even his detractors, even our community who harassed mother so much in the beginning who couldn't take him to be what he is and who
Really, but all are to have as mother because she was his mother even they conceded that is true. He had a beautiful voice. Yes.
And then they would look like and they say well, even when we were doing our work cooking washing dishes no matter what we would hear him sing them on a job in Persia. We would stop to listen and then they would come down to earth and say but that's not enough. That's not enough to give himself airs as to who does he think he is so they couldn't take it. Yes. So so even at paint mother the chair
He should observe silence in prison is voice no longer talk saying he loved doing that and also that he would fast you see that picture. The last one on the left that is after a long fast, but that does not mean that Bob would sit in a room fasting but was more energetic but we would do everything. I mean you have to keep running after him as a matter fact we still do but you know, Bobby was just so
Vibrant, but then it pain mother as to see her son fasting being on silence. So at that time all those around by were very young and so mother one day said maril. Why do you have to fast? Why do you have to keep the silence? You have nothing to gain? So you're doing it for them? That's what you say. So why not make that do it make this should surround Jamaican, dude.
Then observe silence made them up the observe fast and then Papa said something.
He said it'd be all but you see gestures we interpret to our understanding or to the circumstance in which these gestures were made, but this could have meant the universe. This is all around him. This could mean the whole world. This could mean the whole universe. Anyway, this was his gesture. He said if own observed fast, but the rest of their lives
It wouldn't equal one day of my fast and it all observe silence for the rest of their lives. It wouldn't equal 1 hour of my silence.
And mother didn't say anything after that. So you see that these
That he does for us on our behalf. But because he's Perfection as I said, the fruits are perfect. We could do it whole lives all together all of us together. It wouldn't equal one day of his fasting. So if he fast for months, just imagine what we reap.
What Harbors does hours from his doing all from the cylons? That's why when Baba gave silence to somebody and that person wanted to continue silence Carlos angry guy means I Splash she said You observe silence only when I tell you that has meaning and then he also explained that when you have silenced yourself your desire is and last greed and anger and all.
Even as a person only then you're observing silence can have any meaning except when it's for me.
By the 10th July or when I tell you to keep silence and the same thing for the fast when you are faster yourself inside so that there is nothing then if You observe first it has it has a fruit. Otherwise the Baba said is good. If you keep silence, it will help everybody else you talk too much anyway.
Yes these little 7th and there's the one which everybody I think that's heard so many times and I think Dara has on his tape at The Hive times but some of you might like to hear this because errors always reminds me about this assault was shot. You know, we had a Cocker Spaniel.
His name was Peter. He was.
Very much with Baba even on his travel since 1953, which is when we got him in Missouri. He was second in Bob has affection for pets first was must an epic that dog but this little Peter wise little fellow who was always with Bobby whatever Bob would go for a walk or when he would come from there from the women's side to be in the mandalas Hall in the mornings and in the afternoons potato was there before in flapping his long ears and he would then
Come and lie down about us. We talked about a set right here and he had a habit of snoring very much like a human skull. In fact, I was stunned one day when I was in Bobby's room and we women were sitting seated around him and I was reading out one of the books Tolkien or would also direct style to something and I have to snore and I said, I can't believe it Baba she did before us.
Hey, who's that snoring? I looked at nausea. No, she had her eyes closed, but she wasn't asleep. I looked at each of them and suddenly I realized the snow was almost underneath my chair and that was Peter. So what kind of sleep here and snore and and whenever to somebody had to show Baba something across there to go across Peter. Everything had to be done A cross B. There's a bottle would lean over and they would lean around. So Bob called me one day. They should be two bills at the
Monthly Hellgate this big door a bigger one was for go home run by the wanted to her and it would ring that Bell when Barbra wanted me there was this smaller belt. So one day my little bell rang. I rushed from where I was doing some typing Baba was seated here and it's love at this look at this fellow and he was snowing Peter was snowing right at his feet. We all laughed and as a publisher like taken away. Does it disturb you?
Let the Mugabe labor. So I meant just two days later again the bell rang again. I was called so I'm in the little bell rang and I came again. It was the same scene that was Barba seated here. And there was Peter line at his feet and disturb. You mustn't just lie quietly and snoring he was dreaming and he was excited and I was his paws were going so far.
Just that had been cycling at the 50 miles an hour in very fast, and it was very excited and he was making all this stuff.
And as Bob was so fired that the year came forward and what I was completely covered, you know that actress care about others and karakasa. Well, he was like that. He was very excited and I thought again just to show me. You know, how I'm using all this is but then the opposite something which track me later.
As mother of my little as as one of his simple sermons as I call it like the ones that I described to you now and Baba looked at him and said look at it. He thinks some wild animal is chasing him or he's been chased by wild animal and he's Crossing through the desert over the mountains.
Crossing rivers and is just just bubbles doing and he he thinks that's what all he's doing and yet all the time. He is safe and sound at my feet.
After I'll bust go and I went and then it struck me as the Bible saying is that's what we go through. We think we're going to roll this some look what we're doing and all this is happening and help and every purpose is don't worry because all the time we are safe and sound at his feet.
There is he would go with Baba also for walks and sitaram and David would go over and I would come in the afternoon when he would return. He would tell us some funny things that Peter did and Bobby said Peter thinks he's a cat he goes up a tree and then it did go up to the tip of the branch ones, but he couldn't turn around and then even proud.
And always used to take baths in that farm.
Yes, you know that reminds me of the family. We got Peter from as a very interesting story. Just one little story now. I have to go we were in, Missouri.
All the arrangements a beautiful house there and we went from there then good Baba for some days and he had put on the door sill on the top and at the entrance of a whole big straight from a bush of yellow roses a whole Branch filled with yellow little yellow roses. Wild yellow roses with never seen that and that's what we thought at first that it's not.
Not real and then we found that it's real that everywhere you go on Missouri and the path. The hedges are just rose bushes. And Rose Hedges made of that. Anyway, when we were there, it was only here beautiful place. If we went any further up to this Outhouse, we could see the top of some of the Himalayan Mountains so below us as we had to go down the hill to get on the road and go for walks. There was another
Bungalow a cottage but there were two sisters they were English mrs. Mccleod and Miss Cooper. Oh Cooper we don't know her name her initials LL O Koopa, so we got friendly on the way, you know, nothing about that book. We were not we were told not to say and we never mentioned about who he is or what they must have seen him go down. They must have been chosen but no time so she
I'd say how her name was LL kuta but that the Indian necessary worked with the people the help us she wept with but couldn't pronounce El Oso. They would say yellow Koopa and she would tell them I anything but yellow anyway, her sister. Mrs. McLeod had this cocker spaniels and they have those cocker spaniels had a litter of puppies and they got most of them away all of them away except Peter.
Somehow mrs. McLeod said he was special. She wouldn't even leave Missouri in the winter because who would look after the tells her pets it was that kind of thing. Now mrs. This Del L Cooper had been linen Keeper in a big hotel in Agra. So she said she met all the big personalities many of them. She met the other calm there and Errol Flynn and all kinds of names she'd said and one day she said and now
Now met her father. I have met mad because she saw him. Goodbye. She knew the name, but we didn't talk about an engine a Cheban. Anyway, we've got this little Peter from them. I won't go into that because once I get into that story, it's a long story. But then later when we went back to dehradun Peter coming with us and all and it was a bungalow and one day we were seated with Baba in the hall and suddenly this lady walks in
And we were amazed to find that it was mrs. Cooper. Hello Cooper. She just walked in with a surprise. I was reading something to bother and she walked up to Baba and put out a hand Baba shook her hand shake hands with her and said, I'm happy she sat for a while. We just talked to things and then she said well bother I must go fine. So she went again to Baba put out a hand Baba standing up the to put out a hand.
And when Bobby put his hand in hers, she quickly took it and put it on her head flat and said bless me bother we were amazed and Bible said yes and pressed his hand on her head. She walked out. We never saw her again and very shortly after that. She died because I still keep in touch with us and pictures of Peter and all but you see when you're so blessed. So fortunate you can
Because I wanted to do that what must she must have known we never spoke of it. So she finds out the house were living in dehradun. She comes all the way there walks up to Baba Texas hand puts it on her head bless me mother.
I was the kid I think it was about 9 years of age and I don't know what made my parents go there. But later on I hear that my uncle maternal uncle.
My mother's home is here and I'm an American colonies. Yeah, yeah. Yeah at that time. It was a huge place. It belonged to some mohammedan and it's known as Akbar Akbar Paisa bar at the rally was the owner of it was cotton and ginning Factory carpet Factory. They stood guard the cotton ginning.
Take this cotton seeds are and then it was also guarding engineering and pressing it would press into Bales and then export send out to the mills for weaving and all that other thing. So it was a big Factory you here and this is a cotton area that needs to grow not now.
What's a my maternal grandfather was the manager and engineer employed pleased to be here and matching the children grew up my mother grew up to she had her education in Clara Bruce school here that is there. If you notice the board now going, you know, there is a somebody selling books, you know these comics and all that in that same compound. Clara blue is around. Yeah that old.
They used to study. The my uncle's is to study in different schools and all the when they grew up they are from another so my mother grew up she married and she went away with her husband natural so be but away from home at NADA, but my uncle's remained in a Madonna they were going there is some BK some were employed.
In Bombay and some got the employment here in another and one of them became a political leader.
So they were all here.
One day they my mother seems to have received a letter from one of the uncle is here saying that oh
Guess we met.
And there she did he describe their that was demoted subtle personality. You see reminders reminded us of zoroaster having come again.
So my mother's enthusiasm was fired because she was also you see she had studied the lives of the great ones the Saints great ones means not their leaders aren't events of the Saints and all that. She had that inclination from a young age to see these people serve them. Love them. She was a God-fearing woman my mother
I still have the wrong misnomer to say God-fearing because there's nothing to hear. She was a god-loving person. He always used these terms God-fearing and all that. It's not that really speak. It is God loving person.
So
When she hope this her heart wanted to just come back and see who the person is.
And my uncle who is the oldest who was of course, he's no more. He was much older than my mother and he was of it. He was a choice of it.
And he had a huge library and every now and then you tutor my mother and my mother would just listen to his stories and listen to him and revered him not as brother loved him not his brother but revered him somebody great saintly person. He was a bachelor and but he was on a very big Post in one of the moons in aqua regia mama.
So
She told my Uncle he was with her at the time different place. This is the letter to my uncle of course took it with him. Well, he didn't scoff at the I thought of it but you know how curious of his son they are. Very guarded you see in trying to believe anything other than God himself.
So yeah, there are people that are saintly people and all that. We shouldn't jump to conclusions unless we recall we test them that was the bent of Mind of my uncle but my mother was quite different.
So the first opportunity that was afforded was the Christmas holidays that needs to get in the British regime. It was not just one or two days. The children would get a month's holiday that would cover up not only Christmas but also New Year and and further.
So she was waiting for that as soon as we had a Christmas vacation and she gathered her children and came to ahmednagar and when she was there no mother naturally usually the Christmas time.
Are the children's would have to have holidays. So her sister's children her own children of brother's children. They were all gathered in a family home here Salva press
My grandfather was still the manager and engineer still working there that compound that you see now is it has lost lost its beauty. Otherwise, it would be like heaps of snow there, you know cotton all all moms of cotton would be there a very nice atmosphere was that there was also shared their big Orchard was there in the compound all that is
Now it has been rented and all the factories are come up and nothing would come and sit in the garden and Orchards and enjoy picnics and all that. So
What had happened was when my mother came she enquired from my uncle's is when he wrote to us. We'd like to go there. Where are you taking us the day that she arrived. This is oh, he just he just came yesterday with all the children at the time there were boys in Pre mushroom boys, and also Baba would come bring them and have a nice picnic their attack Barbara's Oceanside. We missed them. We should go there. So this is already been go.
So that's how my uncle's provided at the time. There were no buses running or edges is a primal distance. You know, we did have horse tonga's you see and you'll miss the site of the tongass that we had at the time. There were two horses in Tonga broader ones there but now they are no more involved. So they were more commodious then the little contraption that you see you still see tongue has no horse carriages.
They are known as tonga's but one halls but they were two horses also and they were tonga's of Bullock size bottles were used to draw give a cushioned and all that sort of thing. Yeah, you saw it last that side because they are out of work now, so there were bullet and Dark Horse dongers this single tonga's the depending upon how big the family is but apart from all this the families who could afford they used to have the horse carriages also personal.
Victoria's we call them Hackney carriages Holyoke on during the scary about five people can be easily sit like a car horse of yours. So that's we are two of them because big big family there to know they arranged and the family all the my uncle's my aunts. My-my mother and the children who were the
Well, we are driving we get into these carriages but you're asking me how I met so now the story is that when they entered the carriages there was no room for me.
You know, I was a big one so too. It's no good. No good occupying lot of space to could they occupy is instead of me. So if my mother says why don't you get out from there and sit on that the back the back where the boom stands there's a stand holding an umbrella and all that. So now and little flat piece the semester is going to sit there. There is no room here because if you don't sit here that to others will say hi to Big planning.
How old are you? How old are you? I was about nine nine years about so that's how it was. I sat there I enjoyed is nice right legs dangling and all that. No, no encumbrances around you see ya Breezy. So the horse carriages are moving horses are taking us faster and faster and all that.
And I don't know what's happening inside the carriages. They're having a chat in conversation all that. You know, how when especially when this arrest you in family all together loud noise same like juice talents talents to okay, then we are all of the same feather.
So that's how it is. So all of a sudden I hear.
My name my mother shouting my name since energetic jump jump.
And so I without taken unawares you see how the first thing that I used to do is to carry out what my mother says. So I just jumped from that running carriages and when I jumped it was in the opposite direction the momentum is this way and I jump this way means what happens I go flat on my yeah. I don't have the direction to carry on with the momentum.
So I fell flat on my back severely bruised my elbow.
And Charles bleeding. And in the meantime The Carriage is went further and the stopped I can see that and why did my mother asked me to jump here? I don't know. I was surprised myself. So I am just you know, I'd fall when I kill. Luckily. I had good pads. So I didn't matter anything was not it was Bruce but not know bones are cracked or broken or anything, but egg this elbow.
It's terribly bruised. It was Wounded Heart hurting much and blood is dripping there. So I carry my elbow and I'm walking the distance where they are. I don't know where they are going and where why are we leaving? We were told that we are going out for five miles right or something like that. It says children. Okay. So when I go there all are settled around a certain person I see
Who has spotted like this you see who was there?
And there are so I'm going there and I don't know where some the person looks at me and signs there what happened? So somebody says what happened to you. So I told this person that is Baba I said I fell down and I hurt my elbow and it's leaking you bleeding. So Bobby called me and made me sit on his lap and he cut.
Me and what their fondled me and says don't don't worry. Don't cry and he took a hit he bent down and there was the to nip it in front of him that donated that is there on the platform. It was not that the original place. It was somewhere near the roadside at that time.
And he was sitting here. They're all around him as we said here. There are people there.
So he took the ash from there. He dad getting all that. I don't know what he did. He did this in something and took out her handkerchief from there. He must be having handkerchief like serving the stuck there. We got it out and he bandaged my arm this elbow joint and sit down must be too heavy after a while. This is sit here. That's how it works. That was my first meeting with him.
I don't know what transpired but the first thought that I had was his really loving kind person. Nobody even from my family budget orange and the sudden nobody cared for it. So that's how it works. I fell for her. I'm sure you made the jump the recollection is on either side. There was slates at that time and Baba was conversing with this later. He was funny for me. It was nice fun exciting.
To see this man doesn't stock others are all talking and he's silent and he's writing one slave and then somebody reads and the Slate is puts their somebody's clearly said you're raising. Their another slate is taken. It's like that that that picture is still there. But the thought that I had of him was very nice person kind of person as a child loving loving kind person.
That's the first meeting. You don't know to this day why she said jump. I know you're I asked of course. I'm not that to leave her like that when I went back home.
Naturally, I had my band is this that cause if I don't know where that kerchief is now, so I told my mother she's not naturally they took great care of me while returning now so they made me sit there. So while I when I went back home when I was with my mother I asked her so why did you ask me to jump there are still times distance had to be crossed in a why did you do that?
So, you know the funny answer she gives me at the time and still she is that time. So my mother says that at that time the pointed out to me look he's sitting there and as ice my eyes fell on him.
The thought that occurred to her at the time was that how would Barbara feel if we are trying to overload the horse because the whole family yeah. So at Lee's are all the thought was that I'm my presence was the one that was the heaviest spared the horrors, but kill the child.
We're very good to our horses. I said, is that the way yeah, that's the Tata crab.
To see how the mind works. How did it come to be that you end up being with your nine years old and you met him but you didn't stay with him. No, then what happened is it was Christmas vacation? I Told You So vacation means children making sure she knows what happened with Zach. He never remained here or here. He was playing here the jumping and all the supposed to do that whenever every now and then back out call us there.
My mother would want to go every now and then so we'd go there but we won't be nearby but only at the time when he would go all out, you know, so our lunch is he so we'll all be there with the plates on first enroll or tea time. I still remember those days. You know, what delicious taste was there just simple Dal and rice, but it was with condiments be call it, you know some bar type nice and spicy. No nothing Chutney and spices rice and
Dull but it was vertical season. What do you call it spice spice spice seasoning. Yeah seasoning was there so just that the answer. Is there any English name for it? So that was the Bago take the spoon and you have aluminum plates with heaps of aluminum case each one or two take their element and hand. Yeah and thus much I is to eat is in borrowed give me that we used to relish.
The tea time was the best time because at that time people would bring sweets and our baskets of sweets would come home and stuff. Yeah, it's like yeah not this is a stingy person. It's not in my nature to accept that you see if you want to give me give me enough so that here so that I can have my fill all of my just puts one biscuit there. I don't know where it goes. It just disappears in my mouth.
So at the time Bobby is to do handful of jail bees or sweets like that is so it was nice to you. And that was the center of Attraction not Baba for us. Chill chill at least for me. It was as I told you I was Glutton how I ate the apple and all that. So it was fine. It was Paradise for me to play there and nice there were many kids around and all so teatime lunchtime we were
The first to be near the person who served and that person happened to be Baba later on for me in my house. I registered like this.
I was some person who is to give us good food and all that. But every time you see the ttrt time malaria was rampant here in this area in those days. So Baba would at that time there were no capsules or tablets of Queen. I we had powder.
I don't need to import this probably huh. Y9 quinine you call it. We call killing. So what with that sweet he will give a pinch you see of quinine in a queen and but with children he wouldn't do that knowing that they would throw it off. So what they'll say open your mouth if you want the sweet, that's sweet was there you see the attraction of this.
She'll open her mouth. So you put the bitter powder there and the whole mouth will become so bitter and all this is now we'd bow our city. He will be C. But for a long time, it won't go that bitterness to just be there. But this quantity of sweets will be so such that it would gradually overcome the bitterness and mouths will become sweet and that was even attraction, but that was the only part which I
Like near Barbara's know my in my childhood.
So that's how it was. So here's this passed by and we will go back to our school and all that's how it was. I went back to school. Formerly. I was a border in a sick my father had an appointment with government. He was employed by the British government. So he was now on a big post. So my father thought that it's not good for for the child to be a border now he
Have a property can establish himself at one place have a home and all that. So my mother and my two years Kid sisters and myself are now brought in mid comfortable in over a property and we had a bungalow to luminol the spine. So I was put in a school schools at that time with such you know, those years were such that only missionary schools were considered to be the best the rest of the
The schools were not good they when schools but if you want to have your children good education, you should have put them in Mission School missionary schools. Well fathers and brothers would come from Germany and Italy and France and all that. So my father holding such a responsible position loving me the only son, you know how it is when I said we must have good education.
So he put me in that school, although it was at the time too. It was considered to be a bit costly Affair. So I was put there.
And I enjoyed the only thing was that all were Catholics Roman Catholics, and I myself was non-catholic.
So these Catholic boys would treat me as a heathen, you know, they will even call they don't call me a non-catholic on the a he do talk among themselves as those heathens heathens. First of all, I didn't understand the meaning what they mean by heathens and all are gradually I began to understand however by this time I'm nine and a half years 10 years old boy. I can understand all these things. I can see that how we are.
Considered to be different from them and all that and we were according to our standard of living at that time. We were not at all different they were different from us is because my standard of living was such is he and they these refracts called me this that's how the youngster you filled in the mind. But still there was no way out the education was there had to be taken and
The teachers were good kind very kind people so it when I pulled on some years to three year to two years and third year of it was made compulsory. You know, there was that life of Jesus, you know, we call them scripture classes and Catechism classes. So that's how it was it was you forced to take no on the contrary see heathens when I suppose not supposed to take the
Glasses but on the contrary what we had there was a punishment for us. So we had to change our seats and go back behind the class backbenchers.
We had to be there and then revise our lessons and these Catholics would come in the Forefront and they will attend the classes and you just imagine you'll be all passed through that stages. Yes children. If you are supposed to tell the go and revise lessons that the back would you want to do it on the contrary? They say you play a lot of mission and Mischief seems to be my one of the traits you see in my younger age. I used to play a lot of Mischief that with a purpose.
The stubbornness you want me to sit quiet? I won't sit quiet, you know you all know that so when the classes are being held and dissolves solemnity and seriousness, you know, I could hear the venial sins and the cardinal sins and all that hell and heaven being to who cared for hell and heaven one peanut you see with go and hit somebody's here and
Doing that is in look somewhere back. I'm the father would be distracted you see.
Who did that? Nobody always choir?
But somehow or other you see I was spotted out eventually I got caught and one Scott is caught forever. It's no it does the room is coming as yourself come here. This is the way that you be here now.
No, Rod was stayed at that time Rod was much in use at the time to discipline the youngsters here. So now should you get to kneel down put our hands are I'm sorry, but I hands out / is / 4 shots six shots each shots 10 shots always in twos.
Son strongman youngster, I'll take them and just smile and go back who cares for you that was the time. So it's so happened that it went on for a couple of years. We were deprived of play a game or anything of that sort. It went on for two three years much against her will and we are now growing old and we are understanding and we can we know we are aware because when they are you
Journal reports go out annual reports natural they are printed they are have the stamp of the principal and all that and then we grow their back home appearance naturally want my father wants to see how is the progress and what's the matter with you? Why are these so what would happen nowadays? You see your Reckoning is quite changed. We used to have the number of marks a hundred percent.
This is a hundred percent marks and against it to 70% 80% 90% marks that you get 90 marks means 90% 80% So we used to have those and yet our ranks would be lowered. So the sum total would naturally denote the ranks. You stood first. Oh how many percent you got 850 marks. I had since 85 percent, but we missed that because 200 marks from
Heathens were taken away because we never is just because they were hidden. No because we didn't enter we didn't sit for the Examination for catechism and the New Testament and the Old Testament should credits for 200 marks. We'd lose each paper would be a hundred mark. So our ranks would be low and our parents would get wild about it. We are spending so much money. And what are you doing? You're playing there now every time it would be pardoned.
That's the mystics. Yeah, every time you see it would be at the annual reports quarterly reports would still be we're not fools. We are growing now. So we are registering all this and we know the root cause of it is that we are deprived of all this. All right, we don't care this thing. But at least let us go and play outside. We are kept as prisoners there at the back of the class.
That was the turmoil in the youngsters at the time.
Roman Catholic School famous School. Nobody can speak or any other so Mischief was still there because we were young we shouldn't have been so naughty but what can you do? So we used to all sorts of things, you know, you'd stamp and we'd better than peanut was a common thing, you know shooting flying Chi plane or something like that something would be there.
But all of a sudden there'd be a whole bag, you know full of books, you know will drop from right from the top bottom to create noise. You just start sorry. It's happened like that. Any Penny prank that we can think of you all the time there. We disturbances coming. I just I wanna come here and / go back. Once it so happened that something was somebody played it Misha foolish Mission and it must have struck the
To Father himself he sees
It actually the culprit must be just Allah Allah. Is this the way that you behave and this and that and he gave me a long lecture is me down. Come on and he started he lost his temper and he thrashed me real, you know, he used to have benching also need to bend down on the bench and dude / on a fan. He's so it's been down. So all the thrashing that I had of course that was too much to bear now because why because I was not the culprit
I was not the criminal that I you know some person so I will want to Bear it bravely orientation. I rebelled against it now and I didn't speak or anything. I just went as soon as the class was over. I mustered all these non-catholics as it come on. We should report you can't bear all the sort of this is insult like this sort of the let's go to the principal and I had the courage to go. Why because I knew my father had little what you call.
Food or the father depended upon my father means the principal depend on if my father was the head of the engineering department and all that. So they had a Technologic section there. So my father was there the noon
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That be a wolf family. He would have every letter read up to him. I know that even from the beginning he started.
Me on this they wanted me he pushed me to it. So that in that way I could really say it's from Baba to all all of his children because after it was done it was read to him Harris would read out to him and I'd be called and barber said that is the best but then when I found each one was the best it means he was satisfied. He would add he would delete he would say, no, not this
I put that in what about this message and then it would suppose all the time going from him and then when I say I know I was done because after a while even the family lets us group more of my time would go in that and I would discuss with Eric some points with a Francis and all and then I can type out in between whenever I had time and by the time the completed thing got done it took quite some time. So I tell myself heave a sigh of relief.
I won't even think about it for another month. At least you see and in 15 days Bible would look at the new very innocently said and she writing another family letter Baba. So we just can't is very chewy. I mean, so just reach them two weeks ago. Oh, yeah, two days later. Oh you have a busy you were writing the family legend that that really was.
He did to you what no doubt.
I would sit sometimes.
In a room here in which you keep onions is to keep a lot of onions. It's the onion go down. We call it. We still to this day call it the onion go down all the now the onions I think I placed somewhere else plus here, but it is to be full of onions. So when I couldn't type here for some reason, I forget I would go into that room. Somehow managed to put a little tip boy there and a chair and do my typing of the family.
Is there and I think the ammonia probably gave me inspiration more than I would think but I would keep incense sticks there and and I could watch I could watch Barbara's dot the monthly hauled off from their see so I could know when Bob was coming out I could rush hour and then
We had forgotten one thing that that room is the room Baba first sat in seclusion in Meredith. And first we came to matters add Bob established his home here and his base here because many many years were spent. In fact in one place without traveling Bob has spent more time in perizaad than anywhere else. I didn't realize that that's the room.
Baba said in seclusion when he first came to Meredith by itself before we came and settled here, but there is a bubble Ava will be called tribute Will Davis he is so close to trees and plants and things that people refer to them as she as he he would touch a tree and say, oh he's good. He's good and then he touched some woods somewhere and
That he was saying this is good for some you would so when when he came over with me to that side with onion good armoires for some for some reason he touched the wood and said oh, this is good. This is at that time. I said, well, he's crackers. I'm in this good as an old door. This wood is just an old door and the paint peeling off and I thought this tree in Living Wood is something but that's also right now I can take things with a grain of salt.
Even as I thought that in a Flash another flash came to me, but he's right that is when I remembered this is the room Baba said in seclusion in and so this room really has that he felt him.
Yes, he's good that dog.
Said room still here the onion room. Yes. Oh, yes.
That's that last Green Door.
It has a lock on it. Just right across here.
Do you remember which one bubble visited?
Avatars about in 1958. He stayed at the Bellevue Hotel and wisdom that hotel has been demolished but it's all been done in the name of progress.
But do you know that I have an interest in making LED lights stained glass and I particularly like getting old doors stripping them of their paint and restoring putting LED light in them. I've done a lot of them and I was I often would go to Brisbane to the demolition yards. These are the companies that demolish the building and then sell the second-hand materials and I was fortunate
One day to go to the demolition yard that had demolished the Bellevue Hotel and bought five of the doors from the hotel which I have sold two of them now to Baba lovers who were building their homes on my road and they put on a show.
But when we talk of trees, I record something that was unusual to say the least when we were in satara and Baba wasn't for a while in an old place but marriage which was what was the name of the place Bob was with Alicia.
The Mast wasn't Jag rila, it was not but no, but it's why you're late.
Book as Bangla probably I don't know if it's an older little place a rooms couple of rooms man was so Bob was in seclusion there and the must Alicia was within that gentle beautiful mask you have seen pictures of him, but gentle Biden beard and he would so Mara and I were told to go and see him twice a week.
Some some period like that. Otherwise, it was an absolute seclusion. None of the others could say so once when we went there along the walk to look at them lovely walks in satara. We walked to the place we've been in with Baba see the bubbles showed us Alicia and just sat around Baba asks some things and outside that house was a big tree a fresh green tree with lovely fresh green leaves. We always remembered that like,
Before you enter you see that tree and one day as we came out of Barbara's room to go back to our place Grafton. We saw that the tree was broken the top of the tank was broken. There was a that been a a sort of a window to it and there was a live fire.
There was a friend not just a frame there was a fire but the the trunk was green the leaves that Brian that had fallen down was green the rest of the leaves on it with green and here it was a bright fire love. It was a lovely sight to see this fire blazing and a green green tree. So when we told baba, but I think we had we went back the next day and barber said that was
How is what?
That was a spark that flew out from the work he was doing that was the significance of it was his work. That's the only thing you said and I realized that that's why we cover was terrifically unusual just to see it. And then of course we listen to these lines of the gazelles, which was sent to Baba and here's this lover who said who says
Who has this glass of wine it sort of divine significance. I mean is not meant in the sense that we understand it. But here the lover has this glass of wine at the Beloved is poured and he holds it and in the agony of his love the tears have fallen into the glass and mixed with the wine. So this lover tells someone don't touch my glass.
Are your hands will burn?
There is the fire of my love has mixed with the wine. Don't touch it things like that. We we cannot even have a glimpse and barber tells us that Divine love is an ocean of fire that it is. No joke, but this path is not for the weak-hearted the faith cited and that is why it is the real Warriors of those who can go through this this this path in this life in obedience in love.
And then there was this other song in which the pigeon says the pigeon that's carrying.
At message and note from the lava to the Beloved the carrier pigeon and the lover says that the pigeon that was carrying my my my note to my beloved the pigeon was burned because of the fire that was in in the pain the words that I wrote It's that's why Barber used to when he would talk about by John and he would say
She was Emperor and that that was not not for the faint-hearted that you have. She was real man in the real sense. And that is why Baba taught himself herself never referred to herself or allowed anybody to refer to her as a woman imagine. She would have been called Imagine by rights in the ordinary way, but she was Baba.
Can anybody did call her imagined? She would be at the but that
And that's what papa says when that happens. That is nothing to say nothing you it's his silence then and the and the illustration which I've said a number of times have I would say we want to know through the mind that which is beyond the mind which mind cannot touch but we can only take it in through the mind so we asked him for explanations of things.
Which are beyond the mind to please give it to us so we can take it through the night. So Baba one day said because he is so compassionate it comes to our level he gives, you know to each one in as we can digest at this wicked taken but he says that it once he gives us illustration. He said supposing supposing a child were to come to you someone grown up and married was sitting before him, but the question was going on.
Between him and bottom. So Baba said supposing a a child comes to you and says tell me tell me all about marriage.
How could you tell when the child grows up? He will know from his experience what marriage means what sex means what white means all that. She will know then there will be no no question once he knows that is nothing to question. But if you were to ask you, what would you say how you can say, but how would you make the child know that you can tell the child about the wedding?
You can tell him that the bride wore that is the groom did that and the Mother-in-law cried and the cake was so big and what it contain and the rate was such and such and the lace was from Italy in about was making these gestures. I'm making the words. Oh the Bible says when you ask me, I'm really telling you about the wedding.
But when inside you you know of that marriage, then there are signs. There's nothing to ask nothing to say.
Father when he would even explain like that, it was Simplicity itself because truth is simple mama said once seated right here something had happened and Bible said it is so simple that is almost impossible.
Because we cannot take the simple. We must have some shape. We must have trimmings. We must have both we must have color. We must have something that which attracts so naturally but the real is so simple.
So then Bob would say things like that to me. They have been the real service real discusses casually like like this that I just described or like somebody who always was harping on God realization. We don't even know what we're talking about when we talk of things like that and and ask him to you know, just to tell you but but what can you tell so so when this person is always somebody visiting by the way none, who are
Being with him at questions and if they had because somebody else had a question. So this person was there and again, you know, very late to talk about the God realization is that God realization and Papa said to him there were no carpets here, by the way, it's just Shabbat stone flooring. We have a stove Glory underneath this so Papa just pointed to that and he said you see that
The man look yes. Yes. Yes Stone and Bob has asked him a question. What is the difference between that stone and you as a person hand so he knows that that's a lotta different Stone and me. He said exactly said Baba that is the difference between you and a god-realized state.
After that the man who never brother.
The time when he told Mother and mother was a pain to find the cheese fasting and not eating that is observing silence because his voice was beautiful even his detractors, even our community who harassed mother so much in the beginning who couldn't take him to be what he is and who
Really, but all are to have as mother because she was his mother even they conceded that is true. He had a beautiful voice. Yes.
And then they would look like and they say well, even when we were doing our work cooking washing dishes no matter what we would hear him sing them on a job in Persia. We would stop to listen and then they would come down to earth and say but that's not enough. That's not enough to give himself airs as to who does he think he is so they couldn't take it. Yes. So so even at paint mother the chair
He should observe silence in prison is voice no longer talk saying he loved doing that and also that he would fast you see that picture. The last one on the left that is after a long fast, but that does not mean that Bob would sit in a room fasting but was more energetic but we would do everything. I mean you have to keep running after him as a matter fact we still do but you know, Bobby was just so
Vibrant, but then it pain mother as to see her son fasting being on silence. So at that time all those around by were very young and so mother one day said maril. Why do you have to fast? Why do you have to keep the silence? You have nothing to gain? So you're doing it for them? That's what you say. So why not make that do it make this should surround Jamaican, dude.
Then observe silence made them up the observe fast and then Papa said something.
He said it'd be all but you see gestures we interpret to our understanding or to the circumstance in which these gestures were made, but this could have meant the universe. This is all around him. This could mean the whole world. This could mean the whole universe. Anyway, this was his gesture. He said if own observed fast, but the rest of their lives
It wouldn't equal one day of my fast and it all observe silence for the rest of their lives. It wouldn't equal 1 hour of my silence.
And mother didn't say anything after that. So you see that these
That he does for us on our behalf. But because he's Perfection as I said, the fruits are perfect. We could do it whole lives all together all of us together. It wouldn't equal one day of his fasting. So if he fast for months, just imagine what we reap.
What Harbors does hours from his doing all from the cylons? That's why when Baba gave silence to somebody and that person wanted to continue silence Carlos angry guy means I Splash she said You observe silence only when I tell you that has meaning and then he also explained that when you have silenced yourself your desire is and last greed and anger and all.
Even as a person only then you're observing silence can have any meaning except when it's for me.
By the 10th July or when I tell you to keep silence and the same thing for the fast when you are faster yourself inside so that there is nothing then if You observe first it has it has a fruit. Otherwise the Baba said is good. If you keep silence, it will help everybody else you talk too much anyway.
Yes these little 7th and there's the one which everybody I think that's heard so many times and I think Dara has on his tape at The Hive times but some of you might like to hear this because errors always reminds me about this assault was shot. You know, we had a Cocker Spaniel.
His name was Peter. He was.
Very much with Baba even on his travel since 1953, which is when we got him in Missouri. He was second in Bob has affection for pets first was must an epic that dog but this little Peter wise little fellow who was always with Bobby whatever Bob would go for a walk or when he would come from there from the women's side to be in the mandalas Hall in the mornings and in the afternoons potato was there before in flapping his long ears and he would then
Come and lie down about us. We talked about a set right here and he had a habit of snoring very much like a human skull. In fact, I was stunned one day when I was in Bobby's room and we women were sitting seated around him and I was reading out one of the books Tolkien or would also direct style to something and I have to snore and I said, I can't believe it Baba she did before us.
Hey, who's that snoring? I looked at nausea. No, she had her eyes closed, but she wasn't asleep. I looked at each of them and suddenly I realized the snow was almost underneath my chair and that was Peter. So what kind of sleep here and snore and and whenever to somebody had to show Baba something across there to go across Peter. Everything had to be done A cross B. There's a bottle would lean over and they would lean around. So Bob called me one day. They should be two bills at the
Monthly Hellgate this big door a bigger one was for go home run by the wanted to her and it would ring that Bell when Barbra wanted me there was this smaller belt. So one day my little bell rang. I rushed from where I was doing some typing Baba was seated here and it's love at this look at this fellow and he was snowing Peter was snowing right at his feet. We all laughed and as a publisher like taken away. Does it disturb you?
Let the Mugabe labor. So I meant just two days later again the bell rang again. I was called so I'm in the little bell rang and I came again. It was the same scene that was Barba seated here. And there was Peter line at his feet and disturb. You mustn't just lie quietly and snoring he was dreaming and he was excited and I was his paws were going so far.
Just that had been cycling at the 50 miles an hour in very fast, and it was very excited and he was making all this stuff.
And as Bob was so fired that the year came forward and what I was completely covered, you know that actress care about others and karakasa. Well, he was like that. He was very excited and I thought again just to show me. You know, how I'm using all this is but then the opposite something which track me later.
As mother of my little as as one of his simple sermons as I call it like the ones that I described to you now and Baba looked at him and said look at it. He thinks some wild animal is chasing him or he's been chased by wild animal and he's Crossing through the desert over the mountains.
Crossing rivers and is just just bubbles doing and he he thinks that's what all he's doing and yet all the time. He is safe and sound at my feet.
After I'll bust go and I went and then it struck me as the Bible saying is that's what we go through. We think we're going to roll this some look what we're doing and all this is happening and help and every purpose is don't worry because all the time we are safe and sound at his feet.
There is he would go with Baba also for walks and sitaram and David would go over and I would come in the afternoon when he would return. He would tell us some funny things that Peter did and Bobby said Peter thinks he's a cat he goes up a tree and then it did go up to the tip of the branch ones, but he couldn't turn around and then even proud.
And always used to take baths in that farm.
Yes, you know that reminds me of the family. We got Peter from as a very interesting story. Just one little story now. I have to go we were in, Missouri.
All the arrangements a beautiful house there and we went from there then good Baba for some days and he had put on the door sill on the top and at the entrance of a whole big straight from a bush of yellow roses a whole Branch filled with yellow little yellow roses. Wild yellow roses with never seen that and that's what we thought at first that it's not.
Not real and then we found that it's real that everywhere you go on Missouri and the path. The hedges are just rose bushes. And Rose Hedges made of that. Anyway, when we were there, it was only here beautiful place. If we went any further up to this Outhouse, we could see the top of some of the Himalayan Mountains so below us as we had to go down the hill to get on the road and go for walks. There was another
Bungalow a cottage but there were two sisters they were English mrs. Mccleod and Miss Cooper. Oh Cooper we don't know her name her initials LL O Koopa, so we got friendly on the way, you know, nothing about that book. We were not we were told not to say and we never mentioned about who he is or what they must have seen him go down. They must have been chosen but no time so she
I'd say how her name was LL kuta but that the Indian necessary worked with the people the help us she wept with but couldn't pronounce El Oso. They would say yellow Koopa and she would tell them I anything but yellow anyway, her sister. Mrs. McLeod had this cocker spaniels and they have those cocker spaniels had a litter of puppies and they got most of them away all of them away except Peter.
Somehow mrs. McLeod said he was special. She wouldn't even leave Missouri in the winter because who would look after the tells her pets it was that kind of thing. Now mrs. This Del L Cooper had been linen Keeper in a big hotel in Agra. So she said she met all the big personalities many of them. She met the other calm there and Errol Flynn and all kinds of names she'd said and one day she said and now
Now met her father. I have met mad because she saw him. Goodbye. She knew the name, but we didn't talk about an engine a Cheban. Anyway, we've got this little Peter from them. I won't go into that because once I get into that story, it's a long story. But then later when we went back to dehradun Peter coming with us and all and it was a bungalow and one day we were seated with Baba in the hall and suddenly this lady walks in
And we were amazed to find that it was mrs. Cooper. Hello Cooper. She just walked in with a surprise. I was reading something to bother and she walked up to Baba and put out a hand Baba shook her hand shake hands with her and said, I'm happy she sat for a while. We just talked to things and then she said well bother I must go fine. So she went again to Baba put out a hand Baba standing up the to put out a hand.
And when Bobby put his hand in hers, she quickly took it and put it on her head flat and said bless me bother we were amazed and Bible said yes and pressed his hand on her head. She walked out. We never saw her again and very shortly after that. She died because I still keep in touch with us and pictures of Peter and all but you see when you're so blessed. So fortunate you can
Because I wanted to do that what must she must have known we never spoke of it. So she finds out the house were living in dehradun. She comes all the way there walks up to Baba Texas hand puts it on her head bless me mother.
I was the kid I think it was about 9 years of age and I don't know what made my parents go there. But later on I hear that my uncle maternal uncle.
My mother's home is here and I'm an American colonies. Yeah, yeah. Yeah at that time. It was a huge place. It belonged to some mohammedan and it's known as Akbar Akbar Paisa bar at the rally was the owner of it was cotton and ginning Factory carpet Factory. They stood guard the cotton ginning.
Take this cotton seeds are and then it was also guarding engineering and pressing it would press into Bales and then export send out to the mills for weaving and all that other thing. So it was a big Factory you here and this is a cotton area that needs to grow not now.
What's a my maternal grandfather was the manager and engineer employed pleased to be here and matching the children grew up my mother grew up to she had her education in Clara Bruce school here that is there. If you notice the board now going, you know, there is a somebody selling books, you know these comics and all that in that same compound. Clara blue is around. Yeah that old.
They used to study. The my uncle's is to study in different schools and all the when they grew up they are from another so my mother grew up she married and she went away with her husband natural so be but away from home at NADA, but my uncle's remained in a Madonna they were going there is some BK some were employed.
In Bombay and some got the employment here in another and one of them became a political leader.
So they were all here.
One day they my mother seems to have received a letter from one of the uncle is here saying that oh
Guess we met.
And there she did he describe their that was demoted subtle personality. You see reminders reminded us of zoroaster having come again.
So my mother's enthusiasm was fired because she was also you see she had studied the lives of the great ones the Saints great ones means not their leaders aren't events of the Saints and all that. She had that inclination from a young age to see these people serve them. Love them. She was a God-fearing woman my mother
I still have the wrong misnomer to say God-fearing because there's nothing to hear. She was a god-loving person. He always used these terms God-fearing and all that. It's not that really speak. It is God loving person.
So
When she hope this her heart wanted to just come back and see who the person is.
And my uncle who is the oldest who was of course, he's no more. He was much older than my mother and he was of it. He was a choice of it.
And he had a huge library and every now and then you tutor my mother and my mother would just listen to his stories and listen to him and revered him not as brother loved him not his brother but revered him somebody great saintly person. He was a bachelor and but he was on a very big Post in one of the moons in aqua regia mama.
So
She told my Uncle he was with her at the time different place. This is the letter to my uncle of course took it with him. Well, he didn't scoff at the I thought of it but you know how curious of his son they are. Very guarded you see in trying to believe anything other than God himself.
So yeah, there are people that are saintly people and all that. We shouldn't jump to conclusions unless we recall we test them that was the bent of Mind of my uncle but my mother was quite different.
So the first opportunity that was afforded was the Christmas holidays that needs to get in the British regime. It was not just one or two days. The children would get a month's holiday that would cover up not only Christmas but also New Year and and further.
So she was waiting for that as soon as we had a Christmas vacation and she gathered her children and came to ahmednagar and when she was there no mother naturally usually the Christmas time.
Are the children's would have to have holidays. So her sister's children her own children of brother's children. They were all gathered in a family home here Salva press
My grandfather was still the manager and engineer still working there that compound that you see now is it has lost lost its beauty. Otherwise, it would be like heaps of snow there, you know cotton all all moms of cotton would be there a very nice atmosphere was that there was also shared their big Orchard was there in the compound all that is
Now it has been rented and all the factories are come up and nothing would come and sit in the garden and Orchards and enjoy picnics and all that. So
What had happened was when my mother came she enquired from my uncle's is when he wrote to us. We'd like to go there. Where are you taking us the day that she arrived. This is oh, he just he just came yesterday with all the children at the time there were boys in Pre mushroom boys, and also Baba would come bring them and have a nice picnic their attack Barbara's Oceanside. We missed them. We should go there. So this is already been go.
So that's how my uncle's provided at the time. There were no buses running or edges is a primal distance. You know, we did have horse tonga's you see and you'll miss the site of the tongass that we had at the time. There were two horses in Tonga broader ones there but now they are no more involved. So they were more commodious then the little contraption that you see you still see tongue has no horse carriages.
They are known as tonga's but one halls but they were two horses also and they were tonga's of Bullock size bottles were used to draw give a cushioned and all that sort of thing. Yeah, you saw it last that side because they are out of work now, so there were bullet and Dark Horse dongers this single tonga's the depending upon how big the family is but apart from all this the families who could afford they used to have the horse carriages also personal.
Victoria's we call them Hackney carriages Holyoke on during the scary about five people can be easily sit like a car horse of yours. So that's we are two of them because big big family there to know they arranged and the family all the my uncle's my aunts. My-my mother and the children who were the
Well, we are driving we get into these carriages but you're asking me how I met so now the story is that when they entered the carriages there was no room for me.
You know, I was a big one so too. It's no good. No good occupying lot of space to could they occupy is instead of me. So if my mother says why don't you get out from there and sit on that the back the back where the boom stands there's a stand holding an umbrella and all that. So now and little flat piece the semester is going to sit there. There is no room here because if you don't sit here that to others will say hi to Big planning.
How old are you? How old are you? I was about nine nine years about so that's how it was. I sat there I enjoyed is nice right legs dangling and all that. No, no encumbrances around you see ya Breezy. So the horse carriages are moving horses are taking us faster and faster and all that.
And I don't know what's happening inside the carriages. They're having a chat in conversation all that. You know, how when especially when this arrest you in family all together loud noise same like juice talents talents to okay, then we are all of the same feather.
So that's how it is. So all of a sudden I hear.
My name my mother shouting my name since energetic jump jump.
And so I without taken unawares you see how the first thing that I used to do is to carry out what my mother says. So I just jumped from that running carriages and when I jumped it was in the opposite direction the momentum is this way and I jump this way means what happens I go flat on my yeah. I don't have the direction to carry on with the momentum.
So I fell flat on my back severely bruised my elbow.
And Charles bleeding. And in the meantime The Carriage is went further and the stopped I can see that and why did my mother asked me to jump here? I don't know. I was surprised myself. So I am just you know, I'd fall when I kill. Luckily. I had good pads. So I didn't matter anything was not it was Bruce but not know bones are cracked or broken or anything, but egg this elbow.
It's terribly bruised. It was Wounded Heart hurting much and blood is dripping there. So I carry my elbow and I'm walking the distance where they are. I don't know where they are going and where why are we leaving? We were told that we are going out for five miles right or something like that. It says children. Okay. So when I go there all are settled around a certain person I see
Who has spotted like this you see who was there?
And there are so I'm going there and I don't know where some the person looks at me and signs there what happened? So somebody says what happened to you. So I told this person that is Baba I said I fell down and I hurt my elbow and it's leaking you bleeding. So Bobby called me and made me sit on his lap and he cut.
Me and what their fondled me and says don't don't worry. Don't cry and he took a hit he bent down and there was the to nip it in front of him that donated that is there on the platform. It was not that the original place. It was somewhere near the roadside at that time.
And he was sitting here. They're all around him as we said here. There are people there.
So he took the ash from there. He dad getting all that. I don't know what he did. He did this in something and took out her handkerchief from there. He must be having handkerchief like serving the stuck there. We got it out and he bandaged my arm this elbow joint and sit down must be too heavy after a while. This is sit here. That's how it works. That was my first meeting with him.
I don't know what transpired but the first thought that I had was his really loving kind person. Nobody even from my family budget orange and the sudden nobody cared for it. So that's how it works. I fell for her. I'm sure you made the jump the recollection is on either side. There was slates at that time and Baba was conversing with this later. He was funny for me. It was nice fun exciting.
To see this man doesn't stock others are all talking and he's silent and he's writing one slave and then somebody reads and the Slate is puts their somebody's clearly said you're raising. Their another slate is taken. It's like that that that picture is still there. But the thought that I had of him was very nice person kind of person as a child loving loving kind person.
That's the first meeting. You don't know to this day why she said jump. I know you're I asked of course. I'm not that to leave her like that when I went back home.
Naturally, I had my band is this that cause if I don't know where that kerchief is now, so I told my mother she's not naturally they took great care of me while returning now so they made me sit there. So while I when I went back home when I was with my mother I asked her so why did you ask me to jump there are still times distance had to be crossed in a why did you do that?
So, you know the funny answer she gives me at the time and still she is that time. So my mother says that at that time the pointed out to me look he's sitting there and as ice my eyes fell on him.
The thought that occurred to her at the time was that how would Barbara feel if we are trying to overload the horse because the whole family yeah. So at Lee's are all the thought was that I'm my presence was the one that was the heaviest spared the horrors, but kill the child.
We're very good to our horses. I said, is that the way yeah, that's the Tata crab.
To see how the mind works. How did it come to be that you end up being with your nine years old and you met him but you didn't stay with him. No, then what happened is it was Christmas vacation? I Told You So vacation means children making sure she knows what happened with Zach. He never remained here or here. He was playing here the jumping and all the supposed to do that whenever every now and then back out call us there.
My mother would want to go every now and then so we'd go there but we won't be nearby but only at the time when he would go all out, you know, so our lunch is he so we'll all be there with the plates on first enroll or tea time. I still remember those days. You know, what delicious taste was there just simple Dal and rice, but it was with condiments be call it, you know some bar type nice and spicy. No nothing Chutney and spices rice and
Dull but it was vertical season. What do you call it spice spice spice seasoning. Yeah seasoning was there so just that the answer. Is there any English name for it? So that was the Bago take the spoon and you have aluminum plates with heaps of aluminum case each one or two take their element and hand. Yeah and thus much I is to eat is in borrowed give me that we used to relish.
The tea time was the best time because at that time people would bring sweets and our baskets of sweets would come home and stuff. Yeah, it's like yeah not this is a stingy person. It's not in my nature to accept that you see if you want to give me give me enough so that here so that I can have my fill all of my just puts one biscuit there. I don't know where it goes. It just disappears in my mouth.
So at the time Bobby is to do handful of jail bees or sweets like that is so it was nice to you. And that was the center of Attraction not Baba for us. Chill chill at least for me. It was as I told you I was Glutton how I ate the apple and all that. So it was fine. It was Paradise for me to play there and nice there were many kids around and all so teatime lunchtime we were
The first to be near the person who served and that person happened to be Baba later on for me in my house. I registered like this.
I was some person who is to give us good food and all that. But every time you see the ttrt time malaria was rampant here in this area in those days. So Baba would at that time there were no capsules or tablets of Queen. I we had powder.
I don't need to import this probably huh. Y9 quinine you call it. We call killing. So what with that sweet he will give a pinch you see of quinine in a queen and but with children he wouldn't do that knowing that they would throw it off. So what they'll say open your mouth if you want the sweet, that's sweet was there you see the attraction of this.
She'll open her mouth. So you put the bitter powder there and the whole mouth will become so bitter and all this is now we'd bow our city. He will be C. But for a long time, it won't go that bitterness to just be there. But this quantity of sweets will be so such that it would gradually overcome the bitterness and mouths will become sweet and that was even attraction, but that was the only part which I
Like near Barbara's know my in my childhood.
So that's how it was. So here's this passed by and we will go back to our school and all that's how it was. I went back to school. Formerly. I was a border in a sick my father had an appointment with government. He was employed by the British government. So he was now on a big post. So my father thought that it's not good for for the child to be a border now he
Have a property can establish himself at one place have a home and all that. So my mother and my two years Kid sisters and myself are now brought in mid comfortable in over a property and we had a bungalow to luminol the spine. So I was put in a school schools at that time with such you know, those years were such that only missionary schools were considered to be the best the rest of the
The schools were not good they when schools but if you want to have your children good education, you should have put them in Mission School missionary schools. Well fathers and brothers would come from Germany and Italy and France and all that. So my father holding such a responsible position loving me the only son, you know how it is when I said we must have good education.
So he put me in that school, although it was at the time too. It was considered to be a bit costly Affair. So I was put there.
And I enjoyed the only thing was that all were Catholics Roman Catholics, and I myself was non-catholic.
So these Catholic boys would treat me as a heathen, you know, they will even call they don't call me a non-catholic on the a he do talk among themselves as those heathens heathens. First of all, I didn't understand the meaning what they mean by heathens and all are gradually I began to understand however by this time I'm nine and a half years 10 years old boy. I can understand all these things. I can see that how we are.
Considered to be different from them and all that and we were according to our standard of living at that time. We were not at all different they were different from us is because my standard of living was such is he and they these refracts called me this that's how the youngster you filled in the mind. But still there was no way out the education was there had to be taken and
The teachers were good kind very kind people so it when I pulled on some years to three year to two years and third year of it was made compulsory. You know, there was that life of Jesus, you know, we call them scripture classes and Catechism classes. So that's how it was it was you forced to take no on the contrary see heathens when I suppose not supposed to take the
Glasses but on the contrary what we had there was a punishment for us. So we had to change our seats and go back behind the class backbenchers.
We had to be there and then revise our lessons and these Catholics would come in the Forefront and they will attend the classes and you just imagine you'll be all passed through that stages. Yes children. If you are supposed to tell the go and revise lessons that the back would you want to do it on the contrary? They say you play a lot of mission and Mischief seems to be my one of the traits you see in my younger age. I used to play a lot of Mischief that with a purpose.
The stubbornness you want me to sit quiet? I won't sit quiet, you know you all know that so when the classes are being held and dissolves solemnity and seriousness, you know, I could hear the venial sins and the cardinal sins and all that hell and heaven being to who cared for hell and heaven one peanut you see with go and hit somebody's here and
Doing that is in look somewhere back. I'm the father would be distracted you see.
Who did that? Nobody always choir?
But somehow or other you see I was spotted out eventually I got caught and one Scott is caught forever. It's no it does the room is coming as yourself come here. This is the way that you be here now.
No, Rod was stayed at that time Rod was much in use at the time to discipline the youngsters here. So now should you get to kneel down put our hands are I'm sorry, but I hands out / is / 4 shots six shots each shots 10 shots always in twos.
Son strongman youngster, I'll take them and just smile and go back who cares for you that was the time. So it's so happened that it went on for a couple of years. We were deprived of play a game or anything of that sort. It went on for two three years much against her will and we are now growing old and we are understanding and we can we know we are aware because when they are you
Journal reports go out annual reports natural they are printed they are have the stamp of the principal and all that and then we grow their back home appearance naturally want my father wants to see how is the progress and what's the matter with you? Why are these so what would happen nowadays? You see your Reckoning is quite changed. We used to have the number of marks a hundred percent.
This is a hundred percent marks and against it to 70% 80% 90% marks that you get 90 marks means 90% 80% So we used to have those and yet our ranks would be lowered. So the sum total would naturally denote the ranks. You stood first. Oh how many percent you got 850 marks. I had since 85 percent, but we missed that because 200 marks from
Heathens were taken away because we never is just because they were hidden. No because we didn't enter we didn't sit for the Examination for catechism and the New Testament and the Old Testament should credits for 200 marks. We'd lose each paper would be a hundred mark. So our ranks would be low and our parents would get wild about it. We are spending so much money. And what are you doing? You're playing there now every time it would be pardoned.
That's the mystics. Yeah, every time you see it would be at the annual reports quarterly reports would still be we're not fools. We are growing now. So we are registering all this and we know the root cause of it is that we are deprived of all this. All right, we don't care this thing. But at least let us go and play outside. We are kept as prisoners there at the back of the class.
That was the turmoil in the youngsters at the time.
Roman Catholic School famous School. Nobody can speak or any other so Mischief was still there because we were young we shouldn't have been so naughty but what can you do? So we used to all sorts of things, you know, you'd stamp and we'd better than peanut was a common thing, you know shooting flying Chi plane or something like that something would be there.
But all of a sudden there'd be a whole bag, you know full of books, you know will drop from right from the top bottom to create noise. You just start sorry. It's happened like that. Any Penny prank that we can think of you all the time there. We disturbances coming. I just I wanna come here and / go back. Once it so happened that something was somebody played it Misha foolish Mission and it must have struck the
To Father himself he sees
It actually the culprit must be just Allah Allah. Is this the way that you behave and this and that and he gave me a long lecture is me down. Come on and he started he lost his temper and he thrashed me real, you know, he used to have benching also need to bend down on the bench and dude / on a fan. He's so it's been down. So all the thrashing that I had of course that was too much to bear now because why because I was not the culprit
I was not the criminal that I you know some person so I will want to Bear it bravely orientation. I rebelled against it now and I didn't speak or anything. I just went as soon as the class was over. I mustered all these non-catholics as it come on. We should report you can't bear all the sort of this is insult like this sort of the let's go to the principal and I had the courage to go. Why because I knew my father had little what you call.
Food or the father depended upon my father means the principal depend on if my father was the head of the engineering department and all that. So they had a Technologic section there. So my father was there the noon
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Eruch Jessawalla & Mani S Irani - The Onion Go Down
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That be a wolf family. He would have every letter read up to him. I know that even from the beginning he started.
Me on this they wanted me he pushed me to it. So that in that way I could really say it's from Baba to all all of his children because after it was done it was read to him Harris would read out to him and I'd be called and barber said that is the best but then when I found each one was the best it means he was satisfied. He would add he would delete he would say, no, not this
I put that in what about this message and then it would suppose all the time going from him and then when I say I know I was done because after a while even the family lets us group more of my time would go in that and I would discuss with Eric some points with a Francis and all and then I can type out in between whenever I had time and by the time the completed thing got done it took quite some time. So I tell myself heave a sigh of relief.
I won't even think about it for another month. At least you see and in 15 days Bible would look at the new very innocently said and she writing another family letter Baba. So we just can't is very chewy. I mean, so just reach them two weeks ago. Oh, yeah, two days later. Oh you have a busy you were writing the family legend that that really was.
He did to you what no doubt.
I would sit sometimes.
In a room here in which you keep onions is to keep a lot of onions. It's the onion go down. We call it. We still to this day call it the onion go down all the now the onions I think I placed somewhere else plus here, but it is to be full of onions. So when I couldn't type here for some reason, I forget I would go into that room. Somehow managed to put a little tip boy there and a chair and do my typing of the family.
Is there and I think the ammonia probably gave me inspiration more than I would think but I would keep incense sticks there and and I could watch I could watch Barbara's dot the monthly hauled off from their see so I could know when Bob was coming out I could rush hour and then
We had forgotten one thing that that room is the room Baba first sat in seclusion in Meredith. And first we came to matters add Bob established his home here and his base here because many many years were spent. In fact in one place without traveling Bob has spent more time in perizaad than anywhere else. I didn't realize that that's the room.
Baba said in seclusion when he first came to Meredith by itself before we came and settled here, but there is a bubble Ava will be called tribute Will Davis he is so close to trees and plants and things that people refer to them as she as he he would touch a tree and say, oh he's good. He's good and then he touched some woods somewhere and
That he was saying this is good for some you would so when when he came over with me to that side with onion good armoires for some for some reason he touched the wood and said oh, this is good. This is at that time. I said, well, he's crackers. I'm in this good as an old door. This wood is just an old door and the paint peeling off and I thought this tree in Living Wood is something but that's also right now I can take things with a grain of salt.
Even as I thought that in a Flash another flash came to me, but he's right that is when I remembered this is the room Baba said in seclusion in and so this room really has that he felt him.
Yes, he's good that dog.
Said room still here the onion room. Yes. Oh, yes.
That's that last Green Door.
It has a lock on it. Just right across here.
Do you remember which one bubble visited?
Avatars about in 1958. He stayed at the Bellevue Hotel and wisdom that hotel has been demolished but it's all been done in the name of progress.
But do you know that I have an interest in making LED lights stained glass and I particularly like getting old doors stripping them of their paint and restoring putting LED light in them. I've done a lot of them and I was I often would go to Brisbane to the demolition yards. These are the companies that demolish the building and then sell the second-hand materials and I was fortunate
One day to go to the demolition yard that had demolished the Bellevue Hotel and bought five of the doors from the hotel which I have sold two of them now to Baba lovers who were building their homes on my road and they put on a show.
But when we talk of trees, I record something that was unusual to say the least when we were in satara and Baba wasn't for a while in an old place but marriage which was what was the name of the place Bob was with Alicia.
The Mast wasn't Jag rila, it was not but no, but it's why you're late.
Book as Bangla probably I don't know if it's an older little place a rooms couple of rooms man was so Bob was in seclusion there and the must Alicia was within that gentle beautiful mask you have seen pictures of him, but gentle Biden beard and he would so Mara and I were told to go and see him twice a week.
Some some period like that. Otherwise, it was an absolute seclusion. None of the others could say so once when we went there along the walk to look at them lovely walks in satara. We walked to the place we've been in with Baba see the bubbles showed us Alicia and just sat around Baba asks some things and outside that house was a big tree a fresh green tree with lovely fresh green leaves. We always remembered that like,
Before you enter you see that tree and one day as we came out of Barbara's room to go back to our place Grafton. We saw that the tree was broken the top of the tank was broken. There was a that been a a sort of a window to it and there was a live fire.
There was a friend not just a frame there was a fire but the the trunk was green the leaves that Brian that had fallen down was green the rest of the leaves on it with green and here it was a bright fire love. It was a lovely sight to see this fire blazing and a green green tree. So when we told baba, but I think we had we went back the next day and barber said that was
How is what?
That was a spark that flew out from the work he was doing that was the significance of it was his work. That's the only thing you said and I realized that that's why we cover was terrifically unusual just to see it. And then of course we listen to these lines of the gazelles, which was sent to Baba and here's this lover who said who says
Who has this glass of wine it sort of divine significance. I mean is not meant in the sense that we understand it. But here the lover has this glass of wine at the Beloved is poured and he holds it and in the agony of his love the tears have fallen into the glass and mixed with the wine. So this lover tells someone don't touch my glass.
Are your hands will burn?
There is the fire of my love has mixed with the wine. Don't touch it things like that. We we cannot even have a glimpse and barber tells us that Divine love is an ocean of fire that it is. No joke, but this path is not for the weak-hearted the faith cited and that is why it is the real Warriors of those who can go through this this this path in this life in obedience in love.
And then there was this other song in which the pigeon says the pigeon that's carrying.
At message and note from the lava to the Beloved the carrier pigeon and the lover says that the pigeon that was carrying my my my note to my beloved the pigeon was burned because of the fire that was in in the pain the words that I wrote It's that's why Barber used to when he would talk about by John and he would say
She was Emperor and that that was not not for the faint-hearted that you have. She was real man in the real sense. And that is why Baba taught himself herself never referred to herself or allowed anybody to refer to her as a woman imagine. She would have been called Imagine by rights in the ordinary way, but she was Baba.
Can anybody did call her imagined? She would be at the but that
And that's what papa says when that happens. That is nothing to say nothing you it's his silence then and the and the illustration which I've said a number of times have I would say we want to know through the mind that which is beyond the mind which mind cannot touch but we can only take it in through the mind so we asked him for explanations of things.
Which are beyond the mind to please give it to us so we can take it through the night. So Baba one day said because he is so compassionate it comes to our level he gives, you know to each one in as we can digest at this wicked taken but he says that it once he gives us illustration. He said supposing supposing a child were to come to you someone grown up and married was sitting before him, but the question was going on.
Between him and bottom. So Baba said supposing a a child comes to you and says tell me tell me all about marriage.
How could you tell when the child grows up? He will know from his experience what marriage means what sex means what white means all that. She will know then there will be no no question once he knows that is nothing to question. But if you were to ask you, what would you say how you can say, but how would you make the child know that you can tell the child about the wedding?
You can tell him that the bride wore that is the groom did that and the Mother-in-law cried and the cake was so big and what it contain and the rate was such and such and the lace was from Italy in about was making these gestures. I'm making the words. Oh the Bible says when you ask me, I'm really telling you about the wedding.
But when inside you you know of that marriage, then there are signs. There's nothing to ask nothing to say.
Father when he would even explain like that, it was Simplicity itself because truth is simple mama said once seated right here something had happened and Bible said it is so simple that is almost impossible.
Because we cannot take the simple. We must have some shape. We must have trimmings. We must have both we must have color. We must have something that which attracts so naturally but the real is so simple.
So then Bob would say things like that to me. They have been the real service real discusses casually like like this that I just described or like somebody who always was harping on God realization. We don't even know what we're talking about when we talk of things like that and and ask him to you know, just to tell you but but what can you tell so so when this person is always somebody visiting by the way none, who are
Being with him at questions and if they had because somebody else had a question. So this person was there and again, you know, very late to talk about the God realization is that God realization and Papa said to him there were no carpets here, by the way, it's just Shabbat stone flooring. We have a stove Glory underneath this so Papa just pointed to that and he said you see that
The man look yes. Yes. Yes Stone and Bob has asked him a question. What is the difference between that stone and you as a person hand so he knows that that's a lotta different Stone and me. He said exactly said Baba that is the difference between you and a god-realized state.
After that the man who never brother.
The time when he told Mother and mother was a pain to find the cheese fasting and not eating that is observing silence because his voice was beautiful even his detractors, even our community who harassed mother so much in the beginning who couldn't take him to be what he is and who
Really, but all are to have as mother because she was his mother even they conceded that is true. He had a beautiful voice. Yes.
And then they would look like and they say well, even when we were doing our work cooking washing dishes no matter what we would hear him sing them on a job in Persia. We would stop to listen and then they would come down to earth and say but that's not enough. That's not enough to give himself airs as to who does he think he is so they couldn't take it. Yes. So so even at paint mother the chair
He should observe silence in prison is voice no longer talk saying he loved doing that and also that he would fast you see that picture. The last one on the left that is after a long fast, but that does not mean that Bob would sit in a room fasting but was more energetic but we would do everything. I mean you have to keep running after him as a matter fact we still do but you know, Bobby was just so
Vibrant, but then it pain mother as to see her son fasting being on silence. So at that time all those around by were very young and so mother one day said maril. Why do you have to fast? Why do you have to keep the silence? You have nothing to gain? So you're doing it for them? That's what you say. So why not make that do it make this should surround Jamaican, dude.
Then observe silence made them up the observe fast and then Papa said something.
He said it'd be all but you see gestures we interpret to our understanding or to the circumstance in which these gestures were made, but this could have meant the universe. This is all around him. This could mean the whole world. This could mean the whole universe. Anyway, this was his gesture. He said if own observed fast, but the rest of their lives
It wouldn't equal one day of my fast and it all observe silence for the rest of their lives. It wouldn't equal 1 hour of my silence.
And mother didn't say anything after that. So you see that these
That he does for us on our behalf. But because he's Perfection as I said, the fruits are perfect. We could do it whole lives all together all of us together. It wouldn't equal one day of his fasting. So if he fast for months, just imagine what we reap.
What Harbors does hours from his doing all from the cylons? That's why when Baba gave silence to somebody and that person wanted to continue silence Carlos angry guy means I Splash she said You observe silence only when I tell you that has meaning and then he also explained that when you have silenced yourself your desire is and last greed and anger and all.
Even as a person only then you're observing silence can have any meaning except when it's for me.
By the 10th July or when I tell you to keep silence and the same thing for the fast when you are faster yourself inside so that there is nothing then if You observe first it has it has a fruit. Otherwise the Baba said is good. If you keep silence, it will help everybody else you talk too much anyway.
Yes these little 7th and there's the one which everybody I think that's heard so many times and I think Dara has on his tape at The Hive times but some of you might like to hear this because errors always reminds me about this assault was shot. You know, we had a Cocker Spaniel.
His name was Peter. He was.
Very much with Baba even on his travel since 1953, which is when we got him in Missouri. He was second in Bob has affection for pets first was must an epic that dog but this little Peter wise little fellow who was always with Bobby whatever Bob would go for a walk or when he would come from there from the women's side to be in the mandalas Hall in the mornings and in the afternoons potato was there before in flapping his long ears and he would then
Come and lie down about us. We talked about a set right here and he had a habit of snoring very much like a human skull. In fact, I was stunned one day when I was in Bobby's room and we women were sitting seated around him and I was reading out one of the books Tolkien or would also direct style to something and I have to snore and I said, I can't believe it Baba she did before us.
Hey, who's that snoring? I looked at nausea. No, she had her eyes closed, but she wasn't asleep. I looked at each of them and suddenly I realized the snow was almost underneath my chair and that was Peter. So what kind of sleep here and snore and and whenever to somebody had to show Baba something across there to go across Peter. Everything had to be done A cross B. There's a bottle would lean over and they would lean around. So Bob called me one day. They should be two bills at the
Monthly Hellgate this big door a bigger one was for go home run by the wanted to her and it would ring that Bell when Barbra wanted me there was this smaller belt. So one day my little bell rang. I rushed from where I was doing some typing Baba was seated here and it's love at this look at this fellow and he was snowing Peter was snowing right at his feet. We all laughed and as a publisher like taken away. Does it disturb you?
Let the Mugabe labor. So I meant just two days later again the bell rang again. I was called so I'm in the little bell rang and I came again. It was the same scene that was Barba seated here. And there was Peter line at his feet and disturb. You mustn't just lie quietly and snoring he was dreaming and he was excited and I was his paws were going so far.
Just that had been cycling at the 50 miles an hour in very fast, and it was very excited and he was making all this stuff.
And as Bob was so fired that the year came forward and what I was completely covered, you know that actress care about others and karakasa. Well, he was like that. He was very excited and I thought again just to show me. You know, how I'm using all this is but then the opposite something which track me later.
As mother of my little as as one of his simple sermons as I call it like the ones that I described to you now and Baba looked at him and said look at it. He thinks some wild animal is chasing him or he's been chased by wild animal and he's Crossing through the desert over the mountains.
Crossing rivers and is just just bubbles doing and he he thinks that's what all he's doing and yet all the time. He is safe and sound at my feet.
After I'll bust go and I went and then it struck me as the Bible saying is that's what we go through. We think we're going to roll this some look what we're doing and all this is happening and help and every purpose is don't worry because all the time we are safe and sound at his feet.
There is he would go with Baba also for walks and sitaram and David would go over and I would come in the afternoon when he would return. He would tell us some funny things that Peter did and Bobby said Peter thinks he's a cat he goes up a tree and then it did go up to the tip of the branch ones, but he couldn't turn around and then even proud.
And always used to take baths in that farm.
Yes, you know that reminds me of the family. We got Peter from as a very interesting story. Just one little story now. I have to go we were in, Missouri.
All the arrangements a beautiful house there and we went from there then good Baba for some days and he had put on the door sill on the top and at the entrance of a whole big straight from a bush of yellow roses a whole Branch filled with yellow little yellow roses. Wild yellow roses with never seen that and that's what we thought at first that it's not.
Not real and then we found that it's real that everywhere you go on Missouri and the path. The hedges are just rose bushes. And Rose Hedges made of that. Anyway, when we were there, it was only here beautiful place. If we went any further up to this Outhouse, we could see the top of some of the Himalayan Mountains so below us as we had to go down the hill to get on the road and go for walks. There was another
Bungalow a cottage but there were two sisters they were English mrs. Mccleod and Miss Cooper. Oh Cooper we don't know her name her initials LL O Koopa, so we got friendly on the way, you know, nothing about that book. We were not we were told not to say and we never mentioned about who he is or what they must have seen him go down. They must have been chosen but no time so she
I'd say how her name was LL kuta but that the Indian necessary worked with the people the help us she wept with but couldn't pronounce El Oso. They would say yellow Koopa and she would tell them I anything but yellow anyway, her sister. Mrs. McLeod had this cocker spaniels and they have those cocker spaniels had a litter of puppies and they got most of them away all of them away except Peter.
Somehow mrs. McLeod said he was special. She wouldn't even leave Missouri in the winter because who would look after the tells her pets it was that kind of thing. Now mrs. This Del L Cooper had been linen Keeper in a big hotel in Agra. So she said she met all the big personalities many of them. She met the other calm there and Errol Flynn and all kinds of names she'd said and one day she said and now
Now met her father. I have met mad because she saw him. Goodbye. She knew the name, but we didn't talk about an engine a Cheban. Anyway, we've got this little Peter from them. I won't go into that because once I get into that story, it's a long story. But then later when we went back to dehradun Peter coming with us and all and it was a bungalow and one day we were seated with Baba in the hall and suddenly this lady walks in
And we were amazed to find that it was mrs. Cooper. Hello Cooper. She just walked in with a surprise. I was reading something to bother and she walked up to Baba and put out a hand Baba shook her hand shake hands with her and said, I'm happy she sat for a while. We just talked to things and then she said well bother I must go fine. So she went again to Baba put out a hand Baba standing up the to put out a hand.
And when Bobby put his hand in hers, she quickly took it and put it on her head flat and said bless me bother we were amazed and Bible said yes and pressed his hand on her head. She walked out. We never saw her again and very shortly after that. She died because I still keep in touch with us and pictures of Peter and all but you see when you're so blessed. So fortunate you can
Because I wanted to do that what must she must have known we never spoke of it. So she finds out the house were living in dehradun. She comes all the way there walks up to Baba Texas hand puts it on her head bless me mother.
I was the kid I think it was about 9 years of age and I don't know what made my parents go there. But later on I hear that my uncle maternal uncle.
My mother's home is here and I'm an American colonies. Yeah, yeah. Yeah at that time. It was a huge place. It belonged to some mohammedan and it's known as Akbar Akbar Paisa bar at the rally was the owner of it was cotton and ginning Factory carpet Factory. They stood guard the cotton ginning.
Take this cotton seeds are and then it was also guarding engineering and pressing it would press into Bales and then export send out to the mills for weaving and all that other thing. So it was a big Factory you here and this is a cotton area that needs to grow not now.
What's a my maternal grandfather was the manager and engineer employed pleased to be here and matching the children grew up my mother grew up to she had her education in Clara Bruce school here that is there. If you notice the board now going, you know, there is a somebody selling books, you know these comics and all that in that same compound. Clara blue is around. Yeah that old.
They used to study. The my uncle's is to study in different schools and all the when they grew up they are from another so my mother grew up she married and she went away with her husband natural so be but away from home at NADA, but my uncle's remained in a Madonna they were going there is some BK some were employed.
In Bombay and some got the employment here in another and one of them became a political leader.
So they were all here.
One day they my mother seems to have received a letter from one of the uncle is here saying that oh
Guess we met.
And there she did he describe their that was demoted subtle personality. You see reminders reminded us of zoroaster having come again.
So my mother's enthusiasm was fired because she was also you see she had studied the lives of the great ones the Saints great ones means not their leaders aren't events of the Saints and all that. She had that inclination from a young age to see these people serve them. Love them. She was a God-fearing woman my mother
I still have the wrong misnomer to say God-fearing because there's nothing to hear. She was a god-loving person. He always used these terms God-fearing and all that. It's not that really speak. It is God loving person.
So
When she hope this her heart wanted to just come back and see who the person is.
And my uncle who is the oldest who was of course, he's no more. He was much older than my mother and he was of it. He was a choice of it.
And he had a huge library and every now and then you tutor my mother and my mother would just listen to his stories and listen to him and revered him not as brother loved him not his brother but revered him somebody great saintly person. He was a bachelor and but he was on a very big Post in one of the moons in aqua regia mama.
So
She told my Uncle he was with her at the time different place. This is the letter to my uncle of course took it with him. Well, he didn't scoff at the I thought of it but you know how curious of his son they are. Very guarded you see in trying to believe anything other than God himself.
So yeah, there are people that are saintly people and all that. We shouldn't jump to conclusions unless we recall we test them that was the bent of Mind of my uncle but my mother was quite different.
So the first opportunity that was afforded was the Christmas holidays that needs to get in the British regime. It was not just one or two days. The children would get a month's holiday that would cover up not only Christmas but also New Year and and further.
So she was waiting for that as soon as we had a Christmas vacation and she gathered her children and came to ahmednagar and when she was there no mother naturally usually the Christmas time.
Are the children's would have to have holidays. So her sister's children her own children of brother's children. They were all gathered in a family home here Salva press
My grandfather was still the manager and engineer still working there that compound that you see now is it has lost lost its beauty. Otherwise, it would be like heaps of snow there, you know cotton all all moms of cotton would be there a very nice atmosphere was that there was also shared their big Orchard was there in the compound all that is
Now it has been rented and all the factories are come up and nothing would come and sit in the garden and Orchards and enjoy picnics and all that. So
What had happened was when my mother came she enquired from my uncle's is when he wrote to us. We'd like to go there. Where are you taking us the day that she arrived. This is oh, he just he just came yesterday with all the children at the time there were boys in Pre mushroom boys, and also Baba would come bring them and have a nice picnic their attack Barbara's Oceanside. We missed them. We should go there. So this is already been go.
So that's how my uncle's provided at the time. There were no buses running or edges is a primal distance. You know, we did have horse tonga's you see and you'll miss the site of the tongass that we had at the time. There were two horses in Tonga broader ones there but now they are no more involved. So they were more commodious then the little contraption that you see you still see tongue has no horse carriages.
They are known as tonga's but one halls but they were two horses also and they were tonga's of Bullock size bottles were used to draw give a cushioned and all that sort of thing. Yeah, you saw it last that side because they are out of work now, so there were bullet and Dark Horse dongers this single tonga's the depending upon how big the family is but apart from all this the families who could afford they used to have the horse carriages also personal.
Victoria's we call them Hackney carriages Holyoke on during the scary about five people can be easily sit like a car horse of yours. So that's we are two of them because big big family there to know they arranged and the family all the my uncle's my aunts. My-my mother and the children who were the
Well, we are driving we get into these carriages but you're asking me how I met so now the story is that when they entered the carriages there was no room for me.
You know, I was a big one so too. It's no good. No good occupying lot of space to could they occupy is instead of me. So if my mother says why don't you get out from there and sit on that the back the back where the boom stands there's a stand holding an umbrella and all that. So now and little flat piece the semester is going to sit there. There is no room here because if you don't sit here that to others will say hi to Big planning.
How old are you? How old are you? I was about nine nine years about so that's how it was. I sat there I enjoyed is nice right legs dangling and all that. No, no encumbrances around you see ya Breezy. So the horse carriages are moving horses are taking us faster and faster and all that.
And I don't know what's happening inside the carriages. They're having a chat in conversation all that. You know, how when especially when this arrest you in family all together loud noise same like juice talents talents to okay, then we are all of the same feather.
So that's how it is. So all of a sudden I hear.
My name my mother shouting my name since energetic jump jump.
And so I without taken unawares you see how the first thing that I used to do is to carry out what my mother says. So I just jumped from that running carriages and when I jumped it was in the opposite direction the momentum is this way and I jump this way means what happens I go flat on my yeah. I don't have the direction to carry on with the momentum.
So I fell flat on my back severely bruised my elbow.
And Charles bleeding. And in the meantime The Carriage is went further and the stopped I can see that and why did my mother asked me to jump here? I don't know. I was surprised myself. So I am just you know, I'd fall when I kill. Luckily. I had good pads. So I didn't matter anything was not it was Bruce but not know bones are cracked or broken or anything, but egg this elbow.
It's terribly bruised. It was Wounded Heart hurting much and blood is dripping there. So I carry my elbow and I'm walking the distance where they are. I don't know where they are going and where why are we leaving? We were told that we are going out for five miles right or something like that. It says children. Okay. So when I go there all are settled around a certain person I see
Who has spotted like this you see who was there?
And there are so I'm going there and I don't know where some the person looks at me and signs there what happened? So somebody says what happened to you. So I told this person that is Baba I said I fell down and I hurt my elbow and it's leaking you bleeding. So Bobby called me and made me sit on his lap and he cut.
Me and what their fondled me and says don't don't worry. Don't cry and he took a hit he bent down and there was the to nip it in front of him that donated that is there on the platform. It was not that the original place. It was somewhere near the roadside at that time.
And he was sitting here. They're all around him as we said here. There are people there.
So he took the ash from there. He dad getting all that. I don't know what he did. He did this in something and took out her handkerchief from there. He must be having handkerchief like serving the stuck there. We got it out and he bandaged my arm this elbow joint and sit down must be too heavy after a while. This is sit here. That's how it works. That was my first meeting with him.
I don't know what transpired but the first thought that I had was his really loving kind person. Nobody even from my family budget orange and the sudden nobody cared for it. So that's how it works. I fell for her. I'm sure you made the jump the recollection is on either side. There was slates at that time and Baba was conversing with this later. He was funny for me. It was nice fun exciting.
To see this man doesn't stock others are all talking and he's silent and he's writing one slave and then somebody reads and the Slate is puts their somebody's clearly said you're raising. Their another slate is taken. It's like that that that picture is still there. But the thought that I had of him was very nice person kind of person as a child loving loving kind person.
That's the first meeting. You don't know to this day why she said jump. I know you're I asked of course. I'm not that to leave her like that when I went back home.
Naturally, I had my band is this that cause if I don't know where that kerchief is now, so I told my mother she's not naturally they took great care of me while returning now so they made me sit there. So while I when I went back home when I was with my mother I asked her so why did you ask me to jump there are still times distance had to be crossed in a why did you do that?
So, you know the funny answer she gives me at the time and still she is that time. So my mother says that at that time the pointed out to me look he's sitting there and as ice my eyes fell on him.
The thought that occurred to her at the time was that how would Barbara feel if we are trying to overload the horse because the whole family yeah. So at Lee's are all the thought was that I'm my presence was the one that was the heaviest spared the horrors, but kill the child.
We're very good to our horses. I said, is that the way yeah, that's the Tata crab.
To see how the mind works. How did it come to be that you end up being with your nine years old and you met him but you didn't stay with him. No, then what happened is it was Christmas vacation? I Told You So vacation means children making sure she knows what happened with Zach. He never remained here or here. He was playing here the jumping and all the supposed to do that whenever every now and then back out call us there.
My mother would want to go every now and then so we'd go there but we won't be nearby but only at the time when he would go all out, you know, so our lunch is he so we'll all be there with the plates on first enroll or tea time. I still remember those days. You know, what delicious taste was there just simple Dal and rice, but it was with condiments be call it, you know some bar type nice and spicy. No nothing Chutney and spices rice and
Dull but it was vertical season. What do you call it spice spice spice seasoning. Yeah seasoning was there so just that the answer. Is there any English name for it? So that was the Bago take the spoon and you have aluminum plates with heaps of aluminum case each one or two take their element and hand. Yeah and thus much I is to eat is in borrowed give me that we used to relish.
The tea time was the best time because at that time people would bring sweets and our baskets of sweets would come home and stuff. Yeah, it's like yeah not this is a stingy person. It's not in my nature to accept that you see if you want to give me give me enough so that here so that I can have my fill all of my just puts one biscuit there. I don't know where it goes. It just disappears in my mouth.
So at the time Bobby is to do handful of jail bees or sweets like that is so it was nice to you. And that was the center of Attraction not Baba for us. Chill chill at least for me. It was as I told you I was Glutton how I ate the apple and all that. So it was fine. It was Paradise for me to play there and nice there were many kids around and all so teatime lunchtime we were
The first to be near the person who served and that person happened to be Baba later on for me in my house. I registered like this.
I was some person who is to give us good food and all that. But every time you see the ttrt time malaria was rampant here in this area in those days. So Baba would at that time there were no capsules or tablets of Queen. I we had powder.
I don't need to import this probably huh. Y9 quinine you call it. We call killing. So what with that sweet he will give a pinch you see of quinine in a queen and but with children he wouldn't do that knowing that they would throw it off. So what they'll say open your mouth if you want the sweet, that's sweet was there you see the attraction of this.
She'll open her mouth. So you put the bitter powder there and the whole mouth will become so bitter and all this is now we'd bow our city. He will be C. But for a long time, it won't go that bitterness to just be there. But this quantity of sweets will be so such that it would gradually overcome the bitterness and mouths will become sweet and that was even attraction, but that was the only part which I
Like near Barbara's know my in my childhood.
So that's how it was. So here's this passed by and we will go back to our school and all that's how it was. I went back to school. Formerly. I was a border in a sick my father had an appointment with government. He was employed by the British government. So he was now on a big post. So my father thought that it's not good for for the child to be a border now he
Have a property can establish himself at one place have a home and all that. So my mother and my two years Kid sisters and myself are now brought in mid comfortable in over a property and we had a bungalow to luminol the spine. So I was put in a school schools at that time with such you know, those years were such that only missionary schools were considered to be the best the rest of the
The schools were not good they when schools but if you want to have your children good education, you should have put them in Mission School missionary schools. Well fathers and brothers would come from Germany and Italy and France and all that. So my father holding such a responsible position loving me the only son, you know how it is when I said we must have good education.
So he put me in that school, although it was at the time too. It was considered to be a bit costly Affair. So I was put there.
And I enjoyed the only thing was that all were Catholics Roman Catholics, and I myself was non-catholic.
So these Catholic boys would treat me as a heathen, you know, they will even call they don't call me a non-catholic on the a he do talk among themselves as those heathens heathens. First of all, I didn't understand the meaning what they mean by heathens and all are gradually I began to understand however by this time I'm nine and a half years 10 years old boy. I can understand all these things. I can see that how we are.
Considered to be different from them and all that and we were according to our standard of living at that time. We were not at all different they were different from us is because my standard of living was such is he and they these refracts called me this that's how the youngster you filled in the mind. But still there was no way out the education was there had to be taken and
The teachers were good kind very kind people so it when I pulled on some years to three year to two years and third year of it was made compulsory. You know, there was that life of Jesus, you know, we call them scripture classes and Catechism classes. So that's how it was it was you forced to take no on the contrary see heathens when I suppose not supposed to take the
Glasses but on the contrary what we had there was a punishment for us. So we had to change our seats and go back behind the class backbenchers.
We had to be there and then revise our lessons and these Catholics would come in the Forefront and they will attend the classes and you just imagine you'll be all passed through that stages. Yes children. If you are supposed to tell the go and revise lessons that the back would you want to do it on the contrary? They say you play a lot of mission and Mischief seems to be my one of the traits you see in my younger age. I used to play a lot of Mischief that with a purpose.
The stubbornness you want me to sit quiet? I won't sit quiet, you know you all know that so when the classes are being held and dissolves solemnity and seriousness, you know, I could hear the venial sins and the cardinal sins and all that hell and heaven being to who cared for hell and heaven one peanut you see with go and hit somebody's here and
Doing that is in look somewhere back. I'm the father would be distracted you see.
Who did that? Nobody always choir?
But somehow or other you see I was spotted out eventually I got caught and one Scott is caught forever. It's no it does the room is coming as yourself come here. This is the way that you be here now.
No, Rod was stayed at that time Rod was much in use at the time to discipline the youngsters here. So now should you get to kneel down put our hands are I'm sorry, but I hands out / is / 4 shots six shots each shots 10 shots always in twos.
Son strongman youngster, I'll take them and just smile and go back who cares for you that was the time. So it's so happened that it went on for a couple of years. We were deprived of play a game or anything of that sort. It went on for two three years much against her will and we are now growing old and we are understanding and we can we know we are aware because when they are you
Journal reports go out annual reports natural they are printed they are have the stamp of the principal and all that and then we grow their back home appearance naturally want my father wants to see how is the progress and what's the matter with you? Why are these so what would happen nowadays? You see your Reckoning is quite changed. We used to have the number of marks a hundred percent.
This is a hundred percent marks and against it to 70% 80% 90% marks that you get 90 marks means 90% 80% So we used to have those and yet our ranks would be lowered. So the sum total would naturally denote the ranks. You stood first. Oh how many percent you got 850 marks. I had since 85 percent, but we missed that because 200 marks from
Heathens were taken away because we never is just because they were hidden. No because we didn't enter we didn't sit for the Examination for catechism and the New Testament and the Old Testament should credits for 200 marks. We'd lose each paper would be a hundred mark. So our ranks would be low and our parents would get wild about it. We are spending so much money. And what are you doing? You're playing there now every time it would be pardoned.
That's the mystics. Yeah, every time you see it would be at the annual reports quarterly reports would still be we're not fools. We are growing now. So we are registering all this and we know the root cause of it is that we are deprived of all this. All right, we don't care this thing. But at least let us go and play outside. We are kept as prisoners there at the back of the class.
That was the turmoil in the youngsters at the time.
Roman Catholic School famous School. Nobody can speak or any other so Mischief was still there because we were young we shouldn't have been so naughty but what can you do? So we used to all sorts of things, you know, you'd stamp and we'd better than peanut was a common thing, you know shooting flying Chi plane or something like that something would be there.
But all of a sudden there'd be a whole bag, you know full of books, you know will drop from right from the top bottom to create noise. You just start sorry. It's happened like that. Any Penny prank that we can think of you all the time there. We disturbances coming. I just I wanna come here and / go back. Once it so happened that something was somebody played it Misha foolish Mission and it must have struck the
To Father himself he sees
It actually the culprit must be just Allah Allah. Is this the way that you behave and this and that and he gave me a long lecture is me down. Come on and he started he lost his temper and he thrashed me real, you know, he used to have benching also need to bend down on the bench and dude / on a fan. He's so it's been down. So all the thrashing that I had of course that was too much to bear now because why because I was not the culprit
I was not the criminal that I you know some person so I will want to Bear it bravely orientation. I rebelled against it now and I didn't speak or anything. I just went as soon as the class was over. I mustered all these non-catholics as it come on. We should report you can't bear all the sort of this is insult like this sort of the let's go to the principal and I had the courage to go. Why because I knew my father had little what you call.
Food or the father depended upon my father means the principal depend on if my father was the head of the engineering department and all that. So they had a Technologic section there. So my father was there the noon
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That be a wolf family. He would have every letter read up to him. I know that even from the beginning he started.
Me on this they wanted me he pushed me to it. So that in that way I could really say it's from Baba to all all of his children because after it was done it was read to him Harris would read out to him and I'd be called and barber said that is the best but then when I found each one was the best it means he was satisfied. He would add he would delete he would say, no, not this
I put that in what about this message and then it would suppose all the time going from him and then when I say I know I was done because after a while even the family lets us group more of my time would go in that and I would discuss with Eric some points with a Francis and all and then I can type out in between whenever I had time and by the time the completed thing got done it took quite some time. So I tell myself heave a sigh of relief.
I won't even think about it for another month. At least you see and in 15 days Bible would look at the new very innocently said and she writing another family letter Baba. So we just can't is very chewy. I mean, so just reach them two weeks ago. Oh, yeah, two days later. Oh you have a busy you were writing the family legend that that really was.
He did to you what no doubt.
I would sit sometimes.
In a room here in which you keep onions is to keep a lot of onions. It's the onion go down. We call it. We still to this day call it the onion go down all the now the onions I think I placed somewhere else plus here, but it is to be full of onions. So when I couldn't type here for some reason, I forget I would go into that room. Somehow managed to put a little tip boy there and a chair and do my typing of the family.
Is there and I think the ammonia probably gave me inspiration more than I would think but I would keep incense sticks there and and I could watch I could watch Barbara's dot the monthly hauled off from their see so I could know when Bob was coming out I could rush hour and then
We had forgotten one thing that that room is the room Baba first sat in seclusion in Meredith. And first we came to matters add Bob established his home here and his base here because many many years were spent. In fact in one place without traveling Bob has spent more time in perizaad than anywhere else. I didn't realize that that's the room.
Baba said in seclusion when he first came to Meredith by itself before we came and settled here, but there is a bubble Ava will be called tribute Will Davis he is so close to trees and plants and things that people refer to them as she as he he would touch a tree and say, oh he's good. He's good and then he touched some woods somewhere and
That he was saying this is good for some you would so when when he came over with me to that side with onion good armoires for some for some reason he touched the wood and said oh, this is good. This is at that time. I said, well, he's crackers. I'm in this good as an old door. This wood is just an old door and the paint peeling off and I thought this tree in Living Wood is something but that's also right now I can take things with a grain of salt.
Even as I thought that in a Flash another flash came to me, but he's right that is when I remembered this is the room Baba said in seclusion in and so this room really has that he felt him.
Yes, he's good that dog.
Said room still here the onion room. Yes. Oh, yes.
That's that last Green Door.
It has a lock on it. Just right across here.
Do you remember which one bubble visited?
Avatars about in 1958. He stayed at the Bellevue Hotel and wisdom that hotel has been demolished but it's all been done in the name of progress.
But do you know that I have an interest in making LED lights stained glass and I particularly like getting old doors stripping them of their paint and restoring putting LED light in them. I've done a lot of them and I was I often would go to Brisbane to the demolition yards. These are the companies that demolish the building and then sell the second-hand materials and I was fortunate
One day to go to the demolition yard that had demolished the Bellevue Hotel and bought five of the doors from the hotel which I have sold two of them now to Baba lovers who were building their homes on my road and they put on a show.
But when we talk of trees, I record something that was unusual to say the least when we were in satara and Baba wasn't for a while in an old place but marriage which was what was the name of the place Bob was with Alicia.
The Mast wasn't Jag rila, it was not but no, but it's why you're late.
Book as Bangla probably I don't know if it's an older little place a rooms couple of rooms man was so Bob was in seclusion there and the must Alicia was within that gentle beautiful mask you have seen pictures of him, but gentle Biden beard and he would so Mara and I were told to go and see him twice a week.
Some some period like that. Otherwise, it was an absolute seclusion. None of the others could say so once when we went there along the walk to look at them lovely walks in satara. We walked to the place we've been in with Baba see the bubbles showed us Alicia and just sat around Baba asks some things and outside that house was a big tree a fresh green tree with lovely fresh green leaves. We always remembered that like,
Before you enter you see that tree and one day as we came out of Barbara's room to go back to our place Grafton. We saw that the tree was broken the top of the tank was broken. There was a that been a a sort of a window to it and there was a live fire.
There was a friend not just a frame there was a fire but the the trunk was green the leaves that Brian that had fallen down was green the rest of the leaves on it with green and here it was a bright fire love. It was a lovely sight to see this fire blazing and a green green tree. So when we told baba, but I think we had we went back the next day and barber said that was
How is what?
That was a spark that flew out from the work he was doing that was the significance of it was his work. That's the only thing you said and I realized that that's why we cover was terrifically unusual just to see it. And then of course we listen to these lines of the gazelles, which was sent to Baba and here's this lover who said who says
Who has this glass of wine it sort of divine significance. I mean is not meant in the sense that we understand it. But here the lover has this glass of wine at the Beloved is poured and he holds it and in the agony of his love the tears have fallen into the glass and mixed with the wine. So this lover tells someone don't touch my glass.
Are your hands will burn?
There is the fire of my love has mixed with the wine. Don't touch it things like that. We we cannot even have a glimpse and barber tells us that Divine love is an ocean of fire that it is. No joke, but this path is not for the weak-hearted the faith cited and that is why it is the real Warriors of those who can go through this this this path in this life in obedience in love.
And then there was this other song in which the pigeon says the pigeon that's carrying.
At message and note from the lava to the Beloved the carrier pigeon and the lover says that the pigeon that was carrying my my my note to my beloved the pigeon was burned because of the fire that was in in the pain the words that I wrote It's that's why Barber used to when he would talk about by John and he would say
She was Emperor and that that was not not for the faint-hearted that you have. She was real man in the real sense. And that is why Baba taught himself herself never referred to herself or allowed anybody to refer to her as a woman imagine. She would have been called Imagine by rights in the ordinary way, but she was Baba.
Can anybody did call her imagined? She would be at the but that
And that's what papa says when that happens. That is nothing to say nothing you it's his silence then and the and the illustration which I've said a number of times have I would say we want to know through the mind that which is beyond the mind which mind cannot touch but we can only take it in through the mind so we asked him for explanations of things.
Which are beyond the mind to please give it to us so we can take it through the night. So Baba one day said because he is so compassionate it comes to our level he gives, you know to each one in as we can digest at this wicked taken but he says that it once he gives us illustration. He said supposing supposing a child were to come to you someone grown up and married was sitting before him, but the question was going on.
Between him and bottom. So Baba said supposing a a child comes to you and says tell me tell me all about marriage.
How could you tell when the child grows up? He will know from his experience what marriage means what sex means what white means all that. She will know then there will be no no question once he knows that is nothing to question. But if you were to ask you, what would you say how you can say, but how would you make the child know that you can tell the child about the wedding?
You can tell him that the bride wore that is the groom did that and the Mother-in-law cried and the cake was so big and what it contain and the rate was such and such and the lace was from Italy in about was making these gestures. I'm making the words. Oh the Bible says when you ask me, I'm really telling you about the wedding.
But when inside you you know of that marriage, then there are signs. There's nothing to ask nothing to say.
Father when he would even explain like that, it was Simplicity itself because truth is simple mama said once seated right here something had happened and Bible said it is so simple that is almost impossible.
Because we cannot take the simple. We must have some shape. We must have trimmings. We must have both we must have color. We must have something that which attracts so naturally but the real is so simple.
So then Bob would say things like that to me. They have been the real service real discusses casually like like this that I just described or like somebody who always was harping on God realization. We don't even know what we're talking about when we talk of things like that and and ask him to you know, just to tell you but but what can you tell so so when this person is always somebody visiting by the way none, who are
Being with him at questions and if they had because somebody else had a question. So this person was there and again, you know, very late to talk about the God realization is that God realization and Papa said to him there were no carpets here, by the way, it's just Shabbat stone flooring. We have a stove Glory underneath this so Papa just pointed to that and he said you see that
The man look yes. Yes. Yes Stone and Bob has asked him a question. What is the difference between that stone and you as a person hand so he knows that that's a lotta different Stone and me. He said exactly said Baba that is the difference between you and a god-realized state.
After that the man who never brother.
The time when he told Mother and mother was a pain to find the cheese fasting and not eating that is observing silence because his voice was beautiful even his detractors, even our community who harassed mother so much in the beginning who couldn't take him to be what he is and who
Really, but all are to have as mother because she was his mother even they conceded that is true. He had a beautiful voice. Yes.
And then they would look like and they say well, even when we were doing our work cooking washing dishes no matter what we would hear him sing them on a job in Persia. We would stop to listen and then they would come down to earth and say but that's not enough. That's not enough to give himself airs as to who does he think he is so they couldn't take it. Yes. So so even at paint mother the chair
He should observe silence in prison is voice no longer talk saying he loved doing that and also that he would fast you see that picture. The last one on the left that is after a long fast, but that does not mean that Bob would sit in a room fasting but was more energetic but we would do everything. I mean you have to keep running after him as a matter fact we still do but you know, Bobby was just so
Vibrant, but then it pain mother as to see her son fasting being on silence. So at that time all those around by were very young and so mother one day said maril. Why do you have to fast? Why do you have to keep the silence? You have nothing to gain? So you're doing it for them? That's what you say. So why not make that do it make this should surround Jamaican, dude.
Then observe silence made them up the observe fast and then Papa said something.
He said it'd be all but you see gestures we interpret to our understanding or to the circumstance in which these gestures were made, but this could have meant the universe. This is all around him. This could mean the whole world. This could mean the whole universe. Anyway, this was his gesture. He said if own observed fast, but the rest of their lives
It wouldn't equal one day of my fast and it all observe silence for the rest of their lives. It wouldn't equal 1 hour of my silence.
And mother didn't say anything after that. So you see that these
That he does for us on our behalf. But because he's Perfection as I said, the fruits are perfect. We could do it whole lives all together all of us together. It wouldn't equal one day of his fasting. So if he fast for months, just imagine what we reap.
What Harbors does hours from his doing all from the cylons? That's why when Baba gave silence to somebody and that person wanted to continue silence Carlos angry guy means I Splash she said You observe silence only when I tell you that has meaning and then he also explained that when you have silenced yourself your desire is and last greed and anger and all.
Even as a person only then you're observing silence can have any meaning except when it's for me.
By the 10th July or when I tell you to keep silence and the same thing for the fast when you are faster yourself inside so that there is nothing then if You observe first it has it has a fruit. Otherwise the Baba said is good. If you keep silence, it will help everybody else you talk too much anyway.
Yes these little 7th and there's the one which everybody I think that's heard so many times and I think Dara has on his tape at The Hive times but some of you might like to hear this because errors always reminds me about this assault was shot. You know, we had a Cocker Spaniel.
His name was Peter. He was.
Very much with Baba even on his travel since 1953, which is when we got him in Missouri. He was second in Bob has affection for pets first was must an epic that dog but this little Peter wise little fellow who was always with Bobby whatever Bob would go for a walk or when he would come from there from the women's side to be in the mandalas Hall in the mornings and in the afternoons potato was there before in flapping his long ears and he would then
Come and lie down about us. We talked about a set right here and he had a habit of snoring very much like a human skull. In fact, I was stunned one day when I was in Bobby's room and we women were sitting seated around him and I was reading out one of the books Tolkien or would also direct style to something and I have to snore and I said, I can't believe it Baba she did before us.
Hey, who's that snoring? I looked at nausea. No, she had her eyes closed, but she wasn't asleep. I looked at each of them and suddenly I realized the snow was almost underneath my chair and that was Peter. So what kind of sleep here and snore and and whenever to somebody had to show Baba something across there to go across Peter. Everything had to be done A cross B. There's a bottle would lean over and they would lean around. So Bob called me one day. They should be two bills at the
Monthly Hellgate this big door a bigger one was for go home run by the wanted to her and it would ring that Bell when Barbra wanted me there was this smaller belt. So one day my little bell rang. I rushed from where I was doing some typing Baba was seated here and it's love at this look at this fellow and he was snowing Peter was snowing right at his feet. We all laughed and as a publisher like taken away. Does it disturb you?
Let the Mugabe labor. So I meant just two days later again the bell rang again. I was called so I'm in the little bell rang and I came again. It was the same scene that was Barba seated here. And there was Peter line at his feet and disturb. You mustn't just lie quietly and snoring he was dreaming and he was excited and I was his paws were going so far.
Just that had been cycling at the 50 miles an hour in very fast, and it was very excited and he was making all this stuff.
And as Bob was so fired that the year came forward and what I was completely covered, you know that actress care about others and karakasa. Well, he was like that. He was very excited and I thought again just to show me. You know, how I'm using all this is but then the opposite something which track me later.
As mother of my little as as one of his simple sermons as I call it like the ones that I described to you now and Baba looked at him and said look at it. He thinks some wild animal is chasing him or he's been chased by wild animal and he's Crossing through the desert over the mountains.
Crossing rivers and is just just bubbles doing and he he thinks that's what all he's doing and yet all the time. He is safe and sound at my feet.
After I'll bust go and I went and then it struck me as the Bible saying is that's what we go through. We think we're going to roll this some look what we're doing and all this is happening and help and every purpose is don't worry because all the time we are safe and sound at his feet.
There is he would go with Baba also for walks and sitaram and David would go over and I would come in the afternoon when he would return. He would tell us some funny things that Peter did and Bobby said Peter thinks he's a cat he goes up a tree and then it did go up to the tip of the branch ones, but he couldn't turn around and then even proud.
And always used to take baths in that farm.
Yes, you know that reminds me of the family. We got Peter from as a very interesting story. Just one little story now. I have to go we were in, Missouri.
All the arrangements a beautiful house there and we went from there then good Baba for some days and he had put on the door sill on the top and at the entrance of a whole big straight from a bush of yellow roses a whole Branch filled with yellow little yellow roses. Wild yellow roses with never seen that and that's what we thought at first that it's not.
Not real and then we found that it's real that everywhere you go on Missouri and the path. The hedges are just rose bushes. And Rose Hedges made of that. Anyway, when we were there, it was only here beautiful place. If we went any further up to this Outhouse, we could see the top of some of the Himalayan Mountains so below us as we had to go down the hill to get on the road and go for walks. There was another
Bungalow a cottage but there were two sisters they were English mrs. Mccleod and Miss Cooper. Oh Cooper we don't know her name her initials LL O Koopa, so we got friendly on the way, you know, nothing about that book. We were not we were told not to say and we never mentioned about who he is or what they must have seen him go down. They must have been chosen but no time so she
I'd say how her name was LL kuta but that the Indian necessary worked with the people the help us she wept with but couldn't pronounce El Oso. They would say yellow Koopa and she would tell them I anything but yellow anyway, her sister. Mrs. McLeod had this cocker spaniels and they have those cocker spaniels had a litter of puppies and they got most of them away all of them away except Peter.
Somehow mrs. McLeod said he was special. She wouldn't even leave Missouri in the winter because who would look after the tells her pets it was that kind of thing. Now mrs. This Del L Cooper had been linen Keeper in a big hotel in Agra. So she said she met all the big personalities many of them. She met the other calm there and Errol Flynn and all kinds of names she'd said and one day she said and now
Now met her father. I have met mad because she saw him. Goodbye. She knew the name, but we didn't talk about an engine a Cheban. Anyway, we've got this little Peter from them. I won't go into that because once I get into that story, it's a long story. But then later when we went back to dehradun Peter coming with us and all and it was a bungalow and one day we were seated with Baba in the hall and suddenly this lady walks in
And we were amazed to find that it was mrs. Cooper. Hello Cooper. She just walked in with a surprise. I was reading something to bother and she walked up to Baba and put out a hand Baba shook her hand shake hands with her and said, I'm happy she sat for a while. We just talked to things and then she said well bother I must go fine. So she went again to Baba put out a hand Baba standing up the to put out a hand.
And when Bobby put his hand in hers, she quickly took it and put it on her head flat and said bless me bother we were amazed and Bible said yes and pressed his hand on her head. She walked out. We never saw her again and very shortly after that. She died because I still keep in touch with us and pictures of Peter and all but you see when you're so blessed. So fortunate you can
Because I wanted to do that what must she must have known we never spoke of it. So she finds out the house were living in dehradun. She comes all the way there walks up to Baba Texas hand puts it on her head bless me mother.
I was the kid I think it was about 9 years of age and I don't know what made my parents go there. But later on I hear that my uncle maternal uncle.
My mother's home is here and I'm an American colonies. Yeah, yeah. Yeah at that time. It was a huge place. It belonged to some mohammedan and it's known as Akbar Akbar Paisa bar at the rally was the owner of it was cotton and ginning Factory carpet Factory. They stood guard the cotton ginning.
Take this cotton seeds are and then it was also guarding engineering and pressing it would press into Bales and then export send out to the mills for weaving and all that other thing. So it was a big Factory you here and this is a cotton area that needs to grow not now.
What's a my maternal grandfather was the manager and engineer employed pleased to be here and matching the children grew up my mother grew up to she had her education in Clara Bruce school here that is there. If you notice the board now going, you know, there is a somebody selling books, you know these comics and all that in that same compound. Clara blue is around. Yeah that old.
They used to study. The my uncle's is to study in different schools and all the when they grew up they are from another so my mother grew up she married and she went away with her husband natural so be but away from home at NADA, but my uncle's remained in a Madonna they were going there is some BK some were employed.
In Bombay and some got the employment here in another and one of them became a political leader.
So they were all here.
One day they my mother seems to have received a letter from one of the uncle is here saying that oh
Guess we met.
And there she did he describe their that was demoted subtle personality. You see reminders reminded us of zoroaster having come again.
So my mother's enthusiasm was fired because she was also you see she had studied the lives of the great ones the Saints great ones means not their leaders aren't events of the Saints and all that. She had that inclination from a young age to see these people serve them. Love them. She was a God-fearing woman my mother
I still have the wrong misnomer to say God-fearing because there's nothing to hear. She was a god-loving person. He always used these terms God-fearing and all that. It's not that really speak. It is God loving person.
So
When she hope this her heart wanted to just come back and see who the person is.
And my uncle who is the oldest who was of course, he's no more. He was much older than my mother and he was of it. He was a choice of it.
And he had a huge library and every now and then you tutor my mother and my mother would just listen to his stories and listen to him and revered him not as brother loved him not his brother but revered him somebody great saintly person. He was a bachelor and but he was on a very big Post in one of the moons in aqua regia mama.
So
She told my Uncle he was with her at the time different place. This is the letter to my uncle of course took it with him. Well, he didn't scoff at the I thought of it but you know how curious of his son they are. Very guarded you see in trying to believe anything other than God himself.
So yeah, there are people that are saintly people and all that. We shouldn't jump to conclusions unless we recall we test them that was the bent of Mind of my uncle but my mother was quite different.
So the first opportunity that was afforded was the Christmas holidays that needs to get in the British regime. It was not just one or two days. The children would get a month's holiday that would cover up not only Christmas but also New Year and and further.
So she was waiting for that as soon as we had a Christmas vacation and she gathered her children and came to ahmednagar and when she was there no mother naturally usually the Christmas time.
Are the children's would have to have holidays. So her sister's children her own children of brother's children. They were all gathered in a family home here Salva press
My grandfather was still the manager and engineer still working there that compound that you see now is it has lost lost its beauty. Otherwise, it would be like heaps of snow there, you know cotton all all moms of cotton would be there a very nice atmosphere was that there was also shared their big Orchard was there in the compound all that is
Now it has been rented and all the factories are come up and nothing would come and sit in the garden and Orchards and enjoy picnics and all that. So
What had happened was when my mother came she enquired from my uncle's is when he wrote to us. We'd like to go there. Where are you taking us the day that she arrived. This is oh, he just he just came yesterday with all the children at the time there were boys in Pre mushroom boys, and also Baba would come bring them and have a nice picnic their attack Barbara's Oceanside. We missed them. We should go there. So this is already been go.
So that's how my uncle's provided at the time. There were no buses running or edges is a primal distance. You know, we did have horse tonga's you see and you'll miss the site of the tongass that we had at the time. There were two horses in Tonga broader ones there but now they are no more involved. So they were more commodious then the little contraption that you see you still see tongue has no horse carriages.
They are known as tonga's but one halls but they were two horses also and they were tonga's of Bullock size bottles were used to draw give a cushioned and all that sort of thing. Yeah, you saw it last that side because they are out of work now, so there were bullet and Dark Horse dongers this single tonga's the depending upon how big the family is but apart from all this the families who could afford they used to have the horse carriages also personal.
Victoria's we call them Hackney carriages Holyoke on during the scary about five people can be easily sit like a car horse of yours. So that's we are two of them because big big family there to know they arranged and the family all the my uncle's my aunts. My-my mother and the children who were the
Well, we are driving we get into these carriages but you're asking me how I met so now the story is that when they entered the carriages there was no room for me.
You know, I was a big one so too. It's no good. No good occupying lot of space to could they occupy is instead of me. So if my mother says why don't you get out from there and sit on that the back the back where the boom stands there's a stand holding an umbrella and all that. So now and little flat piece the semester is going to sit there. There is no room here because if you don't sit here that to others will say hi to Big planning.
How old are you? How old are you? I was about nine nine years about so that's how it was. I sat there I enjoyed is nice right legs dangling and all that. No, no encumbrances around you see ya Breezy. So the horse carriages are moving horses are taking us faster and faster and all that.
And I don't know what's happening inside the carriages. They're having a chat in conversation all that. You know, how when especially when this arrest you in family all together loud noise same like juice talents talents to okay, then we are all of the same feather.
So that's how it is. So all of a sudden I hear.
My name my mother shouting my name since energetic jump jump.
And so I without taken unawares you see how the first thing that I used to do is to carry out what my mother says. So I just jumped from that running carriages and when I jumped it was in the opposite direction the momentum is this way and I jump this way means what happens I go flat on my yeah. I don't have the direction to carry on with the momentum.
So I fell flat on my back severely bruised my elbow.
And Charles bleeding. And in the meantime The Carriage is went further and the stopped I can see that and why did my mother asked me to jump here? I don't know. I was surprised myself. So I am just you know, I'd fall when I kill. Luckily. I had good pads. So I didn't matter anything was not it was Bruce but not know bones are cracked or broken or anything, but egg this elbow.
It's terribly bruised. It was Wounded Heart hurting much and blood is dripping there. So I carry my elbow and I'm walking the distance where they are. I don't know where they are going and where why are we leaving? We were told that we are going out for five miles right or something like that. It says children. Okay. So when I go there all are settled around a certain person I see
Who has spotted like this you see who was there?
And there are so I'm going there and I don't know where some the person looks at me and signs there what happened? So somebody says what happened to you. So I told this person that is Baba I said I fell down and I hurt my elbow and it's leaking you bleeding. So Bobby called me and made me sit on his lap and he cut.
Me and what their fondled me and says don't don't worry. Don't cry and he took a hit he bent down and there was the to nip it in front of him that donated that is there on the platform. It was not that the original place. It was somewhere near the roadside at that time.
And he was sitting here. They're all around him as we said here. There are people there.
So he took the ash from there. He dad getting all that. I don't know what he did. He did this in something and took out her handkerchief from there. He must be having handkerchief like serving the stuck there. We got it out and he bandaged my arm this elbow joint and sit down must be too heavy after a while. This is sit here. That's how it works. That was my first meeting with him.
I don't know what transpired but the first thought that I had was his really loving kind person. Nobody even from my family budget orange and the sudden nobody cared for it. So that's how it works. I fell for her. I'm sure you made the jump the recollection is on either side. There was slates at that time and Baba was conversing with this later. He was funny for me. It was nice fun exciting.
To see this man doesn't stock others are all talking and he's silent and he's writing one slave and then somebody reads and the Slate is puts their somebody's clearly said you're raising. Their another slate is taken. It's like that that that picture is still there. But the thought that I had of him was very nice person kind of person as a child loving loving kind person.
That's the first meeting. You don't know to this day why she said jump. I know you're I asked of course. I'm not that to leave her like that when I went back home.
Naturally, I had my band is this that cause if I don't know where that kerchief is now, so I told my mother she's not naturally they took great care of me while returning now so they made me sit there. So while I when I went back home when I was with my mother I asked her so why did you ask me to jump there are still times distance had to be crossed in a why did you do that?
So, you know the funny answer she gives me at the time and still she is that time. So my mother says that at that time the pointed out to me look he's sitting there and as ice my eyes fell on him.
The thought that occurred to her at the time was that how would Barbara feel if we are trying to overload the horse because the whole family yeah. So at Lee's are all the thought was that I'm my presence was the one that was the heaviest spared the horrors, but kill the child.
We're very good to our horses. I said, is that the way yeah, that's the Tata crab.
To see how the mind works. How did it come to be that you end up being with your nine years old and you met him but you didn't stay with him. No, then what happened is it was Christmas vacation? I Told You So vacation means children making sure she knows what happened with Zach. He never remained here or here. He was playing here the jumping and all the supposed to do that whenever every now and then back out call us there.
My mother would want to go every now and then so we'd go there but we won't be nearby but only at the time when he would go all out, you know, so our lunch is he so we'll all be there with the plates on first enroll or tea time. I still remember those days. You know, what delicious taste was there just simple Dal and rice, but it was with condiments be call it, you know some bar type nice and spicy. No nothing Chutney and spices rice and
Dull but it was vertical season. What do you call it spice spice spice seasoning. Yeah seasoning was there so just that the answer. Is there any English name for it? So that was the Bago take the spoon and you have aluminum plates with heaps of aluminum case each one or two take their element and hand. Yeah and thus much I is to eat is in borrowed give me that we used to relish.
The tea time was the best time because at that time people would bring sweets and our baskets of sweets would come home and stuff. Yeah, it's like yeah not this is a stingy person. It's not in my nature to accept that you see if you want to give me give me enough so that here so that I can have my fill all of my just puts one biscuit there. I don't know where it goes. It just disappears in my mouth.
So at the time Bobby is to do handful of jail bees or sweets like that is so it was nice to you. And that was the center of Attraction not Baba for us. Chill chill at least for me. It was as I told you I was Glutton how I ate the apple and all that. So it was fine. It was Paradise for me to play there and nice there were many kids around and all so teatime lunchtime we were
The first to be near the person who served and that person happened to be Baba later on for me in my house. I registered like this.
I was some person who is to give us good food and all that. But every time you see the ttrt time malaria was rampant here in this area in those days. So Baba would at that time there were no capsules or tablets of Queen. I we had powder.
I don't need to import this probably huh. Y9 quinine you call it. We call killing. So what with that sweet he will give a pinch you see of quinine in a queen and but with children he wouldn't do that knowing that they would throw it off. So what they'll say open your mouth if you want the sweet, that's sweet was there you see the attraction of this.
She'll open her mouth. So you put the bitter powder there and the whole mouth will become so bitter and all this is now we'd bow our city. He will be C. But for a long time, it won't go that bitterness to just be there. But this quantity of sweets will be so such that it would gradually overcome the bitterness and mouths will become sweet and that was even attraction, but that was the only part which I
Like near Barbara's know my in my childhood.
So that's how it was. So here's this passed by and we will go back to our school and all that's how it was. I went back to school. Formerly. I was a border in a sick my father had an appointment with government. He was employed by the British government. So he was now on a big post. So my father thought that it's not good for for the child to be a border now he
Have a property can establish himself at one place have a home and all that. So my mother and my two years Kid sisters and myself are now brought in mid comfortable in over a property and we had a bungalow to luminol the spine. So I was put in a school schools at that time with such you know, those years were such that only missionary schools were considered to be the best the rest of the
The schools were not good they when schools but if you want to have your children good education, you should have put them in Mission School missionary schools. Well fathers and brothers would come from Germany and Italy and France and all that. So my father holding such a responsible position loving me the only son, you know how it is when I said we must have good education.
So he put me in that school, although it was at the time too. It was considered to be a bit costly Affair. So I was put there.
And I enjoyed the only thing was that all were Catholics Roman Catholics, and I myself was non-catholic.
So these Catholic boys would treat me as a heathen, you know, they will even call they don't call me a non-catholic on the a he do talk among themselves as those heathens heathens. First of all, I didn't understand the meaning what they mean by heathens and all are gradually I began to understand however by this time I'm nine and a half years 10 years old boy. I can understand all these things. I can see that how we are.
Considered to be different from them and all that and we were according to our standard of living at that time. We were not at all different they were different from us is because my standard of living was such is he and they these refracts called me this that's how the youngster you filled in the mind. But still there was no way out the education was there had to be taken and
The teachers were good kind very kind people so it when I pulled on some years to three year to two years and third year of it was made compulsory. You know, there was that life of Jesus, you know, we call them scripture classes and Catechism classes. So that's how it was it was you forced to take no on the contrary see heathens when I suppose not supposed to take the
Glasses but on the contrary what we had there was a punishment for us. So we had to change our seats and go back behind the class backbenchers.
We had to be there and then revise our lessons and these Catholics would come in the Forefront and they will attend the classes and you just imagine you'll be all passed through that stages. Yes children. If you are supposed to tell the go and revise lessons that the back would you want to do it on the contrary? They say you play a lot of mission and Mischief seems to be my one of the traits you see in my younger age. I used to play a lot of Mischief that with a purpose.
The stubbornness you want me to sit quiet? I won't sit quiet, you know you all know that so when the classes are being held and dissolves solemnity and seriousness, you know, I could hear the venial sins and the cardinal sins and all that hell and heaven being to who cared for hell and heaven one peanut you see with go and hit somebody's here and
Doing that is in look somewhere back. I'm the father would be distracted you see.
Who did that? Nobody always choir?
But somehow or other you see I was spotted out eventually I got caught and one Scott is caught forever. It's no it does the room is coming as yourself come here. This is the way that you be here now.
No, Rod was stayed at that time Rod was much in use at the time to discipline the youngsters here. So now should you get to kneel down put our hands are I'm sorry, but I hands out / is / 4 shots six shots each shots 10 shots always in twos.
Son strongman youngster, I'll take them and just smile and go back who cares for you that was the time. So it's so happened that it went on for a couple of years. We were deprived of play a game or anything of that sort. It went on for two three years much against her will and we are now growing old and we are understanding and we can we know we are aware because when they are you
Journal reports go out annual reports natural they are printed they are have the stamp of the principal and all that and then we grow their back home appearance naturally want my father wants to see how is the progress and what's the matter with you? Why are these so what would happen nowadays? You see your Reckoning is quite changed. We used to have the number of marks a hundred percent.
This is a hundred percent marks and against it to 70% 80% 90% marks that you get 90 marks means 90% 80% So we used to have those and yet our ranks would be lowered. So the sum total would naturally denote the ranks. You stood first. Oh how many percent you got 850 marks. I had since 85 percent, but we missed that because 200 marks from
Heathens were taken away because we never is just because they were hidden. No because we didn't enter we didn't sit for the Examination for catechism and the New Testament and the Old Testament should credits for 200 marks. We'd lose each paper would be a hundred mark. So our ranks would be low and our parents would get wild about it. We are spending so much money. And what are you doing? You're playing there now every time it would be pardoned.
That's the mystics. Yeah, every time you see it would be at the annual reports quarterly reports would still be we're not fools. We are growing now. So we are registering all this and we know the root cause of it is that we are deprived of all this. All right, we don't care this thing. But at least let us go and play outside. We are kept as prisoners there at the back of the class.
That was the turmoil in the youngsters at the time.
Roman Catholic School famous School. Nobody can speak or any other so Mischief was still there because we were young we shouldn't have been so naughty but what can you do? So we used to all sorts of things, you know, you'd stamp and we'd better than peanut was a common thing, you know shooting flying Chi plane or something like that something would be there.
But all of a sudden there'd be a whole bag, you know full of books, you know will drop from right from the top bottom to create noise. You just start sorry. It's happened like that. Any Penny prank that we can think of you all the time there. We disturbances coming. I just I wanna come here and / go back. Once it so happened that something was somebody played it Misha foolish Mission and it must have struck the
To Father himself he sees
It actually the culprit must be just Allah Allah. Is this the way that you behave and this and that and he gave me a long lecture is me down. Come on and he started he lost his temper and he thrashed me real, you know, he used to have benching also need to bend down on the bench and dude / on a fan. He's so it's been down. So all the thrashing that I had of course that was too much to bear now because why because I was not the culprit
I was not the criminal that I you know some person so I will want to Bear it bravely orientation. I rebelled against it now and I didn't speak or anything. I just went as soon as the class was over. I mustered all these non-catholics as it come on. We should report you can't bear all the sort of this is insult like this sort of the let's go to the principal and I had the courage to go. Why because I knew my father had little what you call.
Food or the father depended upon my father means the principal depend on if my father was the head of the engineering department and all that. So they had a Technologic section there. So my father was there the noon
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