Meher Baba Manifesting

Seven Secretes

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I feel a real privilege to be able to do this surely some may say she's just another common California Psychic but no common, California psychic would know seven spiritual secrets of Meher Baba. So it is indeed an honor and a privilege to introduce to you the person who is going to share those secrets are beloved Filis Frederik.

Thank you, Louis -and Jai Baba.

Actually ah, it's some tough acts to follow here, but I'll do my best. My spiritual secrets kind of got away there more than 7. The first virtual secret is not to promise to give a talk at the Sahavas, but we'll skip that one.

I got the first two from Virginia Small who got it from one of the Mandali. Very special Secrets Baba actually called them secrets and I enjoyed them so much that I did put them in the Awakener. The first one is never hurt the heart of anyone.

And that is really the whole love trip in a nutshell. People have asked me what does that mean? Does that mean you can't be honest. You can't share feelings, can't be angry with someone. I think we all know how important it is to communicate and share feelings. But if you do it in a sense of love that you want to express how you feel toward another person. Even if it's a negative thing ah that neutralizes it because sometimes we do have to be honest. Baba said another thing absolute honesty. You've all heard that and that includes many levels of honesty. It just doesn't mean don't cheat on your income tax - about a day off at work so forth. It does mean emotional honesty. So there's a fine line there. How you deal with sharing feelings with others and yet never hurting them and plus all the things that you might do that hurt someone. I know I hurt people and I'm glad that I have friends that tell me when I hurt them because it helps to learn. We got to help each other learn and that regard and the second one was to be grateful to God everyday.

And that gratefulness has many forms and I've tried to put it to myself this way. You know, I wake up like everybody else kind of grouchy sometimes and I need my coffee. I think I shared that with Elizabeth. She wasn't conscious that she had her coffee. Baba was very good always had coffee for her. I understand on the blue bus tour she had her early morning coffee.

But you can wake up and say thank you, Baba. Thank God. It's such a wonderful. I know it's a terrible cliche. But to be alive is such a marvelous thing little things are so wonderful. Just when you've been ill for example, which I have very ill and you just think well, the body is a wreck and everything miserable and you get well you appreciate such tiny things, you know, like a spot of sunlight quivering on the floor or flowers are crazy insect flying around what a miracle and just to be alive of such a privilege and to know about Baba is a super privilege.

And I know I have tons of pictures in my house, but just one I can see when I get up. Just wake up and Baba's eyes seem to be focused on me and I say thank you Baba and then when all those little nasties happen, I try to say thank you. And that's the hard part to thank Baba from for something that is unpleasant or difficult, but he has said for example when Jean Schloss, Jean Adriel, left the ashram in Nasik she said thank you Baba for for the wonderful time with you the happy time with you. A Baba said don't thank me for the happy time. Thank me for the suffering and Baba gave me a little lesson in that to almost at the same time in 56. That Baba had his hip problems same for all of us, people had hip problems including me and my hip went completely out. I couldn't walk and all that and it never did get totally better. But especially in 56 58 and 62. Baba would greet me in the morning. He'd go like this. How's your hip and I'd go how's your hip and then one time at 58 it really got bad at Myrtle Beach. Suddenly, Baba knew I hadn't said any thing to anybody and he called me in his little lagoon cabin. I said, how's the hip and thought I said Baba kind of *** now with him and he looked at me and you know, Baba looked like an eternity. It's just you know, how long you've been looking into those eyes. And I've always said I'd give you a little bit of my infinite suffering.

And I knew. I kind of consciously said Baba Hail Mary. Totally out of my conscious but maybe unconsciously but it was like a privilege to share Baba's suffering and I relate that now too things that happen to myself or to anyone else that you are sharing a great privilege with Baba and he did say that during his many times he'd send this the message you are so lucky to be sharing with Me during this period of my suffering or my humiliation. And I once thought that experience a very dramatic way in a way. In 52 we had the privilege of one meeting with Baba completely alone with no Mandali in the room at all. And that was when I was lucky enough Baba said have you any questions and I really at that point I was so blissed out by Baba that I didn't answer and he said those who ask for nothing get everything. So I lucked out. But then immediately my real subconscious mind came up with a lot of the question why to had I suffered so much and Baba took my arm took, this left arm, which I find interesting.

Took it. Took the wrist like that and he made me feel like you'd say the blood of Christ going through your body with the infinite suffering. Just a tiny feeling of Christ's suffering. And you never again in a sense ever say why do I suffer?

It's a mystical thing. I it was no words to it, but I'm skipping around, you know, I always do forget notes. But anyway. So another time we were with Baba at the end of my trip and 56 and behind the scenes of this trip, which about 80 people took with Baba all the way from New York to Myrtle Beach to Hollywood and then up to San Francisco.

Behind the scenes with there was a lot of squabbling going. I still don't know the whole story. I sense that it was about money and I thought many years later that's our sanskaras. That's the American sanskaras which is what we blamed for. Anyway, I materialism. So there was always - so Baba called us in at the end for this group meeting and he made each person who was involved in this fortunately it wasn't me but get up and speak their piece and then harmonize and then he said to us - it was so cute when Baba started this meeting, you know, he had one eye very severe the right eye. And the left eye the little twinkle that I always say the right eye, you know is wisdom in the left eye, is love, you know, so then he said I want you to have one percent of my infinite patience with each other and I thought right away 1% of infinity. You're stuck.

Like I mean 1% of infinity is infinite patience. So get that infinite patience with each other and then we got this wonderful hug. He made us first he asked for the prayer of repentance and none of nobody knew then it then bad and Kitty ran to get a copy and she recited for all of us and I swore then I'd memorize it and then Baba it said now I forgive you all your I don't think you can use the word sins but something similar.

Up till today come and hug me and that was a wonderful hug. It was just wonderful. And we experience Baba's patients with us. So we have to have 1% of infinity patience with each other. And as I said yesterday on the panel the secret that he gave to the men in the men's darshan and 54 was to think of him at least once a day Baba and another phrase that dress yourself with me with Baba in the morning put Baba on in the morning. So when you go into your bathroom and he look at that haggard face, you know. Jai Baba! I have another secret face is on my desk and mirror. ***. Which came in a letter to me in 1948.

Everything happens by God's will

And that is a thought that is very profound. I had written him about my sister who is mentally ill. Those big problem things. And that was the first sentence in the letter. Everything happens by God's Will and it's worth thinking about.

And the next one I got from Margaret Craske because you heard a little bit about who I certainly can think of her as a role model. At least for me. She was one of the few Baba disciples have really had a career where you punch the time clock every day and have to work earn your own living and that's what I've had to do and she's a great example of carrying Baba into the world into her work into the daily routine. And she said be like a rag doll with Baba and she told me this before Baba came and I always wonderful hints I got from Baba close disciples before I met Baba helped me a great deal. I think I'm this being a rag doll. It's sort of like the dancing, you know, the rag doll. The truth says something.

So the essence of it is that you let Baba work through you you don't give that resistance and to what may happen in your karma, but let him work it out. I'll give you a tiny example that happened to me. I never asked Baba about my career or anything like that and I just let bomber handle I thought oh he knows. I need work. I need an income and in 1952 just before Baba became you know a week before I got it my first job in the toy business and in my first week or two I had to leave many days to be with Baba because he asked and this boss never said anything, you know, imagine the first job you go up and said, well, I want Monday and Tuesday off. He said fine you won't get paid and then over and over a week in Myrtle Beach you know of course by Baba's as Grace, but it just happened and I've been in the toy business ever since I didn't push it. Baba, well, I want to do this and I got to do that and it must do this and so it all happened, you know, and the same thing with coming out to California. I had no idea about it, but just suddenly it was happening because Baba wanted to happen and it's so like you let you wouldn't you don't quit working out your your talents and your abilities and what you must do is deal with life, but if it throws you a curveball then just relax, you know, Baba sets some other plan going and you never know. It's like Mani said only an avatar could keep so many secrets. He doesn't tell you what's ahead of you. Maybe just the next day some gruesome thing or some very happy thing. So you just have to be like Margaret said just - or we say go with the flow, but be a *** self.

I say go with the glow now (laughter) and that's what Baba says do your best and leave the rest to me. Now that doing your best is important that doesn't mean sitting on your duff and say Baba do it. No, you got to get out and make the news you know. Baba said if you take one step toward me I take 12 toward you and you who are in numerology you can figure that one.

It works. And this is I will read this one because this is very beautiful. Another secret from Baba I say with my Divine authority to each and all that whosoever takes my name at the time of breathing his last comes to me, so do not forget to remember me in your last moments. Unless you start remembering me from now on it will be very difficult to remember me when your end approaches. You should start practicing from now. Even if you take my name only once every day you will not forget to remember me in your dying moments.

And I'll never forget we went to the hospital to see Nadine and she did that just in our presence. She was in that accident with him - and those big tremendous blue eyes looking up. And she passed away, right. Well *** is here. Baba said many times that people who have done that, you know, *** sent. That wonderful story which someone will elaborate but there was this man who through faith in Baba had brought this young child back to life up to the north and Baba heard about it at the same time he heard about this young ah air pilot that had died in a crash. He was some relation of the Dadachanji's I think I'm not sure who died going down saying Baba's name and he said more or less I'm summarizing that that was his real lover. The one that died saying his name and the other it was unimportant, this miracle. It's I always remember to this day is our love for him and not on doing miracles, although everyone thinks that so tremendous to bring a child to life.

He said rather you should have died said to the sender a message to that man. Rather. You should have died.

And another little secret was my first talk but I heard about Baba was Narina norina Matchabellis' talk and it was called 'Love is the Solution' and I always remember that title. Of course, that was my first heard about Baba. But the word love is the solution. Well, I don't know how many of you suffered through high school chemistry, you know, but solution is, you know, something that dissolves everything and I don't know the names of all those stinky things but love is not stinky it but it does dissolve. I you know, you get to the point where you're everything crams up your own emotions your tensions or the problem out there the nasty boss and what are you going to do your stuck you've done everything you can and then you just relax to say love is the solution. Well, you can't go out and hug that nasty glass. No, but you can send love thoughts to him.

Or her or you know, I tried just just mentally sending out love which can be very difficult because you just have this long *** and that's where I think of this solution. You just got to let that lump go and that brings another thought that at the end of the day, it's like this blackboard here you got all these scribbles. You know having school you these horrible formulas up there at the end of class you just take an eraser and erase you know and the next day and that place is very psychologically healthy. You let it go whatever happened that day let it go that's sort of and with love if you can the solution and that kind of effect is taking the garbage out every day, you know. The next day you'll wake up feeling better because if you let it accumulate, you know, you have awful load of hostility and anger and then Baba will, you know, pull a trip wire and you'll get the full blast from your own accumulations and usually you blame others we won't get into the psychology but you usually blame others, but it's mostly your own accumulation. And so if you get it rid of it everyday you have less to deal with and you'll be freer to love because for lovers, you know, we all go asking love love love love Baba love Jai Baba you know love everyone but how to do it. That's say a *** question. Another *** .

When we met Baba in 56 he wasn't in good shape then. After the accident he'd recovered and was in very good physical shape and we went to meet him in the Del Monico hotel room. Baba called for some and there were people coming and going and I was there that moment where Baba was pacing the room, you know, he had like he was in a small room, you know pacing up and down and he said I'm like a caged lion. This is when actually gave us a little piece that you've heard. I am like a caged lion and you make a pet. I'm summarizing and you make a pet of me but wait till that cage is open.

Let the cage let the lion out of the cage. Well symbolically the caged lion is the lion of God, the Aslan, you know, your Narnia tail. Baba is that raging love of God and we keep it in a cage. We do keep it in the cage. Baba is nice. He's over here, but never mind my scrap with my neighbor and the backbiting and fight.

That you know Baba has over here. He's nice. He's in a cage. But you see you have to get get him out of the cage. Then he's going to devour you.

Devour your ego. So that's why you're afraid to let him out of the cage. And actually this can go on. We're only 12, 13 years, from Baba is dropping the body. What people are going to do, this is human nature, is build more bars and more bars on that cage and someday Baba will be just that nice picture up there in church and that nice hymn and a nice textbook. Know you have to let him out of the cage. Now how do you do that? But you have to realize the bars on the cage are your bar?

You have put all those bars. The little ego bars that you've made. Your little sanskaras. Big sanskaras. How many 84 lakhs of lives of sanskaras. That is a hell of a thing to get rid of. As Margaret said the ego is a seven headed monster and you cut off one head and it grows another.

So we have to remove these bars so and that's sort of as a part of the duty to everything we have to throw a bar into the doing it takes a little stick of sanskaras, but you can try to get Baba out of the cage by realizing that the cage is you and if cage but I'll never forget how wonderfully Baba, his energy, was just uncontainable and you just sit sit there. I remember we had hired an artist Marion Florsheim energy had hired this poor artist to drop off and he was ***ing. He was a you know, the kind of art where you do about 50 lines to get one line, you know that style. He couldn't do Baba. But we never saw the painting but it's the same thing. You can't contain Baba, but you can let him out of the cage. That's my secret. Well, another secret was I live on a street called Hillside and every day I have to walk up this hill and down the hill and with groceries and stuff and everything and I thought that one day this hill doesn't move at all. It doesn't change one inch but going up it is such a struggle but coming down is great. The hill hasn't changed at all. It's just my direction is going up the hill is hard work and going down and so easy and suddenly it struck me. Well, that's like if I have a problem if I'm going uphill it's a horrible problem. But if I look at it another way, it's great you slide right now and that's the way I try to think if I have something to deal with am I looking at it in the right direction? Am I traveling up the hill or down the hill and I'm making a molehill out of it. I'm doing a hill thing up instead of down and that's where I remembered Baba.

Saying like Jean Adriel thank me for the problems, thank me for the suffering or conflicts and all. So what is a conflict? Everything's a conflict. All these great Shakespearean dramas and Ramayana its all conflict. What is it for its it's for you to learn to grow through it and get rid of the ego that's creating the conflict you have to say if you're in conflict with someone it's two egos. Oneness can never create a conflict. So you get rid of half the problem instantly if you remove your ego. You see the conflict part and the way to do it is to look at it that way as an opportunity. I know it's a horrible cliche and I don't succeed at all as all of you know, very well and in the conflict but to look at it in the right direction, you're going to go down the hill and gravity will pull you down will seem so easy if you're doing it for Baba it seem so easy.

And I remembered the problems we had traveling with Baba. They seem like fun horrible problems seem like fun because you're going to think gee how am I going to solve this? You know, I have Baba with me. It's got this not his suddenly got to go because Baba is with and they usually did get solved and then Baba would be so pleased and happy and even if he calls you in with this other person which happened to me and you know if its having a conflict with. I love the way Baba works. It is the way to work with people I think. May each one say their piece didn't take sides. ***. Each one say your piece and now embrace, forget it.

And if you love me love me in that person love me and that he asked this one person that I was with you. Do you love me? Yes, Baba. She wouldn't look at me.

Love you Baba. Well, if you love me then love me in Filis. No, that was that was but you see *** trying to make the point that really you can't have a conflict with someone if you really realize that they're Baba.

I had a little I do have these little mystical experiences for whatever you call and early days with Norina and Elizabeth. We had all sorts of people and a lot of odd people and one was some baroness somebody or other and we were out in Winsted Connecticut on we had a retreat there for a while and guests were invited out and this woman had been invited. I don't know what the heck she done at all to upset Norina. But they *** her back to New York that is so the hook. Okay, but you came to me she said could I meditate with you a moment?

And I said sure. So I sat there in my little room there and suddenly her face totally vanished and there was Baba's face. It's so beautiful. And I thought it was like a tiny lesson for me. I don't you know, whatever she does. I'm sure you know, it was - and Norina had their reasons, but it taught me something that someone who's going to be the outcast and the baddie and the one nobody likes or the one on misbehaves. That's probably just the one that Baba you know that Baba is always there and we do get characters, you know through the years and it helped me.

I don't know where they've gone past 7 or not. But another little one I have pet name for Baba. That's a silly one maybe but I know that the mandali had pet names that Baba had pet names for you. And it's like bringing Baba closer it as sort of someone again in your family or like a sweetheart and we hit through the years. We had little names for Baba. Baba lee, that's sort of German *** Baba lee and then Baba had little pet names for you and also little gestures for you and some of them were really, you know, Baba was the perfect mimic.

Like Fred Frey he had a ticket there. So Baba would call for Fred and Fred and John Bass and FILADELE FILADELE we're like this that was Baba's name for and that meant that we were so I guess twins or something in another life. Who knows and then if I was there and Adele wasn't. Were you Adele? It was for her or she had to run for me. That's the worst thing, you know to run for somebody else that wasn't there or and the only going to miss Baba you had to go get this person. It was later, you know, right? Why can't they be here? Why do I have to miss? The go after them. Baba was very particular about your being there. I'm skipping to another subject. But for the next one Baba comes again remember this - the next 700 years.

Don't leave. Don't leave Baba's presence without you know, it's like I suppose in royalty. I don't know the English have it all straight now, but you don't leave the Royal presence without permission and it's sort of like that. You don't run off somewhere or disappear or have your own little thing and some very interesting lessons are given especially on this 56 trip that people who got very excited about doing some spiritual service quote-unquote for Baba would run off and do something and then Baba says where's so and so why aren't they here. Some good stories about that and the Bible says you won't see me for 700 years, you know, if you were late or you ran off to have a snack or you want it to whatever and sometimes just thought you were doing something for Baba. I know at that dinner in the movie you saw last night.

It was a lovely dinner at ***long shots***, but it was in the same building where the Winderfelt and Ella thought Baba looked cold. I don't know why she thought he was shivering and she went to her apartment to get him a jacket. And that was just the moment when Baba got up as he saw to go around and touch and greet the people there and there was this empty seat by Fred Winterfell and Baba said where's Ella?

And so when she came back and offered the sweater to Baba I didn't know at the time what had happened but Bab a overlooked here quite you know, where were you and it said she missed and she had the same thing happen to her in Myrtle Beach is like I wanted really to give you this little lesson because for all of us because we all did these things.

Baba had said then I want you to Winterfell to Ella's that she I want you to be with me in the barn and the morning which began at 9. Well Kitty had asked her to cook some special dessert for her for Baba and she thought Chris that was wonderful and she went and helped Kitty in the kitchen and she wasn't there in the barn and then Baba came out of the barn. I happen to be standing right there and Baba a called for her and said, where were you I told you I wanted you there in the morning.

And it was a you know, quite a scene.

But it's not it's symbolic and you have to see it on that level that you're always with Baba. You don't get caught up even in the ideas of that we are trained and we must you know, selfless service can also get in the way of actually being with Baba. It's like the old story of Mary and Martha, you know, he run off to the kitchen or something and it even happened to Kitty on this tip of 56.

Baba always had sort of a retiring time, you know.

But we had gone to Meher Mount had a lovely day up there with Baba which is another whole story. And on the way back. I think I don't know whether it was the dancers or someone had asked Kitty out for a meal. Now, you know Kitty always prepared Baba's food. She was cooking Baba's spinach a little sterno can in her bedroom in the Hollywood Hotel - is so cute. But she thought well Baba is taken care of he's going back with Agnes is driving him back and somehow she thought it would be okay. And she said yes to this group that invited her for dinner. When she came back to the hotel Baba had had no food. There was no open Kitchen in the hotel and it was a big scene, you know, and even someone who'd been with Baba so many years. Just forgot that one little thing. Always being there with Baba and it's kind of got rubbed into me too I miss I give thesame time in the Hollywood Hotel.

I had had this lesson, you know don't leave but then Baba retired. We greeted him *** in the elevators. He went up to his room about 5:30 after the day-long meeting with people and I thought well now it's okay, you know, we won't see Baba again and I had told my mother come up there to meet Baba. I won't speak to you I won't talk to you or do anything. You know, we're with Baba and she said I understand. I understand. So then I thought well Baba is gone.

To rest to retire and now I can talk to my mother whom I hadn't seen for a couple of years. So we met we went out for fire. And when I came back Billy and grabbed me said I were you but were you Baba called for you. I thought *** the worst moment that Baba called for you and you weren't there. And I cried all night, you know, and then I got up early and went to the hotel. We always hung around outside Baba's bedroom and you know to get his morning hug. As I said before to get that morning hug from Baba. It's a good way to begin the day and the door opened and there was Baba on the couch. He looks so beautiful and he said where is this girl who had been keeping me awake all night. And then I got this hug. But I think it is Baba said it up. There was no way I could have imagined that after he'd gone, you know, but it taught me too that you can't even you know relax for a minute you know. But the reason Baba does it though is to stir up more love. I think all of you brave it when you *** and you can't fail because Baba will you know, he sets up all these little trip wires. You're just gonna do it no matter how smart you are because you feel you failed Baba and you get all emotional, and then you want to do more you want to be better. You want to please Baba always please Baba.

I don't know. I think I've run out of seven.

I think the last is to have a sense of humor, you know.

It's one of the first days with Baba and I wasn't you know its all new to me Baba looked we proceeded with Baba in the woman's house guest house at Myrtle Beach and Baba would come out with these little random things.

And he said the whole creation is a joke.

Said it's a might sometimes a very sad joke, but it's a joke. And I never forget how Baba looked, his face. before the accident. I was *** so beautiful and sometimes a very sad joke, but a joke then immediately he started to smiling.

You know, it's like the two sides of Maya and then he asked us to tell jokes. That's where Anita was great. I remember the joke told to me one time. I don't know it was this particular moment one of those days that Baba had gotten kind of serious and then he said to goes like this to need I'm immediately said, oh, well Delia Delia before she came on this trip was 52 she went out and he bought it a pair of panties red lace panties to wear here. Baba loved it. I thought wonderful Anita could kill that was so ***. This is baloney the women with it, but it was she had such a gift for that and I admired it so much that you could come up with a little thing that would amuse but we always had to keep the jokes ***, you know little line there you know.

I think this is very clever. She had the Reader's Digest and name it ***, you know, they were about the right speed and then Dr. Kenmore was awfully good at. He'd come up with these great Jewish jokes, you know. Some of them are little shady, you know. One time we were in the barn and he told this joke about the elephant and the little car that goes under the parade is the there's a parade and this little cut open car goes under the elephant, you know, and the other man says to the driver well gee I didn't know it was raining and the Elephant joke. Okay. And so this two people up in the last row in the barn that kind of joke, you tell Baba and Baba said to Harry tell a joke again, those two people didn't get it. And there's a part was awfully good at amusing Baba. He had that light touch to I don't remember any special thing. But I love Baba sense of humor and baba says, you know, how could he you know, how could God not have a sense of humor?

...too heavy right. (audience chatter).

Was stuck in a sticky that's that's that's it. He knew we were, you know getting too heavy. Yeah too serious and I agree with a need I love that side and you took at side of Baba. Well a spiritual path. Isn't that the other side of it? It's fun. And that's the Christian side. That's the Christians side. I remembered in 52 Kitty came out one day because this is a week before Baba left for trip and the accident everything and she said we haven't seen Baba like this for years with that Christrmas, you know, the the intimacy the laughing and the sweetness and all with the gopis if you haven't read about Krishna and the gopis that was a time when the god-man played the role of the young happy shepherd and his Gopi shepherdesses dancing and enjoying and you know the light lovely side of God. In all the incarnations with Baba, there's always the humor somewhere. I'm sure that we haven't heard the real story about Jesus and his numerous kinds of churches. But I know it. And we had a speaker at our Center a Carl Ernst who's here who's a specialist in Muslim history and gave a talk on Muhammad. Some of the intimate things that even haven't been translated. I believe earlier brought forward how Muhammad was and what a wonderful sense of humor he had and just I can't tell a story is offhand that he told us but it sounded so much like Baba so much by Baba.

The attractiveness of Baba was that lighten and when he would, you know when we were so young go like this and we were all standing around him at the airport and 56 this three weeks with Baba was it without it three hanky trips, but you know, it was pretty intense and we got to the airport. We just we're sobbing and crying and standing in a circle around him and Baba went around like this pinching it -cheek you know, smile and like you did the *** beautiful yesterday when and or when one of us looked to solemn Ivy always look kind of solemn she does have trouble with her eyes yet tear ducts that always went but sometimes she also was kind of solemn all of because what's the matter Ivy. It's just like anybody who got a little serious.

You know and in fact of most of the time actually spent with Baba or not discourses of its kind of relaxing things music is spent in 62, we heard a great deal of music and entertaining things.

And it was it was really a flow because then your heart opens a little bit humor does break up this nasty old ego and its cage. I think I've run out of Secrets. How about you telling me some some? Questions? Maybe anybody has a question?

Don't look at this shirt. I'll tell you the story of this shirt. I was invited to go to Australia by Bill LePage and I don't know what he had or hadn't told them there. But when we got there Ursula Van Buskirk travelsx with me and David Miyake the wonderful singer. They heard a rumor that before I came they didn't hear much about who I was and the room had gotten around that I was a psychic and that that tickle her *** and I was telling the story to Leslie Tejada that the rumor had gotten to Australia that I was a psychic and I said, yeah, I'm just another common California psychic. I just that's great. I'll send you a shirt. So that's my shirt. And the California Psychics to predict a lot of gastly things.

Meher Mount and Fred Winderfeld kind of humorously said what is with California? Especially Los Angeles all these crazy groups and you know girls and everything and this kind of making a joke, you know, a New Yorker always puts down Los Angeles. So obviously film he said Southern California is a place where the veil, next to India, it's the place on the planet where the veil is thinnest between the gross and subtle.

So that accounts for (exactly) well, I think that's enough controversy. Jai Baba. What? (audience chatter)

You talk about sports and things like Jack Small. Sports? Small talk of the Avatar is very good at small talk. I remember Norina talking about how the first visit of Baba to Paris it was it Consuelo at ***'s house and her mother was a very social person very, you know, real social whatever French social and so Baba he said just sat there and made just perfect small talk, you know, and she said it was so perfect like the Avatar can do everything perfectly. It could also have tea with you and do all the little social chitchat.

I just love that picture Baba, you know just tuning in to the person but Baba is social chat was really interesting in the morning he said did you sleep well did your bowels move? That's being real honest. Are you healthy? Are you enjoying your food and everything but the thing about the dream was very funny, but that that first week I was with Baba I didn't sleep at all. I was having all these weird dreams experience and that was so funny about my say did you sleep well his eyes twinkled and and then he said did you dream I said, yes Baba had dreams and later in the day every day He asked me what I had dreamt the night before and then he - I had to tell him the dream that was like a psychoanalysis and explain the dream and that was really fascinating for me because he knew that I was very interested in dreams and psychology of dreams Jungian interpretation and all and so I had to tell my dreams to Baba and he interpreted them and every day I had some new experience, but I'll tell you the one probably heard my story's a million times. But this dream I dreamt of an incredible tortoise great big tortoise, and I looked at had Baba his eyes and then there was an incredible serpent.

Again, it had Baba's eyes. And then this elephant was incredible. I remembered right now. I could see the size. Just loving twinkling eyes in the ***. It was Baba and then there was this huge tree that I couldn't see the end of and I put my hand on the bark and the minute I did I felt Baba's energy and it was Baba so I'm telling this dream to Baba the next day and Baba said now you see Me in everything You will be afraid of nothing.

And of course those figures are very symbolic. If you studied history of art the 10 incarnations of Vishnu that are reproduced in Indian art are the you know incarnations of Vishnu, which is the second part of the Hindu Trinity Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva. Vishnu is the this the Creator Brahma. Vishnu the preserver or Parvardigar another word and Shiva the Destroyer. Vishnu, of the Trinity of God is the one an incarnates as Avatar. So Avatars is in Vishnu symbolically represented Indian art and these animal forms are there the ten incarnations and one is a turtle and one is the serpent, you know, the Kundalini serpent. The turtle on which the whole creation rests and the Elephant, of course wisdom. They have Ganapati the elephant head that whole story is very interesting it tells the some mythology-- it explains in the new book the I always get the Nothing in the Everything in the Everything the Nothing which is Nothing in the Everything. Interesting how Baba explained some of these elements and then the tree is the tree of life. It's got a special name in Hindi, which I don't remember this one the whole tree of creation, you know, and the Kabbala the symbol of the tree of life. So these major symbols of Baba's energy in creation.

Were in the dream so for you of interested in symbology and see Baba is the energy in the universe and it has Baba's eyes. Baba's great mimic. He told us the story of Mansari and the snake story and I've just doing that he goes the snakes eyes. Look at Mansari you know the whole number. So we love Baba telling stories. It's just you could see a little bit of that in Mani how she is just a natural born storyteller and would have made a great actress I think.

I'm babbling on. Stop me. Give me a question. (Audience chatter).

The Mansari story is really if you met Mansari she's just petite. I don't think she's five feet high and very yeah and Baba during the New Life left the whole ashram in her care on Meherabad hill. I hope I'm getting - Jacko stop me from not getting this dream and she was told not to cross the railroad tracks, which she still doesn't accept to go to the doctor or something.

So see this little frail lady is the caretaker of this huge property while Baba's gone. She said Baba, what do I do? Especially about snakes? He said here's my cane, he gave her his cane and keep this on your bed. You see so one night she wakes up and there's a huge cobra on her chest and Baba that's when Baba gives you the eyes and so she picks up the stick because she was totally obedient to the Baba picks up this stick and saying Baba's name and very frightened pushes the snake off. But you see if she hadn't been totally obedient always had that stick by her bed. The good lesson total obedience about even something you don't understand it. But when she tells a story, it's great, but when Baba did those snake eyes that was great. Anyway, Jai Baba.a