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It's true that Baba has fantastic ways of changing your life and very rapid order sure. I could share that with all of you. It's interesting because Baba is says in different places. I don't change your karma, but he certainly does something about speeding up the movie, you know, 22 frames a second to devil a torso.
And I feel sometimes that I've lived more than one life in this I'm only 64 but it seems like she you know, how many different levels of experiences and a curious thing that happens when you get into his 60s is, you know time to spiral and you somehow you're like that but you come back to a place where you were before and I found especially on this trip that I just came back from to India.
It bothers about their like I'd come back to some place way back where I was in my team, but at a different level I had it was like Baba threw me back into a kind of searching and humility and know nothing is you know of the teens as like I'm starting off on a new new adventure.
And I thought that was very interesting psychologically how Baba it does that he kind of?
Makes you re go through certain experiences, but at a different level like self-questioning and who am I and where am I going and you know, like a new cycle starting and it's a very interesting thing. I think that's one reason except for the few Mandalay that it kept with him. And even then those two were pushed away and brought back.
When Baba was alive you'd see him and then he just say goodbye and off you go in Maya again, and then you'd come back and see him again. Yeah at each time. It was like a cycle you live through another Perils of Pauline, you know section 2 and come back and
So that each time I met Baba it was a very different experience. And even now in Baba is no longer in the body. It also is a different experience. That was my fourth trip to India. And the first trip was in 1962 Baba had promised for many years to have a in India and in fact in 1956 right here in San Francisco. He
He told us that he was going to have a big East West Gathering and he point and say you must come and you must come and you must have so we called ourselves a must which is you know from reading the Wayfarers. It's a word for Mad people spiritually mad people an interesting thing about that though is he'd point to one or two and say now you must try to come and you must do your best to come and those people did not make it or else they had a very difficult time. That was like
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Anyway in 62 was the first time I saw Baba a so to speak in his own setting like a jewel in its own particular setting in the East with all Eastern are 10,000 Western easterners and 300 westerners about and that was a fabulous experience. It was like being back in some Bible seeing too because of the whole atmosphere India seems to be 2000.
Hold it doesn't seem to be modern and there was Baba on the platform and giving darshan giving in was hour after hour. Darshan to everyone everyone passed by him the men and then the women and then the men separate lines and the westerners. We were lucky we were seated up front and got a very close you of it, but even so Baba and then was a little more remote than he'd been with us in.
The West when they were just a few of his traveling with him or being with him staying with him like at the most maybe a hundred or hundred fifty and where we had private interviews private days with Baba at all that and he told us in the west here. He said the day will come when you won't have this closeness with so those who could make it went that was in.
In the spring of 69 with the few months still not quite sure of what was going to happen. We weren't quite sure but the said about what I said about the Buddha if the disciple Grieves for the master when he's gone, then he wasn't really a master and you're not really a disciple because you don't understand the whole thing. But the emotion was like a wave that came together, you know, and the ocean and two flows of water come together. It made one big
Rest of love. It was just a fantastic experience. You really in a sense did not miss Baba as physical presence because they love was so intense. It was a very special thing. How many here went to that $69
Yeah, quite a few and for example, it was a group for Assad to like a 62 dharshan. Ella winter felled and Fred stayed on after its for various reasons after everybody had left the last group and they said it was like suddenly there was nothing there. In other words. It was just filled with the love that special darker and afterwards it was just emptied out.
Ge Force and of course the building now doesn't exist only a little Shrine their part of Baba is room and then in 76 I went I was going to go I had been to Indian 62 of this massive crowds and 69 with a whole group of 300 people.
But others and this time I thought well, I'll just go with a few people and so I did but Baba had other plans the very last day. I broke my foot and in his museum at was kind of interesting three or four of the boys there had taken Baba as most holy Relic his coat Kamali coat out of its box to shake it out. Just very, you know, they don't do it at all often.
And just at that moment, I fell and they were so absorbed in the coat, you know, they didn't look and they brought it over to me about his coat and then I said, oh, well, I can't get up but seven tickets slide and here am I was a broken foot and hanging on the Baba scope and I always felt that I had to suffer, you know, just to touch that coat it was so, you know, it was and I have to stay in India three more weeks and experience a murky.
He and there were 6,000 people there in 1976. Our TT. The Baba had other ideas about me and crafts and that was a wonderful experience to that was in mayor of odd and there is that and not only did you have the chance to be with him on Glee to get to know them you have little an hour with money or a nap.
The model A unless by chance you had some work with him. I said no, you didn't really get to know them. They were so selfish phase of and so busy on Baba is work and orders and things that you really didn't see them in a way as as a friend or close person even have the chance to actually most of the time but in this later time and even in the Last Action to they were very busy with all the crowds and
So it was it's a real privilege to get to know them so much closer.
And that very wonderful moment which will come soon again a mighty, you know, they keep silent from 12 noon January 31st, the devolver dropped by Bill 12:15 and 6,000 people absolutely still concentrated on bother. I mean, you don't see any blinding lights or but if you don't feel bad, but they are and so intense it's really thinking that here you are.
The Quaker Hall is silent. So I don't know if you ever been here real quick. I'm eating that they just sit in silence.
And that's how they got the name of Quakers. They repudiated all potpourri and Catholicism and everything in their time and they just had a plane place no ministers, nothing everyone sits quietly and then if somebody feels inspired they'll get up and speak and sometimes they didn't speak. They just quiver with the list of God's presence. That's what the Quakers that I got the quake neckbreaker.
And and something is that you know is a very real thing you feel the divine presence in the silence.
So that was a third trip and then this trip.
I want very much wanted to go because I felt the world was, you know, kind of crashing around and might not be able to go very much longer travel and also the monetary I getting older and it can't be too much longer before they left. They really won't be with us and
Especially wanted to see mayor again and money and a few that I feel very close to ADI and so on a Lottie has traveled here, but the women don't travel and so this was a very special time Baba blessing made it easy. I have a survival course, but physically it's kind of exhausting but it was again a very intimate occasion I was
I've wondered what was different because each one has been different. I've been different and this time I'll go Baba the physical Baba is it is he is receding and that sense through history. But his presence get stronger through a strange thing and his presence is stronger as the physical existence because back in history. It's already 11 years since he dropped fun.
And when you put your head on Barbara's in that tomb there and I never was one for this tomb stuff, you know, as I said in life you the empty tomb and I thought the second visit of I didn't like it either Baba. It just dropped the body and we just made it part of perfunctory, correct, but the third time was really very affecting that the a material and this time it was a very intimate for me communion that moment I walked in here.
And put my head on by this Stone and I don't know how I'm still puzzling how to feel the effect of it as I say, it was like throwing myself back and yet forward, you know, there's something about I'm not a mechanic but gear shifts, you know you go this way to go that way, you know, it's like you have to be recycled and then go forward push back to go forward and I think that I needed that kind of
Of
You know pushing it down a little bit your ego grows when you don't know. It's like a mushroom. It's just saying that way and you don't know it, you know know your friends don't taste so you have to have some of these Shear at all and and the quickest way is to visit a Baba's tent and but if it's the same way with meeting Baba people say what had happened with the what?
Did you do what did he do for you? You know we get all these questions and you look back and you tell what you did with Baba and it seemed just like a pleasant time with somebody he would just be our companion. He'd give little discourses now and then but and he'd always relate to and ask you about your life and this and that and either in a group or privately and it wasn't anything big big dramatic spiritual things or confrontations or anything. It was just
Very warm
In a sense divinely human companionship with Ava but all that time you're with him. He is working on you and you don't know how it's like a if you went to surgery. It's like this lady who's sick if she went there on Monday and just lay in bed and the music played you got a nice soda and this that was the operation. That's why it was his Baba. He's doing something he's chipping off.
That was karmic things that need to be done and only years later you kind of realize he's done a lot of things to you worked on your karma and picks it up and redirected and so far self-consciously. You can't say yes Baba did this. Yes Baba this afternoon. Sometimes you may have asked directly for advice or something those people they have gotten some direct things. But Ashley the best of Baba was just that loving companionship that
Stereos operation on your ego that you don't know what happened, but you get the effect in your life and not only this life this life is just a drop. It's like one Pearl on a string. You have no idea how many lives of people and how many are in the future and they say even a perfect Master involved with me on that is the Africa one moment.
In the presence of a perfect 1 is equal to a hundred lives of spiritual efforts on your own a hundred lives.
It seems incredible. But if you feel that with Baba and some kind of rambling on but that was that was the fourth is its Baba?
And we had many wonderful moments with them on we as you probably know most of you how they arrange it now in mindfully Hall are attached and money together or separately or sort of like a little team tell their stories their Baba reminiscences and so forth and
Answer questions and so on and of course, they're just very very all those years. He was Baba is interpreter just like a pane of glass are at tries dude hardly recognized, you know that he was there is only kind of Baba is void Bible with gesture and Eric dude here erika's voice, but you wouldn't even relate to fact that it's not Baba as voice is very peculiar now he is
Speaking and
Telling his stories about Baba and he tells a story at least when we were there about how Ababa asked him to come with him in 1952. And he said no Baba. I'm exhausted. I'm Ill. I just can't even stand up. I don't want to go and buy but kept asking him.
And
Obviously it all right pack up leave so he goes to his room and he looks around and says what if I got to pack up everything I have was a gift from Baba is closed. We said can I walk out? Nathan said I don't know what to do, and he really was upset about the whole thing. The Bible says a little mess and you don't have to leave tonight. Thank you for that tomorrow. So tomorrow Baba.
Cause in the end, it's you going. It's just Baba it I have to walk out of here naked everything is given me I have nothing in my own. So I need a bit kind of made up and then Baba is it. All right, you could stay but while I'm gone in America, you have to go out and talk about me. You have to go from Village to Village and give speeches now. This is a man who had never done anything, but just interpret Baba, you know.
I thought I can't make speeches. I don't know anything and I suggest that you have to do. So while Baba was with us 52 in America are twin around for the first time in his life. He had to talk about Baba but it was like that was the key and his whole life now and he's the main speaker. I'm Baba except for RT now and caring a tremendous burden. They're all these years and they have made.
Maris are there have baba does things dramatically to you know, and
Yeah, that's a little story about Eric. And you also have a great privilege to be with Mira. I don't know how many of you here don't know about Baba but as Avatar and as all perfectness is due to they have their feminine counterpart their balance their shadow in Maya and this is Mira Baba said, she's the purest soul in the universe.
And yet she's the harmless fun. She'll just sit there on the porch and talk to you as if well, we must try more to think about. You know, we were all here when I mean she doesn't feel really it's not a put-on at all. It's just one of you oh, it just one lover Baba like the rest as just incredible her humility and her total absorption bother. There's no one else really.
No trace of ego left there really just a few little, you know, she knows her place in a sense. I when somebody was rude and was talking he gives him a little glance. You don't know but I mean that's just perfect politeness, but there's just no
No barrier it in her love for Baba and it's a wonderful example. I mean, I was willing to go through any kind of a mess of a trip to see mayor wants to force being a woman as I mean, it's like a wonderful.
Ideal and I know but he's going to be mayor of but I mean just watching her even now surmounting. What was the most incredible grief to be left behind by Barbara and to come out of it and to learn to turn around Focus outward because if you know the story of marriage she was kept in seclusion very much. So just totally focused on Baba the many many years long story about her.
And now to face what really is everyday a crowd of strangers in a way and to share her love with them and to reminisce and now she's she's even yeah, I saw him as a little just a little list of stories a little note that your cake so that she won't repeat herself. I mean, it's just just touching her she does this to share and it's like a rose that was
Just a beautiful Rosebud and now it's blooming out when and wherever there's an element of sadness there with all of them. I felt that you know, their strength is giving out is putting out every day. I think is all through the year.
The share with us a tremendous thing. I know what it can be to do that and do it constantly it just, you know kind of wearing down a little bit and that's kind of it was a note of sadness.
I'm just sharing my trip and I was thinking is an example of the monolith the men and the women are such they could have Baba is so wonderful as a master or whatever you want to call of handling people because he hasn't crushed their individuality.
You never did. Although they had to obey him hundred percent and I was very strict but it never crushed their individuality. You can see each one is a real person. They're not in any way crushed as people as individuals on the country there. He's brought out the essence of each one. I know if you've been there, you know how different each one is is pain dude body that however this prophecies and excitement to that and then there's The Quiet One
Audrey in the background who may come on real strong who did this? Certainly I mean it just wonderfully real people but totally dedicated to God and it's a lesson because individuality is a very difficult thing to achieve in the universe and it's very difficult to work with people even if any of you parents, you know, too
To help a person toward a discipline self with life without crushing that individual will and that individuality that mentality the intellect. They are balance between the heart and the intellect Baba is said illumination comes when the mind in the heart of her family down and you can see with each of them. They are not
Dumb people and then they have really each one has a tremendous capacity which they hide completely family. Like I remember there in 76 at an RTD and I found out that the whole thing for 6,000 people and you try this in India for three days their food their lodging and every all the sanitation all of this you have to would go through for in yet to have 6,000 people as your guests.
Who arranged it all pain do pendo sitting in an armchair. There was a newspaper. He's had a stroke. He doesn't talk. Well just smiling Under the Clock, you know, it seems to be doing absolutely nothing and he's arranged the whole thing. You know, you tried to arrange your dinner tomorrow night. Thank you for ranging one for 6,000 people and just sitting in your chair and I said can do how do you do it?
Well, it's he has the intelligence and to do that and the same with badri and all of them like this trip. I got to know bow a little bit probably the quietest one you've know when to this unobtrusive so you don't meet him sometimes if you don't seek him out and I sat down with him. He showed me this huge giant Bland forth the development of the trust they have
These things plan. They must satisfy the government that they're doing these charitable things. There's going to be a hospital and it's sewing school and and there's a lot I Bray and its plan for it just is an incredible big project and who is doing the whole thing bow and you find out he has a law degree is a liar a lawyer what right into that bank.
And he has a science degree. He's a tremendous we educate net which all prepared in for this fantastic director's job of a arranging is tremendous project and with all its aspects the building and everything and he's just quietly sitting there and he tells you these wonderful stories about his first days with five, I'll just it's a long story. It's exciting but just one aspect.
He was just a student and he just passed it hadn't passed the barber. He'd taken the BART abhava. He always wanted to be with visors come to the ashram. And there he comes in his first job. Bababy gives him to take care of this must from North India and a little room with the cot at this must if any of you here don't know what I must is they certify a god intoxicated person who acts like a mad man must Miss man and this man
Man sits on the cot is totally incontinent you to go to the bathroom right there and he eats right there and he's just as just a terrible must, you know about fish have to keep him absolutely clean and wait on him hand and foot so he struggled for this and of course Baba would come in and just at that moment. The must have dirty there is about you haven't kept him Queen, you know, it was just terrible Johnny help. What am I doing here? Take care of this dirty filthy for a Babacat.
I think he is mad don't think he did but he did you know, he said what is this guy mumbles and jumbles and he doesn't say anything sensible and he suffered piggish in 35 states on the 6th plane. I don't believe it and one morning he says
You'll get a letter today you passed the boss looks at this method, but they know if he gets the letter that day that he passed the far as a by becomes is and it tells you he's not mad and that was his first lesson and selfless service to take care of that it goes on. He's got some wonderful food.
But it's just a privilege to know these people and
To see their balance about because I think the art of human life is to be in Balance not to be on a plane and have beautiful experiences not to be just you know, somebody worldly wise and it just has to be total balance and also very important to me was that what Baba says he's kept his disciples under a veil now God knows where these disciples are. They could be anywhere. I didn't hear the plane.
Oran Berry in the last gasp of the last life before realization, but there's a balance there so normal, there's a human they sit around and joke and they you can be relating to them. They don't we'll die for Powers. They don't zap to and seventh chakra or whatever. Don't read your past life and they're just normal beautiful people and that's what I call sainthood. I came back from this trip thinking that's it folks.
Anyway, I'm sharing it with her.
And I urge all I said to go. Oh, it's getting horribly expensive but it's worth it some things in life are worth it.
Anyway, I already had a little message. This is his morning message and he begins his meetings with may have heard this.
Come on.
Call yourself a lover of Avatar mayor, baba, but you must be willing For Your Love of bother to suffer laborers and sorrows and vexations and anxiety and lack of necessity sickness injuries reproof disgrace humiliation shame correction and contempt.
Jai Baba will then be ever yours bodies prescription and don't think that he hasn't gone through every one of them. I mean he has a lot of serious. Yeah.
And are they all have you know 50 years ago, but at that really amusing and
Audience a wonderful wonderful person. Here's something I'm just you know, I didn't know really what to share with you. But this is something I have stuff on my wall for a long time ever since I got it.
Wilson Baba, you must stick as close as you can to me or you may find yourselves falling off like rain drops on an open umbrella.
That is twirled around those that are farthest away are shaking off those that are really close in love not distant are unmoved you all love me greatly for you stick on. I love you more for I hold you to me.
For Sunbrella symbolic is very good for tonight. But when Baba is sensitive and he would do that because she was a years he would always keep us keyed up and send messages. It's next six months ago. We really tough and so stick onto me.
And I'm sure he's kind of sending that message when you go to India and I felt too and I walked in the to my you know, I'm not psychic but I felt your at the pinpoint of the grinding point of the whole universe and you kind of get a flash of of that moment in history that you're there and actually it was a moment that very moment was when at the Kaaba these
Different Muslim sects were attacking the Carver fighting over at blaming the Americans. And in fact in India, there was there were Muslims attacking Americans and they bring down a library and Pakistan all that stuff and I thought how ironic here I am Baba's Baba was Mohammed and at the real Muhammad's tune their fighting these religious sects and fighting each other over this tomb completely violating the spirit of Muhammad and I
The second is that going to happen do we have to humanity and it signals have to live through these and again, I think they still do and but in a new cycle, but at that moment the tomb was peaceful those birds singing up doors and I was alone in the Tomb with Baba and there were flowers on it and there's peace and yet Baba as Jesus said I come not with peace but with a sword and It's Tricky.
You and I felt that we are at a very critical moment in history. It certainly is it's going on and on with yet, you know, really developed but you all have tough times and I think you know Baba were alive. He probably sent another message, you know, the next six months the next three years are going to and
There many ways.
That we have to face ourselves sometimes an outward situations like we were leaving even to the point of War disaster unit or inward thing when the Avatar comes he's definitely creates always.
Excitements like the Chinese day. May you live in interesting times? That's where we are from.
And here is a little thing I found in Old of these of on me. They hadn't ever seen this before it begins a little bit esoteric afraid. So and they bore you in the beginning but it has a very interesting. It was a discourse Nia's and not these are Sufi words that Baba explained here. It was given on the famous and rich or nine.
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At about 8 p.m. Baba toe around you that he had a mind to say something about Nas and the Egg and ask for kishen Singh. It was not present but was doing some work where the mom who we were Baba then said that whenever he gets the urge to say something important things go wrong. The mic doesn't work disturbances take place persons concerned or not present so forth. However at about 8:15 kishen Singh join the modeling at Baba's
Listen papa gave the following this course Nas and yeah.
Now I want to explain about knobs and we are the sufis always press this point. The term has become so common nowadays that every Muslim poet big or small has started using it Nas literally means Never Satisfied and it is considered one of the dominant habits of the Beloved God sufis refer to God and to perfect Masters or sadguru's as the perfect personification of Nas.
As always being full of not why because God is absolutely independent and indifferent now you may think that for God who is the source of everything and for sad grooves who are God percent of personified to be indifferent sounds absurd.
The Oz means to dance to every Tomb of the Beloved. This does not mean obedience or surrender to carry out.
Batoon of God or sad grooves is a great thing that is to dance to every tune of the Beloved was absolutely independent and indifferent the Beloved is indifferent and so is the sadguru god the Beloved is independent and indifferent and a lover of God is dependent on every independent move of the Beloved.
This sounds almost absurd the sadguru is independent and his lover is totally dependent not on this ad group, but on every independent move of the sad thing now, the second aspect is most wonderful. We just spoke of God and the sad grows independent nature that nature is of the infinite reality, but the sad Guru has taken a form of Illusion.
God with his full Independence and infinity behind him takes on the cloak of Illusion. Now, what happens is as soon as the Garb of Illusion is worn by the sadhguru all the suffering of the whole universe due to the ignorance, which is the basis of Illusion is taken on by him.
I will explain why this is why this is paradoxical that the said Brewer Avatar who is infinite list is said to be simultaneously infinitely suffering when I say doctor Deshmukh. No one else in the universe suffers like me at once. He smiles and says Baba, how can you who are the source of bliss ever suffer. Now the sad grew has taken on this cloak why to
Others who also have their Garb of Illusion become infinite like him. He sees the suffering of others and hears them say save us save us save us from that suffering. He sees all this with a cloak of Illusion is taken on himself, but with eternal infinite Bliss as the background he experiences all that suffering is nothing.
It is just ignorant. So he does not pay attention to this illusory suffering. He now wants them to suffer really and with this real suffering. He wants them to burn up their illusory suffer.
But how to do it how to create an m in them the real suffering it is then that he threw his cloak of Illusion suffers most he wants to burn their false life. So he takes on himself the burning of his own cloak of Illusion, which he wears for the sake of others. It becomes like a candle and as soon as the candle starts burning malls gather around
Now the candle goes on burning and burning and makes thousands of moths burn also, so he suffers for others and makes them suffer for him.
Thus by wearing the cloak of Illusion the god-man plays the Dual role of suffering and making others suffer.
That that it's very subtle there. Maybe maybe needs to hold this part. But God takes on the body and that body suffers. And of course Baba says the suffering is not only physical but mental the suffering of the Avatar. He feels the suffering of everyone the whole creation.
You can imagine you've suffered yourself one mind.
Imagine Baba experiencing the suffering of all creation all of mine the not only minds on this planet. I mean Bababy said there are 16,000 other places where 18,000 places where human life exists think of that tremendous suffering.
But he takes on that suffering.
It burns your suffering up and that's true, especially when you're close to them Anjali and I've seen them suffer with Baba. It's like their suffering is his suffering. It's just give you a tiny example again going back to visiting India and you know mayor will be telling a story. She'll feel real happy. She'll remember accepting of that. Baba is beauty or is boys
And then her voice will send them 200 but suffered so much for everyone for all of us and the tears of that, you know going down at taken in her Joy. She always remembers Baba Stephen and and they're suffering with Baba or for him in his second there illusory nature gets burned up and the same for all but that's the mysticism of following.
An avatar is even different from falling aside Guru who may use other ways of getting rid of your illusory.
Body, or it was really wants and deserves all of those. I don't know how many of you ever studied Christian mysticism but it's like the suffering of Christ is the key thing and you're experiencing you're suffering and his Stephen Burns up that illusionary cloak as not only the body of Christ, but the clothes of desires and scares that keep you from God.
So that's that's the real path that it has its joy and it has its suffering and if you like only the joy tough, you know, you get tossed off there bro real fast, and that's why why are we such a small group here people don't like the stuff. They want to run two grooves. It's say oh I'll heal you I'll take away. I'll straighten you out. I'll help you to be assertive and not aggressive.
Whatever the latest latest Fletcher. Pardon me. I mean, it's like all these great it won't get you to God and so you're in a hard school and I don't even you know try anymore. I read to course. Everybody does try to bring people to Baba but I don't urge them in a way because they you're asking them to start. I'm really tough road. It is a tough love and
Yeah, is everybody ready to climb Mount Everest snow? I mean, it's more fun to run jog around the hills of Berkeley. I don't know why I got on this particular subject, but this article bit thing and I did feel actually over there that the world is due for another big cyclic dose It suffers all the time Baba pointed that out. I'm at this price on War.
War is only like, you know the bleeding bursting out that of the sword that was always there the selfishness of man and you know, every reporter that ever came to Baba and Steve. Why is there 7 when Baba has consented to have the TV cameraman that was in the 56th? And I don't know whether any of you have seen that film in Myrtle Beach is the only place you can see it. They show it there and I vs Baba question.
Otherwise, they're Stephen and he says the same thing he says here in this more complicated identical that suffering is there to eliminate suffering and if you didn't suffer you never get over suffering and come to God and to the Bliss that you naturally are you are naturally Bliss. You are not naturally in misery. You are naturally Bliss you are not natural.
Lee in misery, so you really come to your own real nature when your guy feel eyes I Baba says you uncover what you really are. It's like an intense beautiful light that you've covered up and tsubame is to peel that off and that is not always so comfortable and it's still going on you wonder why all these things happen to you. I mean I get the pink pink boner red phone is oh I got this terrible problem.
It's you know, why everybody wants to know why and what has it got to do with the spiritual path. And why does Baba let this happen to me and everything?
But if you don't understand suffering, it's the first thing to understand on the spiritual things and many people do get tossed off. Why is that is happening? And you never lose your total Griffin. Baba is Diamond. I think Baba is kind of scares you a little bit since you paid drop your hold on my desk but his dominance everywhere. It's like air water fire earth. You can't let go there's nothing to let
Go it's there. It's always but you have to go through your little dip, you know, and
I've seen Baba actually though call someone to him and take their hand and put it not it, you know into his dominance of hold on something.
And you know just watching it was a beautiful thing and it's true that a to people I watched three people had to go through some very severe things. I think Barbara was just standing by to help them. I mean to did something when he did that and he has really stood by all of us. I can say in my own life who really big crisis it.
Wednesday he lessen the suffering. I don't think he took it away rack. Is there anything but he was there?
And that is the critical thing you feel sorry for people who have nobody have a vacuum there nothing to hold on.
So
To strengthen that hold is really the point of all these things you read always disciplines and whatnots prayers and mantras are taking Baba is a name any of it is just another way to try to get you to hold onto them. But all the time you're holding on he's holding on to you. It's kind of a fake fakery of he's got you so close. It is just incredible and
It's a wonderful thing. We're all linked. You know, I see all of you like we're all like beautiful change with changing each other and partly of holding on to Baba is holding onto other.
And reaching out to others the form a link if you form the link with one person a friend that's a strongly and then he has a language. She has a all humanity is really together and
The more it's a link of love. It's a support and I think that's the whole point of being together in Bava.
Even if you don't come to meetings or you do come to have some point of contact with another baboso, it's a link and of course in a real selfish way. I think I've always tried to make as many links as I can because When Baba comes again, how do I know? I may be Joe poop in Brooklyn. I won't know anything about anything. I mean, it'll all be blank that but maybe I've been nice to ride your bird over there.
He knows about Baba and I'm going to bump into him and Supermarket of 2001 or whatever bothers him. What year is it from?
Add seven hundred years to our date.
2680 and I'll bump into you and then my link with you are here about Baba. That's what happened to me. That's how I heard. I know I have absolutely ulterior motives for coming up here and sharing one of you might be the one might hear that problem again, and so that's one reason for all of us to be supportive of each other and I think I want to add in a little plug in here for
Your work here and especially the work of dick and others just kind of revamped their bodily and kept it afloat. I think it's wonderful that you he is Spirit going of a up a community and Baba. I don't like the word group anymore. You know, it's like rupee. No, I don't like it, but it's a community of Baba love and you feel that traveling around the world. I know going to Myrtle Beach or coming up here or
I know a Sufi meeting or going to India Australia. If you get there, it's like an instant world of relationships. I think it's very beautiful and I think on the inner planes all over little pygmies, you know and the past but some have those those links of Love Are effective really in the communities might be following the mouse over an era, but even a simple Baba of prayers doing something really and being together and
His name I really think it's very I didn't know whether he's like to open the meeting for questions or I've read a little something more. I have a bother game to play avoid the stability.
Done from what you're saying. I should you move it one know you'll get the misery whether you shouldn't you shouldn't it's I think the thing is that we're all hit, you know, if you've been on a boat in a rough sea, you know, it goes up. It goes down it goes up occurs and you're pretty tired of it gets seasick. And that's the way you feel about life. I mean, there's no Christian signs out there that is level at all down. You will get an up move.
We'll get it down and the down is a form of suffering. And so how do you face that that's the point you can't live just on the goodies. So with bother you learn to go through whatever is difficult and hang on to him and that's the thing. You may not handle it. So well, you know, we none of us do perfectly but if you hang on to Baba a through the difficult times, that's the main thing.
That's the Crux of the whole and if you want to get really into the study of why there is that suffering the look in yourself and see what you do to bring it about there. You're getting into studying your nature and laws of karma stuff and you can do a tremendous amount. That's where I do cheer on the psychologist who are trying to help us new age therapies of different types. Just try to analyze where where you know hitting
In the waves the wrong way, you know again, if you've been out in the boat, if you know how to run a boat you don't get the full but if you cut the both this way, you're going to get the brunt of the way of a lot more if you ride it the right way and that's the same way. If you understand yourself in relation to life you can have much less suffer, but you're never going to get zero suffer. No way the Mon Valley or anybody. In fact, Baba of put them through some really tough times.
Almost deliberately creating situations
But so you have two things to face the difficulties of life and that is love for Baba hanging on the bottom and then developing your understanding. It's like you're using your heart and your head was a heart.
You love Baba and that'll help you that Bababy says Love Never Fails the first discourse. I went to here with Marina and the title was love is the solution and I always like that that's
Wonderful thought and then there's also the intellect you can study human behavior your own behavior on self try to get in touch with what you're doing to bring about these sufferings because Baba and one discourse is 99% of it is what you create or in the terms of today's psychology you write your script. So if you're having a lousy time you written that script
You can go back and rewrite a better script and study that there's where you can use your intelligence. And again, that's that's what I said in this way looking at the monitor. They are that balance between The Head and the Heart. They don't don't Baba over there of love love love. I mean they do have tremendous understanding and psychology of dealing with people. I'll give you a small example. We were traveling as a group of nine people and one family.
The the family that mother and the children were bottle I was with the Baba was nevertheless. He was there with him all the way and
Pick the trip with her. Well, he got a little upset and you're over there. You know, you're Bowing in the Tomb and you're buying a barber's chair and you're bowing to the couch or this or that and it bothered him. He was a Christian and just felt that he was a hypocrite.
You know, what? Am I doing here bowing? Should I bow or shouldn't I Baba and so he kind of brought it up. It came up and he said I feel I don't know what I'm do if I'm doing the right thing to be here. I don't know. No, I feel a hypocrite. I'm a lover of Jesus, but I don't feel like bowing the barber's chair and it was very honest about it. I thought it was very good that he just came out with but I'm sure other people have the same.
Problem and Eric said the perfect thing and here's an example of someone who knows what to say at the moment the someone very disturbed because he was crying. He's a grown man crying there the north said, but you have done the right thing.
You've shown the real love for your family and being supportive and bring your family here and helping them with the trip and going everywhere with them and sharing with them and that is the real love. You don't have to bow that are that is the love that Jesus talked about in it Baba took that and you have shown this love and right away that you know, he felt tremendous. I mean what tact and saying the right thing made him feel comfortable.
Wait until is it didn't put down the fact that he didn't accept Baba as a Christ or a girl or anything showed that he was living a spiritual thing. He was doing the right thing never mind the theories and their people their full of Baba talk and Baba this and Baba that and her just as rude and crude as rocks, you know, so it's what you do, but and are saying the right
Thing and that comes not just from heart but it comes from the blending of the heart and the head he understood people and he knew how to express it you what to say.
So it's an example of the balance.
Anybody else Sheriff thought Billy go ahead. I can always under this easy for me to understand how in the next Incarnation information is down the line and they forget what you eat come to know about and have to pick it up and that's clear to me. It's easy to see that but I wanted to share your feelings or thoughts or insights about the state in between or just following the end of the end of this life.
Having been with Paula thought of him. The many millions of times that we have right after leaving the body and up until the next Incarnation seems to me overwhelmingly likely that we would spend a lot of that time in the in-between State remember involved in some way. Well, Bababy has kind of described that after death state or before birthday. Whatever nicer word. Like I said,
Better luck next time but he said his lovers come to him Monty broke that down into four kinds of things. But basically someone who has like you and I let's say we're not monell is a we will experience some measure of happiness or whatever state. I don't know spiritual.
Uplift rather than just grind through but average sold and I've had a little experience of or memory or whatever projection into that state is not always the greatest state in between births and deaths because it's Baba says you review your whole life now whether that's like bad TV show or what but
You have to go through the whole thing. That's what I said was slightly happening to me going to the to list as I was thrown back and remembering and feeling a lot of the feelings that young time uncertainties and things and kind of working on through again and imagine that's what we do is because you're only a mind you drop the body you have the subtle body. You're not a saint you not in the subtle world and you just have a mind imagine yourself put
The closet with your mind and its memory, how are you going to go through this but with Because You Love Baba and he gives you some of that Bliss and Grace to share and make it more pleasant and probably smooth out the sense Kara's a little bit for your next life. Give them a redirect.
Push forward a little more not get locked in the way so many people do they come down into a body. Well, let's say they have a sudden you're floating around in the misstep there and and suddenly you get this giant sex thought. Oh my God, you know, I can't do anything. I've got have another body and right away you have another black and that thought is so strong. You may take a very poor body in a very bad scene and got no sweat because that sense Cara was so overpowering
And you didn't think of work out a balance point to reincarnate and it's like a set pattern because I something to stick in the oven it's hard and right away you choose a certain bunch out of your sin scares. You come down. Those are the ones you have to act out in that life. You can't go back and say oh I wanted this and that I did yours. You've had it see so Baba it kind of helps you.
Refocus debtor for the next life psychologically and it's all in your head. All right ahead. But I mean although since there and he helps you to balance that and that's the greatest gift. The Bliss is nice, but it's not going to last the main thing is to redirect your energy into a new Incarnation where you can go on and not back, you know.
The police taking me there may be a lot of times don't remember involved in some fashion and bother remembering you everyone. Okay and yet it's a very moment that we support to be such a rare thing. Remember the well, Baba of course has said and Christian said that Jesus said if you think of me at that one moment that you Passover which must be, you know, like a little trapdoor in the prison hospital twist it that moment you get out and you're finished, but he said, how can you do that? Unless you've been
Remembering me all alone. And so that's the main reason for remembering him all along. And of course, they're famous examples in his own.
Their colors pipe Abad you said his name a hundred thousand times a day. Is that right sector and you figure that out on a time schedule. I mean, it's incredible. You have to be awake 24 hours or how When Baba was away the women modely. I know they'd right. Baba is name constantly because many hours to stay awake. That's right, Baba of wholeness.
So I don't know what experience you would have a Baba in that in-between State some people and their one or two Baba lovers like sanding with Drew who had heart operations. They died on the operating table and you probably heard this thing and we're 20 minutes clinically dead her story. I should happen to her twice and she goes through this classic thing both through the long tunnel.
Which is basically because of the astral Court still being there and sees the light and comes closer and it's Baba and she's just old Baba, you know and feels the blessing everything and it is no you must go back to have your family your children. You must go back until she goes back and then she's revived and the offering now they have a lot of stories like that and been several books that have collected experiences life at so imagine Baba.
Lovers actually might have an experience of meeting Baba and some way that seems tangible to them.
And I think
I think for a lot of people haven't met Baba a physically I think Baba would probably I'm just guessing would it have some experience of him as if he didn't because people do now even in dreams that have never met bother it's like he's giving them that experience of himself as a form as a human being baby at some higher Junction there few of us that you know, get it totally an abstract. Was there something but I think that's a very wonderful experience to
Feel that you meet by either on the inter plane cycle and I would say that the lovers are forever may be very close to having that experience, but then they might come into another life. They put the Veil Down and I don't know what state of religion or non religion or non Baba religion or whatever, but I'm sure you
You'll pick up another bomb a book and say hey that looks familiar.
Well, I think there's some Souls that are being born involve families. They're definitely about his pointed out a few of them are his family come back and I don't know whether you heard this story, but it's kind of cool.
This is an adarsh online. I was an Indian woman and her husband came.
I said don't have any children. Well, well, are you doing anything to prevent having to but don't you know how many people I have how many Souls I have lined up waiting and how difficult it is for me to find a Baba of family to bring them into how many hundreds of startups old baba lovers bring them into in.
Yes, Bababy is from the next time she was that was very pleased. Yeah, so I think the probably all of us will hope to be happy at born in about them. I mean, you would probably hope as long as and Baba has pointed out several people reborn and families so many more things to share an a
I'll tell you a true story that I read in this diary that was given to me recently all encapsulated. But this woman was a Baba lover from dehradun friend of the same kitchen and but she hadn't yet met baba, but she is very much about her lover and had started curtain programs and stuff and because she had never been down to amanada the Mandalay Bay.
Or anything
So she's riding her bicycle and she has an accident. She's hit by some other car or something. Anyway, she's thrown on the street and was it broken arm and everything and there's nobody around and because she's a woman that a few people come but the men won't touch her helper. They don't touch it woman and that's nice, isn't it? I don't lie in the street for her. So suddenly this beautiful car drives have been a woman.
It's out in a green sari and goes over to her and lift her up and strokes her arm and says you're going to be all right. It's all right, and I'll take you to the hospital and get it back. And so she lifts her into the car and somehow she felt the pain go away too. She had fallen unconscious and countries and she's taken to the hospital and nearest hospital and taking in a surgeon sets her arm. Oh and lady says now you must
Just tell the doctor to set it in a splint and blah blah blah. And so the doctor goes to Stephen. She's
Okay, so I dove into turns around she wants to suddenly remember she had her thank this lady so she calls and says where is it? No didn't see it there. She goes out into the yard and with a cars are and the
Guard there and says whether it was such and such a Cadillac or whatever was I know Cadillacs and you but you know something what kind of car good car and no there was no such car and then she goes back in the hospital. She asks, everybody know that was no lady in a green side and fearing himself. Meanwhile then
Finally, she gets a letter from massager and this story about this man. He says I'm sitting with Baba and bonsly Hall and Babais size are kind of rocking it, you know back in his head. He said I know that means that Baba is far away and
And that could talk to him. But anyway, he comes back I said, yeah.
Something to write a letter to this lady and to ask her these questions did a such-and-such car come as I just well the upshot is store. I can't really tell it's very dramatic.
Baba appeared as this lady in the green side. He took the form. He told them there at that moment in this man took his watch, you know, did the whole thing at the moment. She had the answer Baba described what he was doing, you know the green side the ladies of rescuing a woman with a broken up in other words God himself Baba as she took the farm driving a car wreck.
To this lady whose name is stuff.
Pawar something Car Wash things and he made this man write the whole thing down and they didn't know who this lady was. I never heard this they didn't know what he was talking about. It all seemed weird. And you know, if the letter was sent and Lady authentication want you to write back.
So, you know Bababy says he doesn't do Miracles, but talk about support. There's a wonderful Story. I mean, I haven't heard too many wild stories, but that
The Barbican appear and there's one thing that ADI said that Baba said
No matter if you take my name sincerely in a moment of need, but mostly I will help you. I have to help I will help and I'm not saying exactly right but that that one thing I've ever said I will if you take my name sincerely and there many stories that you know, dramatically show that Baba does answer this real cry for help.
You know the cow story everybody sort of a humorous one, but it does illustrate this point out in the vast empty fields of Indian. You know, that's the way it is is total nothing out there. This is Old Lady Who has
Like many peasants in India, they have their wealth because a woman doesn't have property rights. So she has her jewelry. That's all she has somebody inherits or gives a joy that's also has so that's why the peasants were silver ago. Anyway, she's all alone there and suddenly this robber comes and grabs her and grabs tries to kill her starts to kill her, you know and grab her her her jewelry. It's not a soul around anyway, and she cries mama.
Desperately cries bothers me
As this cow Comes This Cow, not even a bull a cow and buts this robber so badly that he just gave up and ran away.
Oh, you know that it was me at forecast three cats. Well, okay three better than one for the cows at it to that desperate prayer. And I know I've had some very close calls and as a Baba helpful and one of them is pretty weird. I still haven't solved it to this day and you can call me and that if it
This is in New York. And because I had bad hip at always ride on the very first seat in the back, you know, right up front by the driver.
And you know New York streets are absolutely bananas and stuff. This bus driver got mad at a cab driver and they were shouting at each other and the cab was trying to cut in front of the bus and the bus driver wasn't paying any attention to shouting at the window of the cab, you know typical New York City and I was up front and you know, the bus doesn't have the engine there. Has it somewhere else so you're right up this old man stepped off the curb, right?
Under the bus alone as a bus driver was Nikki, you know, his neck was out yelling at the Castro. You see I think he didn't stop for anything.
He didn't stop. He didn't put on his brakes nothing and this man drove right under the real life.
Baba I shouted baba baba. I just I really upset the whole bus something truthful and honest to God on the other side of the bus this man stood up and walked away and and the bus driver and the cab driver still shrieking and yelling and pulling in each other all them. I never said I still don't understand what happened. I don't know.
That's because I shared if I'm or this, I mean it was just it was a total miracle I can stay but I was only one that saw it because I was up front. You know, I songs just step right under the wheel.
I mean I think about it this mess anyway, that's so
Incredible Baba is and if you think he's not there he is. They're here closer than anything. And yeah, I just want to say one last quote from Baba from 1941.
He tells someone feel you are watched by me.
Sorry my favorite quote. This is anyway, I don't know if you like to play Silly King, but we played this on New Year's Eve. These are new year's resolution and Peter you want to pass them out and then we'll read a couple of them. If you get tired of my everybody has to read read the room, you know, we're very silly in Los Angeles. I know it's a very serious group thing.
Read a map.
So how and you want to read one, but have you read you?
Every Mason over there.
The last topic I gave down south was unbearable sense of humor a lot of barbecue. Maybe I should done that tonight. I got real serious. This is Alan's resolution for 1980.
I will try to reach out more to others. Goodbye care.
Whether it's a here Ashley, I'll stick to my diet after all the monthly never eat breakfast.
I read it wrong after all the monthly never eat breakfast later. I will try to make some old person happy after all I made you do.
I want mine to decisions. In fact, I may even ask first.
I am going to break one little habit. Just one no matter how hard it is. And which one Billy by the way, you don't have to be held to any of these.
I'll try to get you to smile.
I'm going to ask her out 110 in one weekend.
Take care of your phone's not losing it.
I'll sit down and tell my best friend why I love them.
I'll never tell a lie, and I do need.
You have to get so irritated.
It's a little thing especially me. That's the person on my right out for a cup of coffee.
Fit
A long day
Oh, I'm sorry. We didn't finish that with finish it but what are you going to do is I'm going to have anyone.
I'll think about it every day at 5:00 a.m. And or p.m.
Indian traders in love
I'll think of one good joke to tell Baba in 700 years and I'll keep it clean of nothing too much except most of our
I'm going to dress. I promise about it to be more honest, especially in human relationship.
Possible
Someone had this to me, I'll subscribe to The Awakening very good touche. Well, I wish you all the 80s the greatest. Happy New Year and all that happy login. So baba baba loves his job. So
Let's all have a little sense of humor as 1st 1980. Anyway, it's been great being with you and thank you for inviting me. It's always a wonderful thing to be here with you all.
And Jay Baba.
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